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navin · 30th July 2009, 15:37

Yes one of the best options on the Swift for the tweeters is the doors. The OVRM pods have handles to control the OVRMs on them and the dash means that the tweeters will be surface mounted leaving them at risk to an over zealous car cleaner.

jithudigitised · 4th August 2009, 13:37

i have been facing a strange issue with my speakers. my setup is
illusion electras in front and jbl 936e on rear and a kenwood 5203 2 channel amp to power the front comps.Source is a pioneer HU.Cables used are boss fake(both rca and power cable).
The problem is my speakers distorts while honking.Is this a problem regarding to the grounding of the amps or HU.

DerAlte · 4th August 2009, 13:51

Your horn relay needs to be replaced - dirty oxidized contacts. Also, perhaps you could try putting a small value capacitor (<1mf; >50V) across the horn.

General grounding problem at the amp etc. will make the "alt noise" devil and other ghostly noises (not necessarily related to honking) appear in the sound from the speakers.

pineapple_ameet · 5th August 2009, 18:09

Hi Friends
Pardon me if i'm cross posting or if a similar thread exists...
I've booked my MJD Active Punto, and want to go in for a 'decent' sounding audio machine !!!
Budgets is approx. 15K.
what should i go in for? what all options do i have?
does it make sense to purchase from the grey market?
Any particular recommendations WRT GP?
cheers
Ameet.

navin · 6th August 2009, 11:29

Fro 15K your best options are a simple HU for about 6K and 4 Coax speakers for about 9K. The size of the Coax speakers would be dependant on the mounting holes provided but a pair of 6x9s in the rear would help.

lambuhere1 · 7th August 2009, 15:43

Was going through TOI yesterday's edition of Zigwheels and there was a mention of HD Radio HU.

Does anyone have any information about the same ? And its practical usage in India ?

Exploring the thought if its worthwhile to go for it.

Thanks a lot

navin · 7th August 2009, 15:53

What is a HD Radio. HDTV I have heard of but HD Radio?

jithudigitised · 7th August 2009, 23:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by lambuhere1

Was going through TOI yesterday's edition of Zigwheels and there was a mention of HD Radio HU.

Does anyone have any information about the same ? And its practical usage in India ?

I think the HU will be useless in india since we doesnt have that facility.

abhinav.gupta88 · 7th August 2009, 23:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by pineapple_ameet

Hi Friends
Pardon me if i'm cross posting or if a similar thread exists...
I've booked my MJD Active Punto, and want to go in for a 'decent' sounding audio machine !!!
Budgets is approx. 15K.
what should i go in for? what all options do i have?
does it make sense to purchase from the grey market?
Any particular recommendations WRT GP?
cheers
Ameet.

15k.
Navin ji, won't it be better for him to go for a HU + Front + Amp and power the rear (stock) off the hu.

Something like.

HU - 6k
Front compos - 4k
Amp - A 2 channel from JBL or a 4 channel. A JBL 504 / GT5 range would do.
- 5k.
Wiring etc 1k.

I think this will be better than a front + rear off the HU combo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

What is a HD Radio. HDTV I have heard of but HD Radio?

I think it is the same as XM( Satellite radio)

navin · 8th August 2009, 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhinav.gupta88

15k.
Navin ji, won't it be better for him to go for a HU + Front + Amp and power the rear (stock) off the hu.

Something like.

HU - 6k
Front compos - 4k
Amp - A 2 channel from JBL or a 4 channel. A JBL 504 / GT5 range would do.
- 5k.
Wiring etc 1k.

I think this will be better than a front + rear off the HU combo.

Most 2 ch amps are not VFM. Think about it. You can get a 2 cha. amp for 5K and a 4ch version of the same amp for 7K.

I have not seen components for less than 5.5K (I think the JBL GT5 are about the cheapest I have seen). Also I am not sure if there are any 6K HUs that offer front pre out (most HUs that offer front pre out offer front and rear pre out). In the US you can get a HU for about $120 that has 4 pre outs but I have nto seen any in India. Most 4 pre out HU are above 7K at the recognised shops.
JVC KD-HDR20 CD receiver at Crutchfield.com
Pioneer DEH-P3100UB CD receiver at Crutchfield.com

With a budget of 22K he could get
HU (7K) with front and rear pre outs
4 ch. Amp (6K) - the Blau GT4 special sells for 6K in Mumbai
Front components (5.5K)
Rear Coax (3.5K)

As you can see there are differenet opinions for the same budget. Neither is wrong or right.

Discalimer: I have many friends (both in India and outside) for whom Audio is a livelihood. For this reason alone I cannot recommend the grey market. I have seen many of my friends who offered honest service and put in hard work to build a brand only to loose it all to the grey market operators (in India, the Middle East and even in Singapore and Thailand).

greenhorn · 8th August 2009, 10:34

my 2 ch amp ( kenwoodKAC 5203D) must be among the cheapest ones. my HU has only one pair of pre outs ( the amp has speaker level inputs tho), and my budget had only room for 2 channels. got the amp for ~3.5k. Sounds fine driving my alpine sub ( bridged output = 150W, sub rated power =200W)

jkdas · 8th August 2009, 13:13

I guess the point is get a 4 channel if you have budget. Be ready for future.

tsk13 · 8th August 2009, 21:35

After going through various threads and field reviews, even after searching the thread to avoid duplicity, more after PMing certain members (awaiting their reply) I decided to post my query.

Guys, I'm looking for a Sub and Amp setup within a limited budget of 10k-15k. I'll require its services only for 10% of playing time and that too for Punjabi beats. I'm looking forward to buying Amps from the grey market; the following have been suggested by Manan (Was very kind to provide the info):
JBL 1004
Kenwood 8401
Kenwood 8404

8401 seems to be a favourite here but availability seems to be an issue. I didn't get much information about JBL on the forum but Delhi stores are praising it.

1. Can anyone please confirm the Grey market price of JBL and Kenwood amps and tell me the best for my requirements. Further suggestions are always welcomed.

2. Moreover, I'm focussing on Bull Audio SW-12 sub. What say?

3. Wiring, I've heard Kicker is available for as low as 1k. Please confirm and any other good alternatives. Bull's basic wiring is being considered but it's too heavy for the budget.

Thanks
Tanveer Singh

navin · 8th August 2009, 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

I guess the point is get a 4 channel if you have budget. Be ready for future.

No the point is that a 2 x 50W amp costs 5K (Rs. 50 per watt) and an amp fo the same design and topology but 4 x 50w amp costs 7K (Rs. 35 per watt) the later amp is far better value for moeny.

St. Anger · 10th August 2009, 01:15

Hi,

Earlier in the day, my trusty amp, the JBL GTO 75.4 went off for a while and came back on in a few minutes. I thought nothing of it as i was out of town and was on my way back home.

Just a short distance away from home, it died out again. I parked and went on to check.

The amp lights, neither power nor any protect lamps are off. There were no sparks and no smoke/burnt smell either.

What could be the possible problem and where can i get it checked ?

Where is the official service center ?

What are their terms & conditions for carrying out repairs on out-of-warranty products?

Could someone help me out

P.s. I stay in the western suburbs of Bombay.

Cheers

30th July 2009, 15:37	#9586
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,418 Thanked: 9,994 Times	Yes one of the best options on the Swift for the tweeters is the doors. The OVRM pods have handles to control the OVRMs on them and the dash means that the tweeters will be surface mounted leaving them at risk to an over zealous car cleaner.
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4th August 2009, 13:37	#9587
jithudigitised BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Thiruvananthapuram Posts: 358 Thanked: 141 Times View My Garage	i have been facing a strange issue with my speakers. my setup is illusion electras in front and jbl 936e on rear and a kenwood 5203 2 channel amp to power the front comps.Source is a pioneer HU.Cables used are boss fake(both rca and power cable). The problem is my speakers distorts while honking.Is this a problem regarding to the grounding of the amps or HU. Last edited by jithudigitised : 4th August 2009 at 13:38.
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4th August 2009, 13:51	#9588
DerAlte Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 8,027 Thanked: 2,920 Times	Your horn relay needs to be replaced - dirty oxidized contacts. Also, perhaps you could try putting a small value capacitor (<1mf; >50V) across the horn. General grounding problem at the amp etc. will make the "alt noise" devil and other ghostly noises (not necessarily related to honking) appear in the sound from the speakers.
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5th August 2009, 18:09	#9589
pineapple_ameet BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 144 Thanked: 365 Times	ICE in Grande Punto Hi Friends Pardon me if i'm cross posting or if a similar thread exists... I've booked my MJD Active Punto, and want to go in for a 'decent' sounding audio machine !!! Budgets is approx. 15K. what should i go in for? what all options do i have? does it make sense to purchase from the grey market? Any particular recommendations WRT GP? cheers Ameet.
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6th August 2009, 11:29	#9590
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,418 Thanked: 9,994 Times	Fro 15K your best options are a simple HU for about 6K and 4 Coax speakers for about 9K. The size of the Coax speakers would be dependant on the mounting holes provided but a pair of 6x9s in the rear would help.
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lambuhere1 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: @ Driver's Seat @ Posts: 731 Thanked: 108 Times	Was going through TOI yesterday's edition of Zigwheels and there was a mention of HD Radio HU. Does anyone have any information about the same ? And its practical usage in India ? Exploring the thought if its worthwhile to go for it. Thanks a lot
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7th August 2009, 15:53	#9592
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,418 Thanked: 9,994 Times	What is a HD Radio. HDTV I have heard of but HD Radio?
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8th August 2009, 10:34	#9596
greenhorn BANNED Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,878 Thanked: 4,910 Times View My Garage	my 2 ch amp ( kenwoodKAC 5203D) must be among the cheapest ones. my HU has only one pair of pre outs ( the amp has speaker level inputs tho), and my budget had only room for 2 channels. got the amp for ~3.5k. Sounds fine driving my alpine sub ( bridged output = 150W, sub rated power =200W)
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8th August 2009, 13:13	#9597
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,685 Thanked: 1,497 Times View My Garage	I guess the point is get a 4 channel if you have budget. Be ready for future.
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8th August 2009, 21:35	#9598
tsk13 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,256 Thanked: 362 Times	After going through various threads and field reviews, even after searching the thread to avoid duplicity, more after PMing certain members (awaiting their reply) I decided to post my query. Guys, I'm looking for a Sub and Amp setup within a limited budget of 10k-15k. I'll require its services only for 10% of playing time and that too for Punjabi beats. I'm looking forward to buying Amps from the grey market; the following have been suggested by Manan (Was very kind to provide the info): JBL 1004 Kenwood 8401 Kenwood 8404 8401 seems to be a favourite here but availability seems to be an issue. I didn't get much information about JBL on the forum but Delhi stores are praising it. 1. Can anyone please confirm the Grey market price of JBL and Kenwood amps and tell me the best for my requirements. Further suggestions are always welcomed. 2. Moreover, I'm focussing on Bull Audio SW-12 sub. What say? 3. Wiring, I've heard Kicker is available for as low as 1k. Please confirm and any other good alternatives. Bull's basic wiring is being considered but it's too heavy for the budget. Thanks Tanveer Singh
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10th August 2009, 01:15	#9600
St. Anger BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 155 Thanked: 31 Times	75.4 Dead :-( Hi, Earlier in the day, my trusty amp, the JBL GTO 75.4 went off for a while and came back on in a few minutes. I thought nothing of it as i was out of town and was on my way back home. Just a short distance away from home, it died out again. I parked and went on to check. The amp lights, neither power nor any protect lamps are off. There were no sparks and no smoke/burnt smell either. What could be the possible problem and where can i get it checked ? Where is the official service center ? What are their terms & conditions for carrying out repairs on out-of-warranty products? Could someone help me out P.s. I stay in the western suburbs of Bombay. Cheers
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