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Originally Posted by airforce1 Also, I believe the longest passenger flight is flown by Boeing 777LR. Am not sure, if it is Delhi- San Francisco or the Dubai- Panama City... |
Thank you for the compliments. The longest flight, in terms of distance, would be the Dubai-Auckland EK449, operated by Emirates. The inaugural flight was with a A380, but the 777-200LR will fly that route regularly. It says a lot about the market for four-engined aircrafts when 15 out of the top 20 longest flights are operated by a 777.
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Originally Posted by Jeroen My understanding is that everybody (?) uses ICAO step climb definition and your FMC would be set up accordingly. (FMC PERF INIT page). That would mean you would get 2000ft increments up to FL290 and 4000ft increments above FL290. On a fully loaded 777 what would be your initial cruise altitude? I would think it would be around FL290. (it is on a 744). So most of your step climbs would be 4000ft increments or not?
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No, RVSM(Reduced Vertical Separation Minima) is now implemented almost in the whole world between FL290 and FL410. Under RVSM rules, the vertical separation between two aircrafts has been reduced to 1000 ft on opposite course on the same airway. Therefore, the next available level in your direction is 2000 ft. Above FL410, the vertical separation has to be a minimum of 2000 ft, for which the next available level will be 4000 ft.
The default step size in the 777 FMC is RVSM. But it accepts any of the following values:
- 0 : no step climb
- RVSM: steps every 2000ft
- ICAO: steps every 4000ft
- Manual entry (1000...): steps computed on the value entered.
We use RVSM step size to perform step climbs most of the time. 2000 ft step size is always more economical than 4000 ft. To perform a step climb with the 777, you have to set the new altitude on the MCP, wait for the indication "Now" and then press the Alt intervene button on the MCP. The AP will then switch to VNAV SPD and THR REF and climb to the new altitude.
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Originally Posted by sriramr9 Few more questions from my end :
1. With so much automation is it still possible to fly the airplane manually by overriding auto pilot and shutting it off. Will it not give the pilots the real world experience to handle during crisis instead of synthetic feel?
2. Between joystick and yolk which is a more fool proof way of medium in terms of safety . I hear joystick handle independently does it not give birth to irrational inputs by both officers at same time ?
3' How does a aircraft successfully ground the residual voltage after a lightning strike despite no contact with earth?
4. In case of AF447 during violent descent did the deicing on pitot not happen?? In case of successful de icing of pitots theoretically the systems should resume back right as air speed will be available ?? |
1. Yes, of course it is possible. And most pilots prefer hand flying the aircraft during landing. But the rising levels of automation in the cockpit has raised a lot of questions regarding our abilities to hand fly the aircraft. And as a pilot, I am worried.
Consider this. I have flown the 777 for around 500 hrs in the last 5 months or so. Out of those 500, I have actually hand flown the aircraft only for about 30 hrs or less. The rest of the time, the computer was flying. So, yes the increasing reliance on automation is a growing concern among industry experts. Simulator exercises have shown that pilots who typically fly with automation can make errors when confronted with an unexpected event or transitioning to manual flying. Pilots these days have a lot of flight hours under their belt, but they are low quality, so to speak. A lot of what’s happening is hidden from view from the pilots. When the airplane starts doing something that is unexpected and the pilot says ‘Hey, what’s it doing now?’—and believe me that’s a very very standard comment in cockpits today.
2. . Both the yoke and the side-stick are safe, if operated with proper knowledge of their behavior. The operation of two side-sticks simultaneously is known as DUAL-INPUT. It's one of the first things taught to Airbus drivers. The laws regulating DUAL INPUT are as follows.
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• Normal operation : Captain and First Officer inputs are algebraically summed. But the total output is limited to the maximum output that one side stick can produce.
• Each side-stick has a priority button. This button dis-engages the autopilot and provides full control to that side-stick.
• If the priority button is held pressed, the other side-stick inputs are ignored.
• If a pilot presses and HOLDS the button for more than 40 seconds, latches the priority condition to that stick. Meaning the other side-stick's inputs are ignored even if the priority button is released.
• In case the other pilot wants control of his side-stick, he presses the priority button on his deactivated sidestick. Then it's active again. Last pilot who depressed and holds take-over button has priority; other pilot's inputs ignored.
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I may be wrong though since I have zero experience with Airbuses. This is what I know from fellow pilots. RVD and coolboy007 will confirm.
3. Typically, a lightning bolt will hit an extremity, such as a wing tip, or the nose, and the current will travel through the aeroplane’s metal shell before leaving from another point – the tail, for example. The hull of the plane forms a Faraday cage. A Faraday cage is a hollow shell made of conducting material. A strong electric field outside the cage will force the charge in the material of the cage to redistribute itself, but the interior space inside the cage remains uncharged.
4. AF447's crash was a very unfortunate event brought about a lot of attention to what I said about the first point. Let me explain the crash to you first.
When the pitot pressure probe on the outside of the plane iced over, the airspeed indications became unreliable. The computer could no longer tell how fast the plane was going, and the autopilot disengaged.
The fly-by-wire system switched to alternate law. First off, the crew failed to realize that the FBW had switched to Alternate law, which does not provide stall protection. Second, the crew were disoriented and didn't realize that they were stalling until the last minutes.
I believe that the autopilot cannot engage automatically when the airspeed becomes reliable. Anyway, by that time, both the pilots had already pressed the priority button & dis-engaged the autopilot.
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Originally Posted by SPIKE ARRESTOR Could you please tell me how is the V1 speed calculated, and any such important calculations you do before / during the flight ? As a Pilot, what are your biggest fears (if any), I've seen a lot of air crash investigation documentaries, so sometimes I've wet pants while I'm flying . I know the probability is too low though, but just want to know your thoughts on this. |
Thanks a lot for the compliments. V1, V2 and all other speeds are calculated by the FMC(Flight Management Computer) in the 777. Most of the other calculations are also done by the FMC. There are very few things left for us to actually do these days.
This is the take-off page of the FMC which calculates the various speeds. You enter the flaps setting(mostly 5 for 777), CG% and the FMC does the rest.
This is the completed page with the speeds calculated.
As for my worst fear, a serious inflight medical emergencies ranks the highest. Medical emergencies can present an immediate life and death situation and decisions. If you are only talking about technical difficulties, the list for me is probably as follows:
- Probe Icing
- Depressurization
- Dual Engine Failure
- Thunderstorms