The Heavy Trucks thread

smashnerd · 19th February 2011, 22:59

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Originally Posted by Transsenger

After bharat benz, it seems bharat volvo! One of the Volvo customer in Kerala, got his new Leyland tractor built a look like Volvo!

That AL looks huge compared to the Volvo! Why is that?

jeepster · 20th February 2011, 22:57

spotted this TATA PRIMA truck today near Barshi on SH77 going towards NH211 .

julupani · 21st February 2011, 07:55

Surprised to see a Prima 4928S already getting used as a puller, with just 280hp and about a 1000nm of torque. I didnt expect to see these till atleast 1500+nm torque models were available.

Guess the lower prices still make them good enough buys.

Ashley2 · 21st February 2011, 08:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by julupani

Surprised to see a Prima 4928S already getting used as a puller, with just 280hp and about a 1000nm of torque. I didnt expect to see these till atleast 1500+nm torque models were available.

There are even 210HP ALs and 230 HP TMLs been used as pullers.
This should be no surprise!

metal2corp · 21st February 2011, 15:38

Just for info, a peek into mahindra navistar trucks...The trucks are really amazing and are doing quite well since they started being sold in Nov....Giving the TATA s and Leylands a run for their money I would say...

Stratos · 21st February 2011, 17:00

Spotted this massive Volvo FM400 Puller on Mumbai - Ahmedabad highway. Nice color too!

manishalive · 21st February 2011, 17:18

And guess what they have done all of the engineering in House with support from Navistar

. Many months ago CV Magazine (commercial Vehicle) ran a cover feature story on the Engineering of the Navistar trucks.

Ashley2 · 26th February 2011, 23:33

The Heavy Trucks thread-p190211_13.28.jpg

Took this foto last week. Crazy!

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 26th February 2011, 23:53

Ashley - what exactly is the "turbo ...." logo on extreme right of the pic mean? (Sale line as "volvo" thing). Is that another joke?

pamiboy · 27th February 2011, 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by metal2corp

Just for info, a peek into mahindra navistar trucks...The trucks are really amazing and are doing quite well since they started being sold in Nov....Giving the TATA s and Leylands a run for their money I would say...

Who designed the front end of these vehicles? Why can't they hire someone who knows how to do his job?

prmd_cochin · 28th February 2011, 12:58

Kamaz trucks spotted in Kochi.

DWind · 28th February 2011, 13:17

^^^
Since the front 2 axles are steerable, does it not cause too much of problem while turning as the wheelbase between the 2nd and the third axle is very less (almost the same as a Nano)

silversteed · 28th February 2011, 15:43

I've seen many terms regarding the cabins on offer across different models from all manufacturers:

Suspended
Fully suspended
Tiltable
Tiltable with hydraulic assist
Floating
Day cab/Night cab

What exactly do they mean by these things, and what are the advantages of each of these, for the owner/crew?

(I guess Day cab means the one without provision for a berth/bench for someone to sleep)

julupani · 28th February 2011, 16:15

Let me give this a go. I am not sure of all though, but it is to the best of my knowledge.

Suspended Cab: The bac is rigidly mounted at the front from where it tilts, but has some suspension at the rear so as to provide a bit of comfort. Either a single set of centrally mounted leaf-springs with a pair of shock absorbers, or a set of coil springs with shocks are common. I think the standard newer generation tractors and factury manufactured cabs in /indian trucks use the first method. I am sure about Tata, but not too sure about the others. I think the Tata Primas and ALL U-trucks use coil springs.

Fully-Suspended Cabs: Suspension at both ends.

Tiltable: I think this is self explanatory. Almost all fully forward designs offer a tiltable cab to allow for easy access to the engine and transmisson.

Tiltable with Hydraulic assist: Tilt mechanism is operated by hydraulics, by generally some sort of lever or switch outside the cabin.

Floating Cab: This is I think a cab which is suspended using air suspension. Many a times such cabs have flat floors too. Though not very common, I think Renault have a lot of models with such cabs.

Day/Night Cab: Basically as you said, one with sleeping berth and one without. Some cabs have only one sleeping berth while others have two. Sleeper cabs many a times have a lot of other facilities too, like a small refrigerator, separate AC vents and controls, a DVD player, sometimes with satellite TV receivers, small cupboards etc to enable the driver to pretty much live out of the cab.

All these features basically mean that a driver can use the truck more easily, be more comfortable while doing so. This means he can operate the truck for longer periods of time and more safely.

This is what trucks like the Prima are there for. The idea is even though the truck is a lot more costly, it can do a lot more work. In Europe truck drivers drive for 12-14hours a day covering 500+miles per day, ie 800kms. Our normal trucks cover barely half of that on a good day, while driving in dangerous conditions, having to battle through a lot of physical exhaustion.

silversteed · 28th February 2011, 17:19

julupani, thank you for that informative post.

20th February 2011, 22:57	#452
jeepster Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: MH24 aka LATUR Posts: 1,699 Thanked: 1,937 Times View My Garage	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread spotted this TATA PRIMA truck today near Barshi on SH77 going towards NH211 . Last edited by jeepster : 20th February 2011 at 23:04.
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21st February 2011, 07:55	#453
julupani Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bhubaneswar Posts: 1,762 Thanked: 537 Times	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread Surprised to see a Prima 4928S already getting used as a puller, with just 280hp and about a 1000nm of torque. I didnt expect to see these till atleast 1500+nm torque models were available. Guess the lower prices still make them good enough buys.
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21st February 2011, 15:38	#455
metal2corp Newbie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 3 Thanked: 0 Times	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread Just for info, a peek into mahindra navistar trucks...The trucks are really amazing and are doing quite well since they started being sold in Nov....Giving the TATA s and Leylands a run for their money I would say... Attached Thumbnails
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21st February 2011, 17:00	#456
Stratos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,609 Thanked: 1,451 Times View My Garage	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread Spotted this massive Volvo FM400 Puller on Mumbai - Ahmedabad highway. Nice color too!
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21st February 2011, 17:18	#457
manishalive Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,514 Thanked: 1,082 Times	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread And guess what they have done all of the engineering in House with support from Navistar . Many months ago CV Magazine (commercial Vehicle) ran a cover feature story on the Engineering of the Navistar trucks.
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26th February 2011, 23:33	#458
Ashley2 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NH7 Posts: 2,115 Thanked: 1,524 Times View My Garage	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread Took this foto last week. Crazy!
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26th February 2011, 23:53	#459
BaCkSeAtDrIVeR BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kochi Posts: 2,522 Thanked: 752 Times	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread Ashley - what exactly is the "turbo ...." logo on extreme right of the pic mean? (Sale line as "volvo" thing). Is that another joke?
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28th February 2011, 12:58	#461
prmd_cochin BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cochin Posts: 575 Thanked: 85 Times View My Garage	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread Kamaz trucks spotted in Kochi. Attached Thumbnails
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28th February 2011, 13:17	#462
DWind BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singara Chennai Posts: 804 Thanked: 238 Times View My Garage	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread ^^^ Since the front 2 axles are steerable, does it not cause too much of problem while turning as the wheelbase between the 2nd and the third axle is very less (almost the same as a Nano)
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28th February 2011, 15:43	#463
silversteed Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Electri-City Posts: 2,337 Thanked: 2,196 Times	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread I've seen many terms regarding the cabins on offer across different models from all manufacturers: Suspended Fully suspended Tiltable Tiltable with hydraulic assist Floating Day cab/Night cab What exactly do they mean by these things, and what are the advantages of each of these, for the owner/crew? (I guess Day cab means the one without provision for a berth/bench for someone to sleep)
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28th February 2011, 16:15	#464
julupani Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bhubaneswar Posts: 1,762 Thanked: 537 Times	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread Let me give this a go. I am not sure of all though, but it is to the best of my knowledge. Suspended Cab: The bac is rigidly mounted at the front from where it tilts, but has some suspension at the rear so as to provide a bit of comfort. Either a single set of centrally mounted leaf-springs with a pair of shock absorbers, or a set of coil springs with shocks are common. I think the standard newer generation tractors and factury manufactured cabs in /indian trucks use the first method. I am sure about Tata, but not too sure about the others. I think the Tata Primas and ALL U-trucks use coil springs. Fully-Suspended Cabs: Suspension at both ends. Tiltable: I think this is self explanatory. Almost all fully forward designs offer a tiltable cab to allow for easy access to the engine and transmisson. Tiltable with Hydraulic assist: Tilt mechanism is operated by hydraulics, by generally some sort of lever or switch outside the cabin. Floating Cab: This is I think a cab which is suspended using air suspension. Many a times such cabs have flat floors too. Though not very common, I think Renault have a lot of models with such cabs. Day/Night Cab: Basically as you said, one with sleeping berth and one without. Some cabs have only one sleeping berth while others have two. Sleeper cabs many a times have a lot of other facilities too, like a small refrigerator, separate AC vents and controls, a DVD player, sometimes with satellite TV receivers, small cupboards etc to enable the driver to pretty much live out of the cab. All these features basically mean that a driver can use the truck more easily, be more comfortable while doing so. This means he can operate the truck for longer periods of time and more safely. This is what trucks like the Prima are there for. The idea is even though the truck is a lot more costly, it can do a lot more work. In Europe truck drivers drive for 12-14hours a day covering 500+miles per day, ie 800kms. Our normal trucks cover barely half of that on a good day, while driving in dangerous conditions, having to battle through a lot of physical exhaustion.
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28th February 2011, 17:19	#465
silversteed Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Electri-City Posts: 2,337 Thanked: 2,196 Times	Re: The Heavy Trucks thread julupani, thank you for that informative post.
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