[Ashley2]

[quote=julupani;2314542]Good to see the innovativeness and entrepreneurial skill of the trailor manufacturers.
Satarc is making these trailors for years

Originally Posted by julupani

Just to be sure, it is a 2 wheel axle, isn't it??

This is a regular 3 axle trailor with each axle having inner and outer set of tyres.

[Transsenger]

Originally Posted by julupani

The Tata LPT3118c's lift axle is not a steerable axle at all.

Its not correct! The TML 3118LPT has a self steered lift axle just ahead of the drive axle. It is even fitted with a steering damper. Check out if possible!

[julupani]

Self steered is not the same as a standard steerable axle. This axle only helps a bit in steering, while proper twin steerable axles have a lot tighter turning radius. Also this axle will need to be lifted when reversing.This is very different from the twin steerable axles that are employed for fixed axles. These kind of steering are called passive steering mechanism, and are not traditionally called steered axles.

[Mr.Boss]

Originally Posted by Mr.Boss

.......2 Wheel lift axles are used in TATA 3118 where that is self steered axle.......

Originally Posted by julupani

The Tata LPT3118c's lift axle is not a steerable axle at all. But over there the total rear axle's load bearing is 25ton and not 24ton. 25 tons on the rear three axles, with a 6ton front axle gives a total of 31tones

So in this case, will it also be a 25ton trailor with a 16ton tractor will allow a 41ton GVW???

3x8 = 24T + 16T Tractor horse = 40T GVW

Originally Posted by Ashley2

This is a regular 3 axle trailor with each axle having inner and outer set of tyres.

Originally Posted by Transsenger

Its not correct! The TML 3118LPT has a self steered lift axle just ahead of the drive axle. It is even fitted with a steering damper. Check out if possible!

Originally Posted by julupani

Self steered is not the same as a standard steerable axle. This axle only helps a bit in steering, while proper twin steerable axles have a lot tighter turning radius. Also this axle will need to be lifted when reversing.This is very different from the twin steerable axles that are employed for fixed axles. These kind of steering are called passive steering mechanism, and are not traditionally called steered axles.

Buddy, please note that I haven't mentioned them as 'steered axles'. Clearly written 'self steered axles' and I agree it is called as passive steering mechanism.

[julupani]

@Mr.Boss
Well, my mistake. I guess, I missed that "self" part. Actually this is the first time I have seen anyone using the "self steered" terminology, I had always seen "passive steering" being used, which probably caused me to make that mistake.

Anyway, confusion cleared up.

[julupani]

Some interesting spottings today morning, unfortunately had forgotten my cell phone at home, thus no pics.

1. 25 Tata LPT 3118c chassis moving towards Chennai on NH5. This model is becoming more and more common by the day.
2. 11 Tata LPS 4018 Tip-trailors. All belonged to ARSS Infrastructure, and were numbered. The highest I saw was 108. A bit surprised to see tip trailors getting used for road construction work.
3. A gleaming blue colored U4023, pulling a container.

[silversteed]

^^^ Nice...

On my recent trip on the NH-47, I spotted 4-5 U4023s, with trailers, a handful of LPT3118Cs, an almost equal number of AL3118s (or is it 3116?) - mostly AP registered. And to top it all, 3 FM7s being used for construction, along with U-2523s.

Yesterday I spotted a TM tractor pulling a car-carrier type trailer (for Hyundai). Guess it was an EX2 series.

[julupani]

I think for ALL it is a 3121 rather than a 3118. Dont get to see too many of those though, not many of them coming up towards the east. Unlike the Tata 3118s, which I see a lot, as all the 3118s headed for south India use the NH5 passing through my city.

[amit V8]

Originally Posted by D33-PAC

Spotted this ancient Ashok-Leyland-like "thing" at a construction site in Orissa.

this one and the one posted by me looks similar....says Comet.

Old Model Vehicles..Ashok Leyland Comet Truck | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

[julupani]

^^
Surprisingly, another really really old Orissa registered Ashok Leyland. Though here too the whole front seems to have been redone. So cant really trust any of the model markings.

Also the previous pic was that of a tractor, while this is a standard 2axle truck.

When and where did you take that shot??

[silversteed]

Originally Posted by julupani

I think for ALL it is a 3121 rather than a 3118. Dont get to see too many of those though, not many of them coming up towards the east. Unlike the Tata 3118s, which I see a lot, as all the 3118s headed for south India use the NH5 passing through my city.

AL has 3116, 3118 and 3123. There's also a U3123 8x4 tipper in the 31T segment.

Originally Posted by amit V8

this one and the one posted by me looks similar....says Comet.

Old Model Vehicles..Ashok Leyland Comet Truck | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

This one is a comet, while the other one could be a Taurus. IIRC, AshLey had Cheetah and Viking bus chassis, and Comet and Taurus truck chassis.

[julupani]

Is the ALL 3118 also Cummins powered?? If so, I dont think there will be too many of those as they would have to source the engines from Tata Cummins, which supplies almost all its engines to Tata itself.

Also I am sure I have seen Leylands with 3121 markings. Have they been stopped??

Now that you mentioned a 31ton tipper, I havent yet spotted one of those U3123s, only the U2523s. Though I have spotted a few 3128K Primas in Orissa.

[binaiks]

Spotted this very old Fargo truck yesterday. It is still running around carrying parcels!! Isn't there a restriction on age of commercial vehicles??

This one is a 1972-make, according to the RC entry.

[silversteed]

Originally Posted by julupani

Is the ALL 3118 also Cummins powered?? If so, I dont think there will be too many of those as they would have to source the engines from Tata Cummins, which supplies almost all its engines to Tata itself.

Also I am sure I have seen Leylands with 3121 markings. Have they been stopped??

Now that you mentioned a 31ton tipper, I havent yet spotted one of those U3123s, only the U2523s. Though I have spotted a few 3128K Primas in Orissa.

AL3118 is powered by an H series engine, according to the website.

Regarding 3121, maybe they've stopped them recently, as I too remember seeing them in the website, though not in person. I picked up the info from their website. Many things are missing, and a few things have come up anew in their site.

I've seen quite a few U2523s being used for construction and road laying work

[Ashley2]

Originally Posted by silversteed

AL3118 is powered by an H series engine, according to the website.

AL does not have any alliance with Cummins for any engines, except for very few/stranger models. AL's manufacturing technology is its own USP.

Originally Posted by silversteed

Regarding 3121, maybe they've stopped them recently, as I too remember seeing them in the website, though not in person.

Post BS III AL has 120,160,180,230Hp engine options primarily.
210HP is phased out!