Windows Vista Discussion Thread

Samurai · 8th April 2009, 15:45

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Originally Posted by anandtheleo

Agree with you on Vista. From the day I got the hands on this laptop, the OS has been a pain(OS crashing multiple times, explorer freezing, sound driver not working.......etc), have used windows 95, 96, ME, XP and now Vista. All the rest gave reasonable control to the end-user and were not too complicated, but Vista changed all that.

In my company, 95% of the PCs are on Vista since a year, not a single crash until now. All these are used for C++/C# system software development, running compilers, debuggers, databases, etc.

anandtheleo · 8th April 2009, 16:48

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Originally Posted by Samurai

In my company, 95% of the PCs are on Vista since a year, not a single crash until now. All these are used for C++/C# system software development, running compilers, debuggers, databases, etc.

Then just my luck then, what type of Vista are they, most probably they are not Vista home premium which I use, since it is a corporate environment.

Samurai · 8th April 2009, 18:51

Obviously it is Vista Business. And 4 of those are VMs running on Virtualization environment. I have Vista Ultimate in my home PC where I use Photoshop CS4. My notebook runs Vista Home premium, but I use this machine very rarely.

NetfreakBombay · 8th April 2009, 19:32

I don't find any edition of Vista to me less stable then XP.

Vista is not bad, its just not "good enough" to pay for an upgrade.

Samurai · 8th April 2009, 20:10

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Originally Posted by NetfreakBombay

Vista is not bad, its just not "good enough" to pay for an upgrade.

Exactly, and it is hungry. Give it a dual-core processor and 2GB memory, it will be happy.

anandtheleo · 8th April 2009, 20:47

I do agree some features of Vista are good, the sleep mode and the quick wake-up is one feature I loved. Mine is a dual core with 4 GB ram and it had pretty decent performance while it worked.

NetfreakBombay · 8th April 2009, 22:05

I like some of "Under the Hood" enhancements.

Like NTFS now supports Symlinks better then XP or Server 2003, Writing Drivers is easier, it performs better at peak usage (near 98% CPU) and Powershell is better then cmd.exe shell in XP.

But none of these matter to average user.

anandtheleo · 9th April 2009, 13:24

The problem was diagnosed as RAM problem, so Google was right about this.

Since the laptop is still in warranty, have requested for a replacement. But it seems for International warranty it would take 3 weeks to get an replacement. But anyways I have 1 2GB RAM working and took back the laptop and the faulty RAM. Now have to wait for the replacement. C drive was fully formatted and have to re-install programs I had installed.

First thing to install would be a good back-up program, what would you guys recommend for this. Should run in the background & HDD space is not a constraint.

given2fly · 10th April 2009, 03:16

Anand, Why did they format your disk when it was an issue with RAM. That was such a wow technical support. That idiot needs to be shot to format a working system for a hardware.

Paging Errors of any sort are almost always some type of Hardware/BIOS issue unless it's your harddisk which hosts the page file, has some bad sectors. Didn't see your query before.

anandtheleo · 10th April 2009, 07:05

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Originally Posted by given2fly

Anand, Why did they format your disk when it was an issue with RAM. That was such a wow technical support. That idiot needs to be shot to format a working system for a hardware.

Paging Errors of any sort are almost always some type of Hardware/BIOS issue unless it's your harddisk which hosts the page file, has some bad sectors. Didn't see your query before.

What you say is true, Since I had pointed out it could be a RAM problem they could have checked by removing one RAM at a time to check the defective one. But I guess they were playing safe and formatted the whole thing.

From my interaction with them one thing I learnt of is that the first course of action for them is to restore factory reset and check if the problem persists.

That is the reason the first day I refused to give the laptop to them and took a backup of all my data.

kpbhatt · 10th April 2009, 12:35

I had a couple of softwares downloaded from my office vpn to be used for official purposes. I have atleast 5 such folders on my external hdd running with my windows vista home premium. I keep getting this stupid error message due to which i am unable to explore or install any of the applications. I tried running chkdsk to clear it however the folder properties still shows it as read only Can anyone point out whats wrong and what can i do to revert it ?

anupmathur · 10th April 2009, 13:14

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Originally Posted by kpbhatt

I tried running chkdsk to clear it however the folder properties still shows it as read only Can anyone point out whats wrong and what can i do to revert it ?

Seems to be corrupted directories.
Please copy the original files again and try.

kpbhatt · 10th April 2009, 13:50

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Originally Posted by anupmathur

Seems to be corrupted directories.
Please copy the original files again and try.

hi Anup -- tried that twice. trouble is my office laptop is on XP and the home one on vista -- could that be the reason

anupmathur · 10th April 2009, 14:27

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Originally Posted by kpbhatt

hi Anup -- tried that twice. trouble is my office laptop is on XP and the home one on vista -- could that be the reason

I doubt very much. Both using NTFS.
Could you try zipping the files on your office machine and copying the zipped one to your HDD?
Frankly, I haven't switched to Vista the failure, so I'm just taking shots in the dark!

kpbhatt · 10th April 2009, 23:28

got the problem resolved -- the apps given by office folks were specifically for XP -- would not work on Vista -- so that solves the issue i had with the folders and the installation not happening for them

8th April 2009, 18:51	#588
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,997 Thanked: 49,914 Times View My Garage	Obviously it is Vista Business. And 4 of those are VMs running on Virtualization environment. I have Vista Ultimate in my home PC where I use Photoshop CS4. My notebook runs Vista Home premium, but I use this machine very rarely.
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NetfreakBombay Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,481 Thanked: 1,130 Times	I don't find any edition of Vista to me less stable then XP. Vista is not bad, its just not "good enough" to pay for an upgrade.
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anandtheleo BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 423 Thanked: 455 Times View My Garage	I do agree some features of Vista are good, the sleep mode and the quick wake-up is one feature I loved. Mine is a dual core with 4 GB ram and it had pretty decent performance while it worked.
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8th April 2009, 22:05	#592
NetfreakBombay Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,481 Thanked: 1,130 Times	I like some of "Under the Hood" enhancements. Like NTFS now supports Symlinks better then XP or Server 2003, Writing Drivers is easier, it performs better at peak usage (near 98% CPU) and Powershell is better then cmd.exe shell in XP. But none of these matter to average user.
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9th April 2009, 13:24	#593
anandtheleo BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 423 Thanked: 455 Times View My Garage	The problem was diagnosed as RAM problem, so Google was right about this. Since the laptop is still in warranty, have requested for a replacement. But it seems for International warranty it would take 3 weeks to get an replacement. But anyways I have 1 2GB RAM working and took back the laptop and the faulty RAM. Now have to wait for the replacement. C drive was fully formatted and have to re-install programs I had installed. First thing to install would be a good back-up program, what would you guys recommend for this. Should run in the background & HDD space is not a constraint.
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10th April 2009, 03:16	#594
given2fly BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 214 Thanked: 0 Times	Anand, Why did they format your disk when it was an issue with RAM. That was such a wow technical support. That idiot needs to be shot to format a working system for a hardware. Paging Errors of any sort are almost always some type of Hardware/BIOS issue unless it's your harddisk which hosts the page file, has some bad sectors. Didn't see your query before.
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kpbhatt BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 349 Thanked: 35 Times View My Garage	I had a couple of softwares downloaded from my office vpn to be used for official purposes. I have atleast 5 such folders on my external hdd running with my windows vista home premium. I keep getting this stupid error message due to which i am unable to explore or install any of the applications. I tried running chkdsk to clear it however the folder properties still shows it as read only Can anyone point out whats wrong and what can i do to revert it ? Attached Thumbnails
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10th April 2009, 23:28	#600
kpbhatt BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 349 Thanked: 35 Times View My Garage	got the problem resolved -- the apps given by office folks were specifically for XP -- would not work on Vista -- so that solves the issue i had with the folders and the installation not happening for them
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