[adya33]

Originally Posted by JayD

Isn't opera a free software?

There are two versions of Opera web browser for mobile.
There is paid version and then there is Opera mini which is free version.

Opera mobile (paid version) shares its code with desktop client while Opera mini is completely different.
For Opera mobile webpages are processed on Opera servers to optimise them for mobile where as Opera mobile processes and displays web pages on mobile directly.

[satish_appasani]

Two days back i lost my Imate Jasjat at my office. I forgot it in the rest room and not found it again after 20 minutes. I have become so much dependant on it and feeling like i have become crippled. I have the IMEI number and gave it to police but not sure if they will ever track the number.

Lesson learnt, when there is a high risk of loosing expensive gadgets (ex. phones), don't spend the money on them. Planning to get back where i started my PDA journey and planning to buy a seperate phone and PDA. Atleast latest generation devices can communicate better between them compared to 2 or 3 years ago. Also i found Pocket PC with phone are more unstable that dedicated Pocket PC PDA.

[mobike008]

Originally Posted by satish_appasani

Two days back i lost my Imate Jasjat at my office. I forgot it in the rest room and not found it again after 20 minutes.

Sorry to know about it Satish, i would say forgetfulness is the biggest culprit of us losing phones and second comes these guys who flick them

Hopefully if the police are diligent in their work, you may get it back soon

[satish_appasani]

As I said, i am returning to roots and planning to buy a seperate PDA and mobile phone.

For PDA, I am planning on HP IPaq 111.
Buy HP iPAQ 111 Classic Handheld(FA979AA#ABA) direct from the HP Home & Home Office Store

I am confused about the phone. I don't want want any Hi-fi features in my phone like music player and camera. My budget is less than 10,000.

My requirement are:
Small phone to fit in my trowser pocket, preferably flip model.
Stable and robust. Should be able to survive few falls.
Good keypad with large buttons.
Decent features in functions like call history and contacts.
Bluetooth to connect to PDA and also for handsfree.

[Akshay1234]

you should be able to get an n72 in that budget.

[satish_appasani]

I bought the Nokia 6233. It is the new one with wine color and looks classy.

[phamilyman]

Originally Posted by satish_appasani

My requirement are:
Small phone to fit in my trowser pocket, preferably flip model.
Stable and robust. Should be able to survive few falls.
Good keypad with large buttons.
Decent features in functions like call history and contacts.
Bluetooth to connect to PDA and also for handsfree.

Samsung E250 - 5k, does everything above - smart silver slider phone.
SE W810i - 9600, super 2mp cam, candy bar, super good otherwise.

Originally Posted by satish_appasani
My requirement are:
Small phone to fit in my trowser pocket, preferably flip model.
Stable and robust. Should be able to survive few falls.
Good keypad with large buttons.
Decent features in functions like call history and contacts.
Bluetooth to connect to PDA and also for handsfree.

you should go for the Nokia E50, you'll get all the business features in this like 3G, EDGE, GPRS, Wi-Fi, USB, Bluetooth, Infrared & additional features like Camera (1.3 MP, 1280 x 960 pixels), MP3/AAC/video player, Document viewer, Blackberry connectivity, PIM including calendar, to-do list..

it comes around Rs.8300

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If you can spent few more than you should go for Nokia E62
it has all the same features like E50 & its looks like a Blackberry.

It comes around Rs. 9300

[satish_appasani]

Guys, Thank you very much for the suggestions. I already went ahead and bought the Nokia 6233. I got it for 6000 after exchanging an old phone. It fits my requirements well except for flip. Looks very classy and the best looking phone i ever owned.

[hydrashok]

I picked-up an E61i for my Dad yesterday for 16,300/-. Silver+Mocha colour.






I got a complimentary SanDisk 2GB microSD for the E61i (it supports upto 2GB microSD) AND a DC-4 car charger as part of the deal. (I love my dealer).

Really nice phone. I've played with 2-3 of these that my friends are using, but its different when you're playing with one for yourself (almost), right?

The phone is as snappy with the 2GB card, as it is with the 512MB card it comes with.

Great connectivity with Bluetooth, IR, WiFi, 3G, EDGE. Big 320x240 display with 16 million colors.

The pack comes with a mono (single-bud) hands-free. That is bad. Since all Symbian S60 V3 devices support stereo, they should have included a stereo hands-free. And the device has a pop-port, and not a 2.5mm socket. (Nokia would never give us a 3.5mm socket, or they wouldn't be able to sell an adapter to us, right?). I could have at least given my Dad the one that came with my E90 otherwise (it has a 2.5 mm jack).

I've installed the usual SW so far:
- Mobipocket Ebook Reader
- WorldMate
- Opera Mini4 Beta3
- Calcium

I won't be installing a lot of stuff anyway as my Dad is not too TechSavvy. He needs a voice-notes app, so I'll probably be buying the VitoNotes SW. The app that comes preinstalled (as part of the Symbian SW) is way too basic.

I'll also probably get a good music-player app (not decided what/which yet) because my Dad listens to a lot of audio-books on a daily basis.

I didn't install DivX player because it doesn't yet use HW-based acceleration. The built-in RealPlayer makes good use of the processor, and the difference really shows. DivX player is still pixelated and jerky. And loses audio-video sync quite often. No such issues with the built-in RealPlayer playing MP4 video.

I ripped a 1 hour 40 minutes movie at 320x240 res; 500kbps (video) and 128kbps MP3 CBR (audio) to MP4 using WinMENC. The file size was 505MB, and it played really well. No jerking or audio sync problems. Smooth playback. Can't judge the quality over earphones as I don't have a pop-port based stereo earphone set with me now. Will get one (or a pop-port to 3.5mm adapter) today.

Browsing is really good (but nowhere as good as on the E90). I prefer Opera Mini4 B3 to the built-in browser, but I'll make up my mind as I test-drive it today and tomorrow, before I hand it over to Dad.

I really like the keypad:
- All keys are exactly where I expect them to be, and there's a "shift" button on the left as well as to the right.
- The D-Pad is good (I prefer it to the old joystick).
- There's a dedicated Email & Contacts button. (I wish the Email button could have been reconfigured to make it open the SMS Inbox).
- There's a single user-configurable button that you can set to open any app you want (all Symbian phones have this now).
- The Keys are backlit well (white glow), but they are not too readable at angles).
- The individual keys look closely set, but the way each key is raised helps us type pretty well, without pressing another key also at the same time. Very good tactile feel. With just a few hours, I'm already pretty fast with the keyboard.

The phone is very well built with an aluminum back-plate that grips the rest of the body very firmly. This phone is better built than the E90 I use. NO creaking anywhere.

The battery is the best in the business from Nokia (1500mAH) and should last and last and last.

I really wish the display could have been VGA (640x480) instead of the so-so 320x240. And I wish it had a mini-USB connector (instead of a pop-port). The wish for the 3.5mm jack goes without saying.

My Dad is thrilled with it, even though he hasn't started using it yet. He's going to use it for calls, SMS, voice-notes recording, (a lot of) web-browsing, (very little) email, (a bit of) movie-watching and (a lot of) audio-book listening. He'll not use the calendar and to-do features at all, if I know him well. He needs to put down that kind of stuff in his diary/planner with a pen. This is his first real mobile phone, by the way.

[Akshay1234]

i just got an n95.

some people have the impression that it is slow but it is actually not slow. i still havent tried out all the features but this phone is mindblowing.

[MC Mayank]

Nice buy hydrashok - that 16,300 price with all the goodies you got along with the phone is unreal man!

Heard there is a black one also doing the rounds? Do you get that in Kochi?
Also, is there some better software available for the to-do and note taking? I am leaning towards a wi-mo device for just this reason

[aZa]

Nice in depth review hydrashok!!! howz the wifi support ?

E61i is a very nice phone, its good for business purpose only as it have all the business related softwares..

[hydrashok]

Thanks, guys

Originally Posted by MC Mayank

Nice buy hydrashok - that 16,300 price with all the goodies you got along with the phone is unreal man!

Heard there is a black one also doing the rounds? Do you get that in Kochi?
Also, is there some better software available for the to-do and note taking? I am leaning towards a wi-mo device for just this reason

Yep. 16300/- is good. MRP in Kochi is 17100/-. I saw the Black+Silver one too. (I didn't know it was a new combi). I liked the Mocha+Silver better. But I would not have felt bad about the Black+Silver combi if the Mocha+Silver weren't available.

WiMo rules as far as note-taking is concerned. If that is important for you, buy only WiMo (professional in WM6). Look for the PhatPad + PhatNotes + Calligrapher combi of SW. Best ever solutions I've seen IMHO for note-taking. I really miss these 3 SWs in my current phone.

Originally Posted by aZa

Nice in depth review hydrashok!!! howz the wifi support ?

Haven't actually tried WiFi yet. Should do some wardriving in the city around the coffee-shops, (or in the official TBHP Hotel of Kochi) heh, heh The Phone supports b & g standards. I don't use WiFi at office/home. Slower download speeds and port-forwarding issues when I'm, uh, *downloading* stuff.

Originally Posted by Nos007

E61i is a very nice phone, its good for business purpose only as it have all the business related softwares..

Yep. But you can get as multimedia as you want with E series phones if you're so inclined -- Just get the right bits of SW.

I'm as multimedia a guy as you can get. But I now prefer the E series phones to the N series phones. The advantage here with E series phones is that you're not saddled with a lot of the image/video editing stuff in the N series phones (that ultimately slow the phones down).

It also helps that the comparative E series phones are less costly than the nearest N series counterparts.

And I've rarely ever used the SW in the phone itself to edit photos/videos (I used a 6630 and then an N70 & and XDA IIi before my current E90). But a good photo-viewer (like Resco Photo Viewer) SW is a must in a phone like this, with a big screen.