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Originally Posted by supremeBaleno That Baleno owner happens to be me and if you read properly, what I mentioned clearly was "Did not see the NHC there - maybe because it is not intended for the European market. But then if it was tested, I am sure it would be as bad as the Baleno." IMO, the NHC is as succeptible as the Baleno. If you have some data on the NHC's safety rating to prove otherwise, feel free to share it. |
Here is some data I want to share:
Honda City is based on Honda Jazz platform... Honda Jazz gets 4/5 in Euro NCAP... Of course like all cars we get the stripped down version in India. But with no India specific test, we can only make estimates of a car based on its European siblings rating.... below is link for Honda Jazz: http://www.euroncap.com/content/safe...?id1=1&id2=188
Key to note here is, unlike Baleno, the car keeps its structural integrity (a fact which is not helped by ABS or Airbags).
Frontal Impact: The body displayed a high level of integrity, suffering only minimal distortion at fascia height and minimal intrusion at the footwell. The Jazz’s cabin proved to be strong and stable, suffering only minimal deformation in the frontal impact. Its restraint systems worked well to protect the occupants and kept the driver’s head away from the steering wheel. Quote:
Originally Posted by supremeBaleno Amitoj did have a point and it was taken for its merit and also because it is an impartial observation from someone who is actually concerned about the safety and not out to malign any car. |
Supreme, I am not here to malign Baleno. I myself drive an Esteem and have time and again refered to it in this thread so that its not taken personally by Baleno loyalists. Last thing I want to do is have a baseless war or words. I am sure yourself, myself and this forum has had enough. However when Samurai mentioned that Balenos rating is poor simply caz of airbags and simply brushed Euro NCAP aside, it was welcome to read what Amitoj had to say. Quote:
Originally Posted by supremeBaleno You get what you ask for. Its not like manufacturers want to reduce India's huge population by giving you unsafe cars. Its just that they know that price is a big factor here and the chances of people lapping up safer cars by paying a premium is quite low. Might change in the future, but till then that is what you get. |
When government could make pollution norms and seat belts as must, I am sure we can make cars with higher safety as a norm as well. Its unfortunate that we consider power steering a neccesity and air bags a luxury. Thats my point. Quote:
Originally Posted by supremeBaleno Forget the Jazz part of it (same platform or not, the Jazz is not sold in India). Let's have the figures of the NHC if you have it. |
Well whether Hyundai Santro is sold as Atos, or Kia, or ATOZ in Europe, as long as the platform on which the Indian car is based is the same, its only valid to have data for the European sibling as a referal. Even Baleno was sold as Esteem in some countries. Esteem was sold without a boot in Europe. The point here is, that with no Indian safety tests, and no Honda Jazz with boot (Honda City) sold in Europe, the only valid comparo we can have is by looking at the data for Honda Jazz. Rest, of course, that leaves the door open for debate. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/iipcache/31510.jpg
Last edited by aseem : 8th June 2006 at 17:26.
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