Verna/Swift/?

dubeyp · 11th October 2006, 11:10

Hi ALL,
Confused between Verna Diesel, SWift ZXi and NHC

Looking for driving Pleasure and Value for Money.

Can you guys help me out, Price range is till 8L

Verna's Power Anmazing ...
Swift Small but easy to handle.
NHC - Expensive

dubeyp

vikram_d · 11th October 2006, 12:28

In my honest opinion you have chosen vehicles from different categories. The Verna & HNC are both in a different class altogether. You could answer a few simple questions and then maybe the choise will be clear to you.

How much do you drive daily?
What are you driving habits? (eg frequent long or highway drives or city driving)
Luggage capacity that you need?

dubeyp · 11th October 2006, 13:42

I know they are in diffrent categories but each has unique proposition not found in a single vehicle

not able to decide
I drive about 40 KM Daily 200 on Weekends. the bangalore traffic drives me to go for easy to handle and small car, I like power so Verna will make my weekend trips really woth to go for , NHC has quality but I thikn the features for that price are less..

Is there any way or formula to comeup with decision..
driving pleasure wise i will rate
NHC,Swift and Verna.

space is not a concern.

muni · 11th October 2006, 14:33

If money is not a problem, i would have chosen the Crdi Verna as you drive a lot from your requirement.

My order of preference would be
1) Verna ( Relatively fresher lookin with space+ comfort + gud FE)
2) Diesel Swift ( Value for money + lower maintnance costs+ The engine many feel is nothing to write abt)
3) NHC ( nice quality car with oodles of boot space but for city use when you are not doing that many Kms not a better deal for the price)

You can consider the Fiesta also any reasons for not considering.

Jaggu · 11th October 2006, 15:18

i think he was referring to swift petrol zxi, drive all 3 in city and some highway and go for one that the heart tells u to, swift obvious advantage of size in city but loads of blind spots also
verna diesel economy and bigger misegment comfort
city sweet engine

my personal opinion size really doesn matter once yoy get used to drivin around and parking is the only time when u really wish and pray

for ur kind of runnin go for diesel verna

adarsh76 · 11th October 2006, 15:18

According to your driving requirements a Diesel car can be a good option for you. The cars for you to consider then are:

Fiesta and Verna.

Advantages of Fiesta:

1. Better Handling though Verna's not bad at all.
2. Slightly better FE (may be 1km more than Verna) according to Hormazd Sorabjee (Autocar Editor)
3. The base model Fiesta EXi costs around 50,000 less tha Verna with some features stripped down.

Rest in every factor like performance, comfort, features, cheaper spare parts costs and service etc. Verna wins over the Fiesta.

If you're considering petrol car then options are many:

1. Aveo
2. Fiesta
3. Verna
4. City

If mileage is the only factor you're considering for a petrol car then may be the NHC has a slight edge. For performance and handling it will be the Fiesta 1.6. City VTEC is also a nice performing car.

Verna features some latest technologies like VTVT and a host of features more than the other cars. Mileage for petrol Verna is still unclear. But it is expected to be a good one. Performance will be definitely better than the NHC.

The only positive aspect of Aveo will be its nice looking interiors. Aveo has the best interiors according to me. Its subjective though. Nothing special to write about Aveo.

dubeyp · 11th October 2006, 15:26

I have test driven all these vehicles you metion,

Aveo is ggod interiror wise but not so good leg space in driver seating area, I had driven it for long, dosent give you that much comfort,

Fiesta good one but in comparision to Verna not that Good in terms of driving pleasure also good *** in comparision to ford.

swift has blind spots can you share some more thoughts on that

esteem_lover · 11th October 2006, 15:43

dubeyp, i suggest you read this first & post your requirements according to this, to help all of us to understand your requirements before giving you the advice. thanks

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/what-c...r-section.html

ravibhat · 11th October 2006, 19:37

Go for Swift If you are satisfied with its interior space, best look among all cars in India right now is Swift, I own one for one of that reasons

but it disappointed me with its minor glitches one after other... If you neglect swift's minor issues its great car overall, you need to keep one thing in mind for city driving like bangalore swift is not a car since its performance is not great in few conditions(slow moving traffic), but on highway its great car gives 11+ FE in city and 16+ on highway.

Verna has new look right now its great car too, if you give importance to space go for Verna. But I don't know about its performance in city driving conditions.

NHC is too old car since we have lot of new options so I suggest you don't go for NHC, there are many people who switched over to Swift from NHC and they are very happy with swift.

Size wise swift is 2 ft less longer but in all respects it has similar dimensions compared with sedans(max 1 or 2 inch difference)

so you can go for swift or verna

Ravi.

hondadude · 11th October 2006, 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubeyp

Hi ALL,
Verna's Power Anmazing ...
Swift Small but easy to handle.
NHC - Expensive
dubeyp

If you can live with Swift's size then go for it. The money that you save over Verna is more than enough to offset any diesel advantage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravibhat

HC is too old car since we have lot of new options so I suggest you don't go for NHC, there are many people who switched over to Swift from NHC and they are very happy with swift

NHC to Swift! Hmmm... why would anyone do that ?

vikram_d · 12th October 2006, 09:48

I have heard a lot of people telling that swift has blind spots and I have been driving one for 4 months now and I dont know what people are talking about. Oh and also the minor glitches. What are they? My vehicle thankfully seems to have come without any of thesee glitches.

dubeyp · 12th October 2006, 10:12

Hi Ravi,
Can you please let me know Minor glitches of Swift, also if someone can throw light on Verna more,
I had driven Verna again yesterday, It seems that for slow moving traffic in Bangalore it not as good as Swift, It had a drag ...but as soon as the road gets clear no comparision.....I usually travel on ORR to Whitefeild

adarsh76 · 12th October 2006, 10:39

Forget the looks. Looks are subjective. But if Getz and Swift were priced almost equal which car would've been more practical? Yes, the swift has a slight edge in performance and mileage over Getz but the interior space and comfort in Getz is way above Swift.

Swift will be a good car if you're driving alone or with a small family.The rear seat will feel cramped for adults.

If you need interior space then it's the Verna which is the best among the vehicles you've listed plus a powerful engine.

F50 · 12th October 2006, 10:52

Dubeyp, I dont know how is he road from ORR to Whitefield. But I would like to say,

1. If Verna's size is not a problem and if you can adjust with it ....Then go for it. Nuthing better then that.
2. If you are considering Swift then why not look at Getz. Its more spacious than Swift. Its a bit low on bhp but it shouldnt cause you a problem as you will be moving slowly in/around banglore. No issues with A.S.S either. VFM.

As you have mentioned about your highway trips, Verna is the thing.

tsk1979 · 12th October 2006, 11:24

ORR to whitefield, a small car or a big car will not make much of a difference.
If you can afford it go for the verna.
Really useful for your weekend highway jaunts.

Also in bangalore, hyundai A.S.S is supposed to be better than maruti, though maruti is not too bad.

11th October 2006, 11:10	#1
dubeyp Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi ALL, Confused between Verna Diesel, SWift ZXi and NHC Looking for driving Pleasure and Value for Money. Can you guys help me out, Price range is till 8L Verna's Power Anmazing ... Swift Small but easy to handle. NHC - Expensive dubeyp
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11th October 2006, 12:28	#2
vikram_d Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,427 Thanked: 1,185 Times	In my honest opinion you have chosen vehicles from different categories. The Verna & HNC are both in a different class altogether. You could answer a few simple questions and then maybe the choise will be clear to you. How much do you drive daily? What are you driving habits? (eg frequent long or highway drives or city driving) Luggage capacity that you need?
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11th October 2006, 13:42	#3
dubeyp Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5 Thanked: 0 Times	I know they are in diffrent categories but each has unique proposition not found in a single vehicle not able to decide I drive about 40 KM Daily 200 on Weekends. the bangalore traffic drives me to go for easy to handle and small car, I like power so Verna will make my weekend trips really woth to go for , NHC has quality but I thikn the features for that price are less.. Is there any way or formula to comeup with decision.. driving pleasure wise i will rate NHC,Swift and Verna. space is not a concern.
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11th October 2006, 14:33	#4
muni BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 607 Thanked: 214 Times View My Garage	If money is not a problem, i would have chosen the Crdi Verna as you drive a lot from your requirement. My order of preference would be 1) Verna ( Relatively fresher lookin with space+ comfort + gud FE) 2) Diesel Swift ( Value for money + lower maintnance costs+ The engine many feel is nothing to write abt) 3) NHC ( nice quality car with oodles of boot space but for city use when you are not doing that many Kms not a better deal for the price) You can consider the Fiesta also any reasons for not considering.
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11th October 2006, 15:18	#5
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	i think he was referring to swift petrol zxi, drive all 3 in city and some highway and go for one that the heart tells u to, swift obvious advantage of size in city but loads of blind spots also verna diesel economy and bigger misegment comfort city sweet engine my personal opinion size really doesn matter once yoy get used to drivin around and parking is the only time when u really wish and pray for ur kind of runnin go for diesel verna
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11th October 2006, 15:18	#6
adarsh76 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 661 Thanked: 231 Times	According to your driving requirements a Diesel car can be a good option for you. The cars for you to consider then are: Fiesta and Verna. Advantages of Fiesta: 1. Better Handling though Verna's not bad at all. 2. Slightly better FE (may be 1km more than Verna) according to Hormazd Sorabjee (Autocar Editor) 3. The base model Fiesta EXi costs around 50,000 less tha Verna with some features stripped down. Rest in every factor like performance, comfort, features, cheaper spare parts costs and service etc. Verna wins over the Fiesta. If you're considering petrol car then options are many: 1. Aveo 2. Fiesta 3. Verna 4. City If mileage is the only factor you're considering for a petrol car then may be the NHC has a slight edge. For performance and handling it will be the Fiesta 1.6. City VTEC is also a nice performing car. Verna features some latest technologies like VTVT and a host of features more than the other cars. Mileage for petrol Verna is still unclear. But it is expected to be a good one. Performance will be definitely better than the NHC. The only positive aspect of Aveo will be its nice looking interiors. Aveo has the best interiors according to me. Its subjective though. Nothing special to write about Aveo. Last edited by adarsh76 : 11th October 2006 at 15:20.
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11th October 2006, 15:26	#7
dubeyp Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5 Thanked: 0 Times	I have test driven all these vehicles you metion, Aveo is ggod interiror wise but not so good leg space in driver seating area, I had driven it for long, dosent give you that much comfort, Fiesta good one but in comparision to Verna not that Good in terms of driving pleasure also good *** in comparision to ford. swift has blind spots can you share some more thoughts on that
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11th October 2006, 15:43	#8
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	dubeyp, i suggest you read this first & post your requirements according to this, to help all of us to understand your requirements before giving you the advice. thanks http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/what-c...r-section.html
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11th October 2006, 19:37	#9
ravibhat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,256 Thanked: 37 Times View My Garage	Go for Swift If you are satisfied with its interior space, best look among all cars in India right now is Swift, I own one for one of that reasons but it disappointed me with its minor glitches one after other... If you neglect swift's minor issues its great car overall, you need to keep one thing in mind for city driving like bangalore swift is not a car since its performance is not great in few conditions(slow moving traffic), but on highway its great car gives 11+ FE in city and 16+ on highway. Verna has new look right now its great car too, if you give importance to space go for Verna. But I don't know about its performance in city driving conditions. NHC is too old car since we have lot of new options so I suggest you don't go for NHC, there are many people who switched over to Swift from NHC and they are very happy with swift. Size wise swift is 2 ft less longer but in all respects it has similar dimensions compared with sedans(max 1 or 2 inch difference) so you can go for swift or verna Ravi.
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12th October 2006, 09:48	#11
vikram_d Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,427 Thanked: 1,185 Times	I have heard a lot of people telling that swift has blind spots and I have been driving one for 4 months now and I dont know what people are talking about. Oh and also the minor glitches. What are they? My vehicle thankfully seems to have come without any of thesee glitches.
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12th October 2006, 10:12	#12
dubeyp Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi Ravi, Can you please let me know Minor glitches of Swift, also if someone can throw light on Verna more, I had driven Verna again yesterday, It seems that for slow moving traffic in Bangalore it not as good as Swift, It had a drag ...but as soon as the road gets clear no comparision.....I usually travel on ORR to Whitefeild
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12th October 2006, 10:39	#13
adarsh76 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 661 Thanked: 231 Times	Forget the looks. Looks are subjective. But if Getz and Swift were priced almost equal which car would've been more practical? Yes, the swift has a slight edge in performance and mileage over Getz but the interior space and comfort in Getz is way above Swift. Swift will be a good car if you're driving alone or with a small family.The rear seat will feel cramped for adults. If you need interior space then it's the Verna which is the best among the vehicles you've listed plus a powerful engine.
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12th October 2006, 10:52	#14
F50 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai/USA Posts: 1,707 Thanked: 103 Times	Dubeyp, I dont know how is he road from ORR to Whitefield. But I would like to say, 1. If Verna's size is not a problem and if you can adjust with it ....Then go for it. Nuthing better then that. 2. If you are considering Swift then why not look at Getz. Its more spacious than Swift. Its a bit low on bhp but it shouldnt cause you a problem as you will be moving slowly in/around banglore. No issues with A.S.S either. VFM. As you have mentioned about your highway trips, Verna is the thing.
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12th October 2006, 11:24	#15
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	ORR to whitefield, a small car or a big car will not make much of a difference. If you can afford it go for the verna. Really useful for your weekend highway jaunts. Also in bangalore, hyundai A.S.S is supposed to be better than maruti, though maruti is not too bad.
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