Got a summons for jumping a red light...

ajmat · 18th February 2006, 17:14

...except it was not me, it was my old Zen that I sold 3 years ago and they have picked on me and sent a notice asking me to provide my driving licence and pay Rs 100

What do I do ?

I have the delivery note. The guy who bought it, was not the guy who signed the delivery note but I know where he lives. I plan to reply to the police stating the details and letting it rest there.

Any other suggestions ?

Joz · 18th February 2006, 18:03

How would this happen in the first place? Wouldn't the RTOs update the ownership details after a sale is registered?

Think communicating back to the summons with the documents of the sale is the logical thing to do.

EVO6 · 19th February 2006, 01:36

This could only happen if the Car has not been transfered and re-registered in the new owners name... Happened to me once.. When u sell a car make sure u get a copy of the Registration certificate from the new owner with his name on it ...
Cheers

jkdas · 19th February 2006, 09:13

catch that guy who bought your car. Hope he changed the insurance and all.

Whers tbhp advocates?

Godfather · 19th February 2006, 10:17

This has happened to me also. I had sold my corolla and after a year i got a summon for rash driving. Then i took the sale receipt to the cop station and showed it to them that i dont own the car anymore and also went to the RTO and got it updated there.
Next I gave the address of the guy whome i sold the car to and the summons got redirected to him.. Hope this helps but its a pain to explain to the cops the entire thing, and they also blame you for not having it updated in the RTO.. so be prepared to answer their crazy questions and pay bribes as usual..

ajmat · 19th February 2006, 10:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

catch that guy who bought your car. Hope he changed the insurance and all.

Whers tbhp advocates?

I have the delivery note. Was bought by a a friend of mines neighbour - later I found out that he was a dealer who used the car and sold it on. The delivery note is not in his name though.

Luckily for the remaining cars, I hve either transferred the name myself for the seller as part of the deal or sold it to Maruti True value where I can trace it.

Rtech · 19th February 2006, 11:05

you should send a registered letter to the RTO stating that the car has been sold to xyz and the address of that person.

A similar letter must also be sent to your insurance company.

If any problem arises later, you have the postal acknowledgment that you had informed the RTO.

haryan · 19th February 2006, 11:13

It is better and wise to reply to your summons stating that you sold that car long back and send a copy of that delivery note..
otherwise you might be charged for ignoring the summons ...

tifosikrishna · 19th February 2006, 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rtech

you should send a registered letter to the RTO stating that the car has been sold to xyz and the address of that person.

A similar letter must also be sent to your insurance company.

If any problem arises later, you have the postal acknowledgment that you had informed the RTO.

ajmat, if i am right, the onus is on the seller to ensure that the car has been re registered to the buyers name. (that's the case in tamil nadu).

next best thing you can do is what rtech has mentioned. better send a registered post with acknowlegement to inform the same to rto immediately.

thank god, its just a petty offence. just imagine what would be your plight if some serious crime/illegal activities are carried out with your old vehilce.

dont procastinate.

ajmat · 19th February 2006, 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by tifosikrishna

next best thing you can do is what rtech has mentioned. better send a registered post with acknowlegement to inform the same to rto immediately.

dont procastinate.

I intend to do this tomorrow. As mentioned, I have seen the car several times with "Classic Automobile " Plates (they changes the plates to one with their logo on each one that they sell. I think the guy who bought it from me, disposed it through them.

It is driven by a sober looking middle aged guy. My guess is that the car ownership has been transferred but there is a disconnect in the records on computer

ajmat · 20th February 2006, 10:47

Got my secretary to call into a police station. I need to go there and show the delivery note and they will withdraw the case.

Probably means slipping a 100

tifosikrishna · 20th February 2006, 11:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajmat

Probably means slipping a 100

dont give them unless they explicitly ask for it......

ajmat · 21st February 2006, 11:41

Closed...for the time being

Went to Traffic Office and explained situation

Dumb Officer - Car is in your name, go pay, does not matter if you have transferred, go pay at the window

Go to window - give summons + fine (rs 100)

Clerk - licence kodai (give licence)

Me in kracked Kannada : Naanu driver illa

Clerk: Hindi samacho - teen month ke badh, fine 300

Me: Car sale ho gaya, me driver nahin

Clerk: Adjust maadi - 200 kodhe

Promptly fills in some fake details and I get a receipt with the driver being some Aga Khan.

I chat up Clerk and pal and they advise me to write to RTO Koramangala to inform them about this.

Now to get some stamp paper and make an affadavit

ajmat · 18th March 2006, 09:25

Further update

Made affadavit and sent it to RTO - they sent it back asking me to come in person. Never got time.

Yesterday evening - was walking on St Marks Road when I saw the car parked in India garage. Hung around, wnet and bought a magazine but no one appeared. Rather than be caught loitering, I wrote a note on my card about the summons etc and requested the person to please transfer the car into his name. Added my mobile no.

The owner called me this morning and said that the car is in his wife's name. Was most apologetic and offered to pay the fine. Anyway, closed on a good note on what a good car it is etc. and I have number if anything happens again. phewwwwwwwww!

varunroy · 25th March 2006, 19:18

Alls well that ends well.

So long....

18th February 2006, 17:14	#1
ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 14,864 Thanked: 27,975 Times View My Garage	Got a summons for jumping a red light... ...except it was not me, it was my old Zen that I sold 3 years ago and they have picked on me and sent a notice asking me to provide my driving licence and pay Rs 100 What do I do ? I have the delivery note. The guy who bought it, was not the guy who signed the delivery note but I know where he lives. I plan to reply to the police stating the details and letting it rest there. Any other suggestions ? Last edited by ajmat : 21st February 2006 at 11:42.
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18th February 2006, 18:03	#2
Joz BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dubai Posts: 247 Thanked: 2 Times	How would this happen in the first place? Wouldn't the RTOs update the ownership details after a sale is registered? Think communicating back to the summons with the documents of the sale is the logical thing to do.
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19th February 2006, 01:36	#3
EVO6 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 488 Thanked: 11 Times	This could only happen if the Car has not been transfered and re-registered in the new owners name... Happened to me once.. When u sell a car make sure u get a copy of the Registration certificate from the new owner with his name on it ... Cheers
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19th February 2006, 09:13	#4
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	catch that guy who bought your car. Hope he changed the insurance and all. Whers tbhp advocates?
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19th February 2006, 10:17	#5
Godfather Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore / Atlanta Posts: 1,387 Thanked: 70 Times View My Garage	This has happened to me also. I had sold my corolla and after a year i got a summon for rash driving. Then i took the sale receipt to the cop station and showed it to them that i dont own the car anymore and also went to the RTO and got it updated there. Next I gave the address of the guy whome i sold the car to and the summons got redirected to him.. Hope this helps but its a pain to explain to the cops the entire thing, and they also blame you for not having it updated in the RTO.. so be prepared to answer their crazy questions and pay bribes as usual..
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19th February 2006, 11:05	#7
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	you should send a registered letter to the RTO stating that the car has been sold to xyz and the address of that person. A similar letter must also be sent to your insurance company. If any problem arises later, you have the postal acknowledgment that you had informed the RTO.
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19th February 2006, 11:13	#8
haryan BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: HYDERABAD INDIA Posts: 345 Thanked: 5 Times	It is better and wise to reply to your summons stating that you sold that car long back and send a copy of that delivery note.. otherwise you might be charged for ignoring the summons ...
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20th February 2006, 10:47	#11
ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 14,864 Thanked: 27,975 Times View My Garage	Got my secretary to call into a police station. I need to go there and show the delivery note and they will withdraw the case. Probably means slipping a 100
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21st February 2006, 11:41	#13
ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 14,864 Thanked: 27,975 Times View My Garage	Closed...for the time being Went to Traffic Office and explained situation Dumb Officer - Car is in your name, go pay, does not matter if you have transferred, go pay at the window Go to window - give summons + fine (rs 100) Clerk - licence kodai (give licence) Me in kracked Kannada : Naanu driver illa Clerk: Hindi samacho - teen month ke badh, fine 300 Me: Car sale ho gaya, me driver nahin Clerk: Adjust maadi - 200 kodhe Promptly fills in some fake details and I get a receipt with the driver being some Aga Khan. I chat up Clerk and pal and they advise me to write to RTO Koramangala to inform them about this. Now to get some stamp paper and make an affadavit
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18th March 2006, 09:25	#14
ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 14,864 Thanked: 27,975 Times View My Garage	Further update Made affadavit and sent it to RTO - they sent it back asking me to come in person. Never got time. Yesterday evening - was walking on St Marks Road when I saw the car parked in India garage. Hung around, wnet and bought a magazine but no one appeared. Rather than be caught loitering, I wrote a note on my card about the summons etc and requested the person to please transfer the car into his name. Added my mobile no. The owner called me this morning and said that the car is in his wife's name. Was most apologetic and offered to pay the fine. Anyway, closed on a good note on what a good car it is etc. and I have number if anything happens again. phewwwwwwwww!
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25th March 2006, 19:18	#15
varunroy BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 385 Thanked: 13 Times	Thank god Alls well that ends well. So long.... Last edited by varunroy : 25th March 2006 at 19:22. Reason: not read the entire thread.
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