Mahindra Scorpio Automatic - Production stopped

scopriobharath · 27th July 2012, 10:51

Dear All,

Mahindra Scorpio automatic's production has been stopped from this month as DSI, their sole supplier of Auto trannies has stopped supplying to M&M (and SsangYong).

People who are looking for an auto might want to hurry up fast and get some in-stock products.

The risk factor is that, in the unlikely event of a tranny failure, replacement under warranty might be a challenge.

Courtesy: Page 29, "Confidential" section in August issue of Autocar Magazine.

GTO · 28th July 2012, 14:27

Thread moved from the Assembly Line to the Indian Car Scene. Thanks for sharing!

Ahmed · 28th July 2012, 16:25

I respect Mahindra. I was very happy when the Auto Scorpio was launched. Really felt proud at that moment as it would have been the first Indian Auto SUV at this price bucket. I doubt TATA Safari ever explored this option. After reading this news - I feel maybe Mahindra is coming up with something of its own and hence the said move.

If XUV5oo can come out of its stable - an auto tranny is like nothing in comparison.

Purely my views. Please correct me if I am wrong here.

a4anurag · 28th July 2012, 17:25

I mean then what does M&M say if there is a failure with existing owners?

New owners may not choose to buy one since its stopped.

V-16 · 28th July 2012, 17:32

Firstly the Scorpio Automatic is what i would call as a Jugaad. Something thats got a mind of its own when shifting. I think M&M got an autobox for the cheapest price and desperately tried to mate it with their otherwise brilliant engine and everything went wrong. I, for one, am a total advocate for automatic cars but i would never touch a Scorpio auto with a 10 foot pole. When the up shifts and downshifts will take place depends on something no one knows. No wonder it is being phased out. I believe the Ford Endevour comparatively is brilliant....remember i said comparatively. I dont think there should be a problem of parts as M&M are not a small fly by night company and are trying very hard at building their image as serious car builders. the XUV 500 has proved that in a big way. I see this as a realization of sorts that they are not going to now depend on shoddy stuff and are maybe looking for a good box to mate with their engine. I trust Mahindra....somewhat.

n.devdath · 28th July 2012, 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by scopriobharath

Mahindra Scorpio automatic's production has been stopped from this month as DSI, their sole supplier of Auto trannies has stopped supplying to M&M (and SsangYong).

Do we know why the supply has been stopped?

scopriobharath · 28th July 2012, 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by a4anurag

I mean then what does M&M say if there is a failure with existing owners?

New owners may not choose to buy one since its stopped.

According to Indian Laws spares must be made available for at least 7 years once a model is stopped. The contract termination will not be abrupt, but Mahindra will have sufficient stock to cater to the number of auto boxes' scorpios sold.

Secondly, My Santro needed a replacement power-window switch, that was not available in india, but it was shipped from Korea. On the same lines, on request, i guess the same may be shipped from SsangYong too (would be costly but at least available). Mahindra is improving its service standards and am sure it wont let down its customers

scopriobharath · 28th July 2012, 23:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by n.devdath

Do we know why the supply has been stopped?

I am not sure about the reason, but i guess maybe the quality and volume expectations of Mahindra did not match up to the DSI Quality.

Mahindra was looking for trannies for Scorpio, XUV, Korando and Rexton , rumored on Verito and Xylo. DSI would really have to scale up a lot to deliver these volumes and also at a better quality than the current Auto scorpio.

tanwaramit · 29th July 2012, 09:30

Sad news. Hope its for the better.

XUV and Scorpio definitely need automatic transmission.

Verito too needs an AT box.

Sangyong vehicles would come with their AT boxes, as AT would be used where these cars are manufactured.

Is the AT manufacturer cancelled for

1. No immediate or future launch of Scorpio in USA
2. Mahindra looking for AT boxes from China, like Tata is planning.

.anshuman · 29th July 2012, 10:57

Another bad news- Work on Xuv500 automatic also put on delay mode.

Source:Same article from aci

wilful · 29th July 2012, 13:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by .anshuman

Another bad news- Work on Xuv500 automatic also put on delay mode.

Source:Same article from aci

That is bad news indeed! The XUV with a good auto box would surely be the icing on the cake for Mahindra. I'm sure there would be quite a few takers.

miharbe · 30th July 2012, 02:06

I read it in the magazine but IIRC on the TV show were Hormazd mentioned that the company (DSI) has filed for bankruptcy and that the task of finding a new supplier of auto boxes has been given to Ssangyong which is why first the stoppage of the scorpio automatic and delay in the XUV automatic

ajmat · 30th July 2012, 08:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by n.devdath

Do we know why the supply has been stopped?

DSI has gone bust according to Hormuzd during his Autocar Show scoop section

scopriobharath · 1st August 2012, 19:04

5 month old but relevant news w.r.t DSI Australia.

DSI workforce stood down | The Border Mail

Gearbox maker stands down 250 workers

bbops1 · 2nd August 2012, 14:57

Maybe Mahindra can source these boxes from ZF ??

27th July 2012, 10:51	#1
scopriobharath Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 3,622 Thanked: 1,342 Times	Mahindra Scorpio Automatic - Production stopped Dear All, Mahindra Scorpio automatic's production has been stopped from this month as DSI, their sole supplier of Auto trannies has stopped supplying to M&M (and SsangYong). People who are looking for an auto might want to hurry up fast and get some in-stock products. The risk factor is that, in the unlikely event of a tranny failure, replacement under warranty might be a challenge. Courtesy: Page 29, "Confidential" section in August issue of Autocar Magazine. Last edited by scopriobharath : 27th July 2012 at 10:53.
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28th July 2012, 14:27	#2
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 71,824 Thanked: 322,755 Times View My Garage	Re: Mahindra Scorpio Automatic - Production stopped Thread moved from the Assembly Line to the Indian Car Scene. Thanks for sharing!
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28th July 2012, 16:25	#3
Ahmed BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Aurangabad Posts: 163 Thanked: 308 Times	Re: Mahindra Scorpio Automatic - Production stopped I respect Mahindra. I was very happy when the Auto Scorpio was launched. Really felt proud at that moment as it would have been the first Indian Auto SUV at this price bucket. I doubt TATA Safari ever explored this option. After reading this news - I feel maybe Mahindra is coming up with something of its own and hence the said move. If XUV5oo can come out of its stable - an auto tranny is like nothing in comparison. Purely my views. Please correct me if I am wrong here.
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a4anurag BANNED Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 12,345 Thanked: 21,452 Times	Re: Mahindra Scorpio Automatic - Production stopped I mean then what does M&M say if there is a failure with existing owners? New owners may not choose to buy one since its stopped.
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28th July 2012, 17:32	#5
V-16 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 4,589 Thanked: 960 Times View My Garage	Re: Mahindra Scorpio Automatic - Production stopped Firstly the Scorpio Automatic is what i would call as a Jugaad. Something thats got a mind of its own when shifting. I think M&M got an autobox for the cheapest price and desperately tried to mate it with their otherwise brilliant engine and everything went wrong. I, for one, am a total advocate for automatic cars but i would never touch a Scorpio auto with a 10 foot pole. When the up shifts and downshifts will take place depends on something no one knows. No wonder it is being phased out. I believe the Ford Endevour comparatively is brilliant....remember i said comparatively. I dont think there should be a problem of parts as M&M are not a small fly by night company and are trying very hard at building their image as serious car builders. the XUV 500 has proved that in a big way. I see this as a realization of sorts that they are not going to now depend on shoddy stuff and are maybe looking for a good box to mate with their engine. I trust Mahindra....somewhat.
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29th July 2012, 09:30	#9
tanwaramit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Dilwalon ki Dilli Posts: 1,946 Thanked: 514 Times	Sad news. Hope its for the better. XUV and Scorpio definitely need automatic transmission. Verito too needs an AT box. Sangyong vehicles would come with their AT boxes, as AT would be used where these cars are manufactured. Is the AT manufacturer cancelled for 1. No immediate or future launch of Scorpio in USA 2. Mahindra looking for AT boxes from China, like Tata is planning.
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29th July 2012, 10:57	#10
.anshuman Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Good-Gaon Posts: 7,763 Thanked: 11,131 Times View My Garage	Another bad news- Work on Xuv500 automatic also put on delay mode. Source:Same article from aci Last edited by .anshuman : 29th July 2012 at 10:59.
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30th July 2012, 02:06	#12
miharbe BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 314 Thanked: 263 Times	Re: Mahindra Scorpio Automatic - Production stopped I read it in the magazine but IIRC on the TV show were Hormazd mentioned that the company (DSI) has filed for bankruptcy and that the task of finding a new supplier of auto boxes has been given to Ssangyong which is why first the stoppage of the scorpio automatic and delay in the XUV automatic Last edited by miharbe : 30th July 2012 at 02:29.
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scopriobharath Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 3,622 Thanked: 1,342 Times	Re: Mahindra Scorpio Automatic - Production stopped 5 month old but relevant news w.r.t DSI Australia. DSI workforce stood down \| The Border Mail Gearbox maker stands down 250 workers
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2nd August 2012, 14:57	#15
bbops1 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: bangalore Posts: 32 Thanked: Once	Re: Mahindra Scorpio Automatic - Production stopped Maybe Mahindra can source these boxes from ZF ??
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