Scoop: Mazda CX-5 SUV spied testing

deetjohn · 30th July 2012, 22:56

Nice scoop em17.

The CX-5 is CR-V territory right? Puzzled what's it doing here. Ford is still a strategic partner for Mazda.

The CX-5 got a mighty 380Nm twin turbo Diesel down under. A good friend got the petrol one there. And its loaded with features.

chennai-indian · 30th July 2012, 23:30

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Originally Posted by deetjohn

Nice scoop em17.

The CX-5 is CR-V territory right? Puzzled what's it doing here. Ford is still a strategic partner for Mazda.

Not anymore - at least not since the last 2 years. Ford sold off most of it's stake in Mazda and Mazda is now truly independent of Ford. They still share some platforms/engines but those deals were inked before the sell off.

How do I know? Well, I was involved in the "separation" of their IT systems 2 years back.

n:CorE · 31st July 2012, 08:49

Massive scoop em17! Great job.
Looks like Mazda is gearing up for a debut in the Indian car market. I have always been a fan of the Japanese and my wish list from Mazda would be plain and simply,
MX-5 under the 25L bracket and watch the most affordable as well as reliable convertible car in India fly off the shelves. Be assured of a booking from my side on that one.

Anyways, even the CX-5 seems to be a very interesting proposition. I don't think it's promotion campaign in the UK is going to work very well here in India. They've called it a family SUV that drives like a 'Sports Car'. Load it with features, clever interior packaging and price it right to see results. How come there is no light on Mazda's entry in India? Do they even have a unit? Are they coming in via CKD or they are just starting things of as CBU, top-down strategy?

Moreover Mazda as a brand could never command a sort of premium over the established Europeans or even the likes of Toyota or Honda. Coming in CBU would really be a bad idea IMO.

dZired · 31st July 2012, 09:13

Ahh so another brand is entering the indian market. I am quite happy to see this scoop. But I think the launch will take quite long.

OT: I feel this is a much better way to test cars. Camouflaging attracts eyes while if a car is tested like this, the unaware folks wouldn't even know thhat this is a new car undergoing testing.

johnjacob · 31st July 2012, 10:23

This Mazda has a regular numberplate and not the red test registration. How do we know that this is a manufacturer test vehicle and not a private import under transfer of residence?

sarthakgupta · 31st July 2012, 11:48

Wheel-o-Mania reports that the car will come in collaboration with Maruti

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Before we could make any speculations our eyes went on to the driver and before we started questioning him about the model, our eyes went on to the identity card which he was wearing and to our surprise it was a Maruti Suzuki card. We asked him several questions to which he replied calmly two cars are on the test run in Gurgaon - One a grey variant and another a black variant which has been imported from Japan as of now, but he says the car will be produced locally in Gurgaon only at Maruti Suzuki plant as both the companies are about to enter into some sort of collaboration.

Source:Breaking & Exclusive - Mazda to launch Compact SUV - CX-5 in India in collaboration with Maruti Suzuki, Spy shots inside ~ Wheel-O-Mania

zeemmee · 31st July 2012, 12:11

It could be CX- 3 as well, as it looks too quirky for a bigger car, so a bit of digging lead me to this..
2014 Mazda CX-3

vb-saan · 31st July 2012, 16:42

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Originally Posted by johnjacob

This Mazda has a regular numberplate and not the red test registration. How do we know that this is a manufacturer test vehicle and not a private import under transfer of residence?

Probably yes, but in that case why the owner should knock off the logo from both ends, and even from the wheels?

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Originally Posted by sarthakgupta

Wheel-o-Mania reports that the car will come in collaboration with Maruti

Interesting! And there are news of Fiat and Mazda collaboration as well. Also some alliance to have Alfa Romeo RWD roadsters developed on Mazda MX-5 platform.

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Originally Posted by zeemmee

It could be CX- 3 as well, as it looks too quirky for a bigger car, so a bit of digging lead me to this..

The car in OP is indeed the CX-5.

bilalsyed · 31st July 2012, 17:34

haha !! nice scoop !! This was near the HUDA gymkhana club. U see that auto in the pic, it was me in it

since the number plate was there and no disguise, i thought it was a private vehicle with a missing badge !! And now i find it here !! Great !

troublemaker · 31st July 2012, 20:18

I always thought small/medium Mazda vehicles would suite India but going CBU way would kill the brand for sure. Mazda cannot ask for premium.

revved_up · 31st July 2012, 20:43

Ok Guys.. I wanted to start this thread for sometime, but could not get time.
I have been spotting this same car atleast 3-4 times around IFFCO chowk.

Buttttt for the last 2 times, i have spotted this same car inside the Maruti Plant in Gurgaon.

I also saw some ppl in the R&D dept walking around with what looked like the Mazda logo which came off the front and rear of this car!!

Is Maruti thinking of rebadging this car as a Maruti in India??? or are they doing some competition case study?

Edit: Just saw Sarthakgupta's post above, now the spotting inside MSIL makes more sense

Vishal.R · 31st July 2012, 22:41

One significant information from Wikipedia article on Mazda Cx-5,

"The Japan domestic market CX-5 achieved monthly sales 8 times higher than forecast right after its launch in February 2012, with the "clean diesel" (as it is referred to in Japan) model accounting for 73% of these."

Source: Mazda CX-5 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Original Article Mazda CX-5 "Clean Diesel" Reverses Diesel's Decline in Japan | Integrity Exports

This shows it is really a competent product and has good potential in Indian market also.

To realize this potential, prizing is also important, therefore should be launched at least as a CKD if not manufactured locally.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 1st August 2012, 09:09

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Originally Posted by revved_up

Buttttt for the last 2 times, i have spotted this same car inside the Maruti Plant in Gurgaon.

And I can see only one reason for that - The CX-5 comes with either a 163bhp, 2.0-litre petrol or a 2.2-litre diesel (148bhp or 173bhp).

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The diesel is a peach. It's remarkably smooth and quiet, and, if you want, you can take it beyond 5,000rpm and it won't get all shouty. But there's no need, because, as with all diesels, the good stuff happens from 1,500 to 3,500rpm. And 148bhp is all you need, tugging the CX-5 along without apparent effort.

Source - http://www.topgear.com/uk/mazda/cx-5/road-test/driven

I guess Maruti might be looking at an agreement with Mazda, which gives the diesel engines to their range - and inturn giving an assembly line/ easy entry for Mazda. A 2.2L diesel is just what they need right now - to make winners out of Kizashi/ Vitara.

CARDEEP · 1st August 2012, 12:37

ACI have confirmed that Mazda is eyeing Indian entry, but, it refers to same sightings as @em17 has put up. This can put all the rumor mills & nay-sayers at bay for some time.

Mazda eyeing India entry | News | Autocar India

Biraj · 2nd August 2012, 14:19

I too spotted this in Gurgaon on Tuesday. I was curious as it didn't have any badges but had a proper registration number. It was driven by a young guy. I guess he spotted T-bhp stickers on my car and stopped his vehicle after taking the right turn from IFFCO chowk. I noticed from the rear view that he waited for some time and then took a left near the Airtel building.

I did manage to click a pic when I was right behind him at the traffic signal.

30th July 2012, 22:56	#16
deetjohn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kochi Posts: 4,529 Thanked: 10,594 Times View My Garage	Re: Scoop: Mazda CX-5 SUV spied testing Nice scoop em17. The CX-5 is CR-V territory right? Puzzled what's it doing here. Ford is still a strategic partner for Mazda. The CX-5 got a mighty 380Nm twin turbo Diesel down under. A good friend got the petrol one there. And its loaded with features.
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31st July 2012, 08:49	#18
n:CorE BHPian Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Mumbai Posts: 252 Thanked: 479 Times	Re: Scoop: Mazda CX-5 SUV spied testing Massive scoop em17! Great job. Looks like Mazda is gearing up for a debut in the Indian car market. I have always been a fan of the Japanese and my wish list from Mazda would be plain and simply, MX-5 under the 25L bracket and watch the most affordable as well as reliable convertible car in India fly off the shelves. Be assured of a booking from my side on that one. Anyways, even the CX-5 seems to be a very interesting proposition. I don't think it's promotion campaign in the UK is going to work very well here in India. They've called it a family SUV that drives like a 'Sports Car'. Load it with features, clever interior packaging and price it right to see results. How come there is no light on Mazda's entry in India? Do they even have a unit? Are they coming in via CKD or they are just starting things of as CBU, top-down strategy? Moreover Mazda as a brand could never command a sort of premium over the established Europeans or even the likes of Toyota or Honda. Coming in CBU would really be a bad idea IMO.
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31st July 2012, 09:13	#19
dZired Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,870 Thanked: 8,000 Times View My Garage	Re: Scoop: Mazda CX-5 SUV spied testing Ahh so another brand is entering the indian market. I am quite happy to see this scoop. But I think the launch will take quite long. OT: I feel this is a much better way to test cars. Camouflaging attracts eyes while if a car is tested like this, the unaware folks wouldn't even know thhat this is a new car undergoing testing.
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31st July 2012, 10:23	#20
johnjacob BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bangalore, INDIA Posts: 344 Thanked: 26 Times	Re: Scoop: Mazda CX-5 SUV spied testing This Mazda has a regular numberplate and not the red test registration. How do we know that this is a manufacturer test vehicle and not a private import under transfer of residence?
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zeemmee BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: HYD-Canada Posts: 73 Thanked: 26 Times	Re: Scoop: Mazda CX-5 SUV spied testing It could be CX- 3 as well, as it looks too quirky for a bigger car, so a bit of digging lead me to this.. 2014 Mazda CX-3
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bilalsyed BHPian Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Lucknow Posts: 63 Thanked: 19 Times	Re: Scoop: Mazda CX-5 SUV spied testing haha !! nice scoop !! This was near the HUDA gymkhana club. U see that auto in the pic, it was me in it since the number plate was there and no disguise, i thought it was a private vehicle with a missing badge !! And now i find it here !! Great !
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31st July 2012, 20:18	#25
troublemaker BHPian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Nutley/Ahmedabad Posts: 253 Thanked: 130 Times View My Garage	Re: Scoop: Mazda CX-5 SUV spied testing I always thought small/medium Mazda vehicles would suite India but going CBU way would kill the brand for sure. Mazda cannot ask for premium.
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31st July 2012, 20:43	#26
revved_up BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 802 Thanked: 793 Times View My Garage	Re: Scoop: Mazda CX-5 SUV spied testing Ok Guys.. I wanted to start this thread for sometime, but could not get time. I have been spotting this same car atleast 3-4 times around IFFCO chowk. Buttttt for the last 2 times, i have spotted this same car inside the Maruti Plant in Gurgaon. I also saw some ppl in the R&D dept walking around with what looked like the Mazda logo which came off the front and rear of this car!! Is Maruti thinking of rebadging this car as a Maruti in India??? or are they doing some competition case study? Edit: Just saw Sarthakgupta's post above, now the spotting inside MSIL makes more sense Last edited by revved_up : 31st July 2012 at 20:45.
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31st July 2012, 22:41	#27
Vishal.R BHPian Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Gandhinagar Posts: 352 Thanked: 699 Times	Re: Scoop: Mazda CX-5 SUV spied testing One significant information from Wikipedia article on Mazda Cx-5, "The Japan domestic market CX-5 achieved monthly sales 8 times higher than forecast right after its launch in February 2012, with the "clean diesel" (as it is referred to in Japan) model accounting for 73% of these." Source: Mazda CX-5 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Original Article Mazda CX-5 "Clean Diesel" Reverses Diesel's Decline in Japan \| Integrity Exports This shows it is really a competent product and has good potential in Indian market also. To realize this potential, prizing is also important, therefore should be launched at least as a CKD if not manufactured locally. Last edited by Vishal.R : 31st July 2012 at 22:50. Reason: Adding original article source.
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1st August 2012, 12:37	#29
CARDEEP Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NCR Posts: 3,337 Thanked: 2,721 Times	Re: Scoop: Mazda CX-5 SUV spied testing ACI have confirmed that Mazda is eyeing Indian entry, but, it refers to same sightings as @em17 has put up. This can put all the rumor mills & nay-sayers at bay for some time. Mazda eyeing India entry \| News \| Autocar India
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2nd August 2012, 14:19	#30
Biraj BHPian Join Date: May 2011 Location: NCR Posts: 703 Thanked: 2,472 Times	Re: Scoop: Mazda CX-5 SUV spied testing I too spotted this in Gurgaon on Tuesday. I was curious as it didn't have any badges but had a proper registration number. It was driven by a young guy. I guess he spotted T-bhp stickers on my car and stopped his vehicle after taking the right turn from IFFCO chowk. I noticed from the rear view that he waited for some time and then took a left near the Airtel building. I did manage to click a pic when I was right behind him at the traffic signal.
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