[Khushrav]

If there is a way to know which cities by tier are selling what cars, that would be a great insight. For example, we keep getting surprised at the Scorpio and Bolero numbers but how many of these are in Tier 1 cities?

Also, how many cars are getting registered in Daman, Jharkhand, Delhi, Chandigarh etc. which have extremely low registration cost. Will GST have any impact on this?

[romeomidhun]

1. WagonR affected by Ignis.
2. Gypsy selling 200+ units. Only army has abandoned it - not the common offroader people, I guess.
3. DZire sales affected by the news about the new model?
4. Ciaz will further go down as it is a Nexa-exclusive model now.
5. Creta, i10 and i20 demand very strong.
6. International Vitara instead of SCross is the only way for Maruti to tackle Creta; not even the face"lifted" SCross can do that.
7. Xcent on a downfall.
8. Hexa numbers are very good compared to Aria.
9. GM has to bring a BS-IV Tavera. It still has strong demand in taxi segment.
10. Same is the case with Sumo in rural areas.
11. Ecosport shows how good design+quality can survive in India.
12. Mobilio production stopped?
13. City will never sleep.
14. Innova - the un-disputable king of MPVs
15. Kwid shows how David can threaten Goliath.

[kpzen]

Mar 2017 : Maruti vs Hyundai Battle

a) Hyundai total sales qty is only 35 % of Maruti's total qty but in terms of revenue is 50 % of Maruti.
b) Creta will total sales of 10001 has more revenue per car than any of the Marutis. Staggering achievement.

Note : The above figures may not be 100% accurate as average cost per car is an assumption as we don't have variant wise contribution of each model.

Overall, Maruti is doing extremely well and Hyundai needs to do some catching up in the 10 lac Sedan category. The new Verna has to come in soon.

[Leoshashi]

Originally Posted by romeomidhun

1. Gypsy selling 200+ units. Only army has abandoned it - not the common offroader people, I guess.
2. .

Even the army hasn't completely abandoned it. Saw 5 brand new Olive Green hardtop Gypsys inside the army premises yesterday. They were delivered couple of days ago according to the Jawans. Photography was prohibited, hence couldn't click pictures.

Then there are other small but regular customers of Gypsy like Coal India Ltd(CIL), NCC, CRPF, etc.

The upcoming crash norms will pose a serious threat to the legendary off-roader though.

[NiInJa]

I guess the sudden spurt in Bolero is related to ban on BS3 engined vehicles. Dealers might have offered good deals to clear their stocks in Tier2 and Tier3 cities and towns.

Hope Hexa numbers falling are only due to production and supply constraints.
Petrol cars are back in high demand, just look at Baleno, Ignis and City. Compared to that, Diesel car sales haven't growth is not as rapid (With exception of Innova, Fortuner and Brezza)

[sahibrain]

Baleno has really "sprung" in volumes. Does it have something to do with the "RS" being launched?

Good to see Tata gaining momentum in the market. My guess is in the next 3-4 months they will dislodge Mahindra and reclaim the 3rd position.

[OrangeCar]

Tata Hexa - Flagship, errr... flagsunk..! (sells approx 1/3rd of XUV500 - a 5 year old product!)

Maruti Ignis - This is a stunner. 5k and getting stronger, Maruti has mastered the art of hitting things out of the park.

Maruti Baleno - 16K. Pure respect for Maruti, master of hatchbacks.

Maruti Swift & Dzire, each @ 15K - Even after knowing a new model is on its way!

Hyundai Creta @ 10K & Toyota Innova @ 7K- Makes me wonder if there is anything called 'being overpriced'!

Honda BRV - Its a sea-saw affair! sometimes more than 1K, sometimes less! Seems makers are pushing dealers to take stock!

Endeavour @ 370 vs Fortuner @ 2060 - it is all in the brand and ASS.

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Toyota - one segment wonder, continues to be so.

Maruti - once a King, always a king.

Hyundai - getting as smart as Maruti.

Tata - Dude on paper, dud on road!

Mahindra - Can create more variants out of a car, than number of star's in the sky.

Honda - 'Mein Kaun Hoon.. Mein Kahan Hoon..' - reminds me of a old softdrink ad by Sachin Tendulkar.

Ford - Flashes of briliance.

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Overall, no major surprises. Good cars have done better, not so good ones have done worse.

[abhishek46]

Originally Posted by OrangeCar

Tata Hexa - Flagship, errr... flagsunk..! (sells approx 1/3rd of XUV500 - a 5 year old product!)

There are reports that Hexa has waiting periods and more than 60% of it's bookings are for Automatic variants (Which is sourced from some where else).

We should allow the production/supply chain to at least stabilize.
Why not wait for some more time before branding something as a failure?

[jetti]

Another zone and state wise thread did get posted but that was for 6 months.

Originally Posted by Khushrav

Also, how many cars are getting registered in Daman, Jharkhand, Delhi, Chandigarh etc. which have extremely low registration cost. Will GST have any impact on this?

It will have some impact on the VAT and excise part. But major part of the difference comes from Road Tax which is out of GST purview.

[twin_turbo]

I seriously wonder what Ford is up to. They lack a good Sedan (which replaces the Fiesta), and a good premium Sedan (Like the Focus/Fusion sold outside India) and some low end SUVs like the Escape in their stable. What surprises me the most is Ford has such a wide portfolio outside India, which can be brought to India. Doesn't Ford consider India as a serious market? Looking forward to the Ecosport Facelift which is badly due now.

[Carma2017]

The spurt in Baleno numbers owes to the scaling up of production volumes at Gujrat plant. Expect volumes to shoot further.
The Ignis is inching towards it's target volumes of 6000 units per month. That is the target suppliers were given.

[torquing_points]

Originally Posted by twin_turbo

I seriously wonder what Ford is up to. They lack a good Sedan (which replaces the Fiesta), and a good premium Sedan (Like the Focus/Fusion sold outside India) and some low end SUVs like the Escape in their stable. What surprises me the most is Ford has such a wide portfolio outside India, which can be brought to India. Doesn't Ford consider India as a serious market? Looking forward to the Ecosport Facelift which is badly due now.

They're even struggling in segments where they have product leadership like the endy!! It takes special talent to have an internationally recognized superior car like the endy, sell it at a discount to the fortuner (which is below endys segment in many markets) and STILL be at a fraction of fortuner sales!!

It's all about the purchase, service and ownership experience which is among the worst in the country. Having owned both, Clearly, Toyota india does a much better job than ford india in this aspect. Toyota is very customer centric. Ford-- clearly not.

Seems to be a corporate leadership problem at the india level -- the kind which takes GM india almost out of business even though they had great cars at one point (Cruze, captiva, optra, astra were all superior products).

Toyota, maruti, hyundai have shown for many years that a good enough product will sell if the customer has faith in the company.

[deetjohn]

Glad to see Baleno overtaking the DZire. Long may it continue. Will be happy if the market continues to ditch mundane sedans for proper hatchbacks.

Ciaz will be quite interesting to follow from now on!

Quite sad to see the numbers for Hexa. I really hope it is due to some supply-chain constraints and not due to lack of demand. Not seeing that many on road either, it really deserves to sell more.

Rapid facelift has really worked its magic. Skoda in fact is doing quite well overall. Wonder where they could be if the service and support is sorted.

Did someone take delivery of a Jetta from factory the German way?

Originally Posted by abhishek46

2. Ignis seems to be stabilizing around 5K mark. No very bad, not good either (By MSIL standards).

Isn't the Ignis doing quite well for itself?

It is sold from Nexa, so not available everywhere and it is not aggressively priced. And the Ritz - the closest model from Maruti stable which we can compare to the Ignis never used to sell this much.

[jayram.r]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Thanks Aditya for the March sales data,

Fiscal year 2016-17 sees a robust growth in the auto industry. Barring Mahindra’s all have positive growth contributing to the 9.09 % Y-O-Y growth.

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Topping the list with Maruti Suzuki, followed by Hyundai sees no immediate threat to their positions,
Market Share - Fiscal 2016-17
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These market share figures can be a bit misleading? Lot of products from Maruti stable have entered commercial segment while most products from say a Hyundai are private users segment. Is there any data for like to like comparison of market share? Or do you think the pattern would be similar?

[nishsingh]

Originally Posted by abhishek46

There are reports that Hexa has waiting periods and more than 60% of it's bookings are for Automatic variants (Which is sourced from some where else).

We should allow the production/supply chain to at least stabilize.
Why not wait for some more time before branding something as a failure?

With sales plummeting from close to 1500 units in January to below 1000 in March - a monthly decline of 21%, I find it very difficult to believe that supply chain woes are to blame. If Tata misjudged the market demand, and supply chain woes are indeed the culprit, than Tata is to blame.

Either which way, Hexa was one of the most exciting launches this year, and the numbers for the first three months definitely highlight a huge problem.