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Originally Posted by Yusha The change that i wish to see is newer and better looks along with an improved chassis. They can use the Swift platform to make a three box saloon, with a more powerful engine. The car should have good handling and ride and a joy to drive. This is the car I am looking for from Maruti. |
Newer looks is a good idea - I have liked the Esteem's looks, but agree that over the years it has become so common that a change might be good. But if the new looks are going to be Swift-based, I would rather they retain the old looks. The Swift has just odd looks - not necessarily good looks. More powerful engine ? Already it is the leader of the pack, in its segment. And you need more ? Also it will enter the higher Baleno segment if made any more powerful - not a good thing for MUL. Quote:
Originally Posted by Yusha As far as people replacing an Esteem with an Esteem, i cant say why they do that? Its just that they cant\dont want to spend more money. |
You got it very wrong. If someone has 5-lakh odd rupees to spend on an Esteem, it does not take much to extend that budget by some thousands to reach the Baleno Lxi or Accent GLE or base model Aveo / Fiesta. Repeat purchases are made due to the initial usage experience having been awesome. One of the guys who did this repeat purchase was a top manager at an IT firm in Chennai (used to see him at the smoking zone at TIDEL park) and he figured in a news magazine where he mentioned that he did not see a worthwhile upgrade to his Esteem and was going to go for a new Esteem itself. I am sure he has loads of dough, and money was never the factor there. Quote:
Originally Posted by Yusha Its with the way these manufaturers foist old technology on us and get away with it. Esteem was replaced in other markets in 1988 and they launched it in India in 1989-90 with the c**** 50 BHP enigne, when they had the 62 BHP fuel injected engine with them then also. Why? |
Everything is done with a reason. On this forum I always see some people cribbing about car makers not introducing the exact same specs that they launch in the US or Europe. But have they bothered to think whether the consumer profile is the same in India as it is in the West or how the market differs in both places ? Those are hardcore car markets where a car is just a transportation tool, not a luxury like it is seen here. They use cars for a few years, trade it in and move on to new cars. We generally use a thing till it works, then use it some more by repairing and dump it only when it becomes too much trouble. You mentioned a 2-door, 1.6L Swift which you would like to have here. I am sure there are a few others also in India who would be potential buyers, but then they will be quite negligible and not enough of a crowd for MUL to make it viable. FE is a big thing here and high-bhp, high-torque stuff are only the dreams of a few enthusiasts. The Palio 1.6 is a good example - nice looking car, great power. But how many did it sell ? Quote:
Originally Posted by Yusha The Baleno was launched in 1999. It has been replaced by the Liana but still sells in India. Why? Why isnt it being replaced by the Liana in India also?? I know and you guys know it will sell. Its a good car. |
A replacement need not always end up as a good decision - Innova and NHC are good examples. A Honda could get away with it, but not everyone else. Regarding the Baleno, MUL is planning to come out with a new one (we have snaps of it on the forum). But what will be different in it ? Most probably the looks - the engine might still be the same for all we know. And looks are subjective. So what is the big deal about replacing cars ? For me, a replacement has to be better than the previous one technologically - better FE, lower emissions, more safety, etc are important. Just getting a new look car does not qualify as an upgrade. |