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Old 19th August 2019, 22:47   #31
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Re: Hybrids - A transition phase to EVs in India

I see this just as a lobby becasue the Ertiga diesel and Ciaz diesel aren't ready and will be affected the most. Unless it is a hybrid car capable of moving on battery power alone for at least 10-15 km (at city speeds,) I think it shouldn't receive any tax breaks.

But yes, he is right. The cost of EVs is going to be too high.
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Mahindra's and TATA Motors were against bringing Hybrids and wanted to directly migrate to EV Space.


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The issue of hybrids split the automobile industry right down the middle. On one side are Maruti Suzuki, Toyota, Honda and Volvo, who are advocating faster promotion and adoption of hybrid technology. And, the other side is made up of Tata Motors and Mahindra & Mahindra rooting for bypassing hybrids and instead going for pure electric mobility.
Now TATA motors come to reality, and is open to add Hybrids to its portfolio.

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With all due respect hybrid is an evolution of an internal combustion engine. And hybrid is going to come and here to stay. We need hybrid solutions as diesel share will reduce and petrol share will increase and it is required to improve fuel efficiency, which is going to drive the CO2
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Right now we are in a situation like the transition to Unleaded. Only you could sacrifice the Cat and get through. What happens if an EV is running out of juice? I actually managed to drive from Lucknow to Manipal in a Cat car without sacrificing the cat.
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Right now we are in a situation like the transition to Unleaded. Only you could sacrifice the Cat and get through. What happens if an EV is running out of juice? I actually managed to drive from Lucknow to Manipal in a Cat car without sacrificing the cat.
I always propagated this thought from past five years that SERIAL HYBRID should be the path to electric cars in India. It is a single step process.

1. Instead of Full electric vehicles with 40 to 50 or 75 KWh batteries, start with 15KWh batteries and a range extender engine, SERIAL HYBRID Configuration. As and when battery prices drop down, increase the rating of the battery capacity to 20 or 25KWh, 30 and so on, until range extender engine becomes irrelevant. Range extender generator engine, which is a single cylinder or two cylinder highly efficient fixed RPM engine tuned for efficiency and nothing else, will be used by customer only when needed to charge batteries on emergency basis. Because, Indians know electricity is cheaper than petrol..

Until we have big companies like tata chemicals, or reliance industries, LG chemicals start plant in India for manufacturing batteries, I donot see electric vehicle taking off...
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This is indeed good news. It makes sense to have a hybrid petrol occupy the current diesel slot after BS6 and then the diesel will move one slot above that. In the meantime it will help manufacturers and suppliers to get the infrastructure in place for the ramp up to fully electric.
Please only introduce 48v hybrids as a minimum. Then the next step could be plug in hybrids with bigger batteries that can do short low speed runs in full electric mode. This will also help in getting the charging infrastructure up and running.
Maybe even a standard spec for swappable battery packs. One for 2 wheelers and one for cars
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Do let me know if hybrids (specifically the Camry Hybrid) are allowed to ply for only 15 years (petrol) in NCR. Or are they exempt from this 15 (petrol)/10 (diesel) year limit.
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Honda starts the trend in 'mainstream Hybrid ' - Honda City e:HEV officially confirmed.




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As Honda being the first manufacturer in India to bring Hybris to the mainstream segment more Japanese companies like Suzuki and Toyota will venture into this technology for India,

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In FY23, there will be a hybrid City sedan from Honda and hybrid SUVs from both Maruti Suzuki and Toyota Kirloskar.
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But a bigger play on hybrids will come from Toyota-Suzuki combine in India. The much-awaited midsize SUV from Toyota is expected to come with a localised hybrid solution.

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- With hybrids, more opportunity to users to drive stress free, without range anxiety

- It's really one of the good solutions at this time - the most reachable and, perhaps, the most practical model

- These hybrids may come at a premium of 15-20% over conventional petrol cars, but may also deliver 35-40% higher fuel efficiency

-Introducing hybrids will eventually lead to higher localisation of parts for electric vehicles, making them more accessible to a larger customer base.

- Eventually leading to EV's as the situation improves on infrastructure and affordability, but not before 2025.

- In a country where 70% of the power is generated by coal-fired plants, "strong hybrids give the least amount of well-to-wheel carbon emissions.

- As this 70% starts coming down and more renewable energy starts coming in, will start seeing more and more EVs

- Architecture on electrified vehicles - whether hybrid, plug-in hybrid or electric - is essentially the same. They have a lot of common components and we are trying to see what is best for each country.

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Industry experts believe the passenger vehicle segment will probably be the last to switch to EVs, due to the steep cost difference and need for stable power supplies.

Even at 30% EV penetration, the impact on the fuel import bill will not be significant, said an industry expert.
Discussions are on with Society of Indian Automobile Manufacturers to seek rationalisation in taxes on powerful hybrid vehicles.


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