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Old 3rd January 2020, 11:50   #16
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Default re: Rumour: No AWD & AT option on Mahindra XUV500 BS6, EDIT - AT option to be continued.

The new XUV of 2020 is totally different than this BS6 XUV.

For sure, its a temporary arrangement to have the current XUV in production to be equipped with BS6 engines. This week already M&M has started training the ASC staff on their BS6 engines. So they are absolutely sure to get the BS6 engine in the current XUV and continue to sell it until such time, the new XUV is ready or some variant play to keep new platform XUV as well as old platform XUV on sale simultaneously.

So the way I see this is - to fill the gap of April 1 - New XUV launch (approximately 5 months or so) they will sell some 3k-5k units. Of these units, practically how many AT and AWDs will go? Very less and they probably thought of spending their energy is testing some of the XUV 2020 next gen platform elements in this current gen BS6 XUV than going with any R&D to fit AT or spend energy in AWD offering. The folks who want AT + AWD will surely wait until the next gen XUV details are available - or else buy other competitive options.

Now as per some rumours and some birdies that are active - Next Gen XUV (2020 new platform) is supposed to have AT and AWD at launch itself. Deliveries may be 2-3 months delayed. And the BS6 variant of current platform will allow them to do some experimentations on the features and market response of the 2020 next gen platform. Same way as they did in March 2015 - they refreshed XUV with some features of the XUV they launched as New XUV in April.
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Default re: Rumour: No AWD & AT option on Mahindra XUV500 BS6, EDIT - AT option to be continued.

Another sad day of Indian automobile industry. Another loss of a real SUV. It's really sad to see that Indians just want the looks of an SUV without actual capability (Eg:- Tata Harrier, Vitara Brezza etc). Any SUV without at least AWD is just a car which is a Wannabe-SUV. The experience offered by 4X4 can't be ever matched by the likes of FWD cars. It can't even off-road properly. I am really sad to see foreign markets get to see real SUV's where as Indians are still stuck with these Wannabe-SUVs.
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Default re: Rumour: No AWD & AT option on Mahindra XUV500 BS6, EDIT - AT option to be continued.

XUV5OO BS6 specs, variants detailed before launch.

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For the BS6 variant, Mahindra will be using the same 2.2 litre diesel motor, however it will be adding in a DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter) and an SCR system. These additions will help Mahindra to make the SUV BS6 emission norms compliant. Power output figures are expected to remain constant as on the BS4 variant, that would mean the motor will be churning out 155hp & 360Nm of max torque.
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XUV5OO BS6 specs, variants detailed before launch.
The quoted article does specifically mention that the BSVI XUV500 will have the Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) and the Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) assembly installed.

In my view, the position of the SCR assembly or the kit (near the rear axle/close to the exhaust) is likely to cause engineering "interference" with the AWD hardware and any "re"-engineering costs may not be worth it for Mahindra, given the impending launch of the new XUV 2020 in few months' time. Hence the probable rationale to drop the AWD from its BSVI compliant cars for the time being.

As for dropping the AT feature, again, Mahindra may not see it worthwhile to probably figure out integration of the electronics bit between the modified BSVI ECU along with the transmission bits.

For Mahindra, it looks like just a question of "ticking the BSVI box" for the time being, till the new XUV hits the roads.

They will have to pay some attention to the advertising part though, since a new buyer after 1st April could be surprised to suddenly see these features dropped from the list!
Mahindra might have to deal with that carefully.
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Default re: Rumour: No AWD & AT option on Mahindra XUV500 BS6, EDIT - AT option to be continued.

What will be the impact on people who have purchased XUV AT in the past? I understand one has extended warranty. But for people who are out of it, will there be an issue with parts availability - specially gearbox, as the model will be out of production?
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Default re: Rumour: No AWD & AT option on Mahindra XUV500 BS6, EDIT - AT option to be continued.

Got a call from Mahindra Dealer that the prices of the BS6 XUV500 will be same as BSIV.

He also confirmed that the AT is not available.
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Another sad day of Indian automobile industry. Another loss of a real SUV. It's really sad to see that Indians just want the looks of an SUV without actual capability (Eg:- Tata Harrier, Vitara Brezza etc). Any SUV without at least AWD is just a car which is a Wannabe-SUV. The experience offered by 4X4 can't be ever matched by the likes of FWD cars. It can't even off-road properly. I am really sad to see foreign markets get to see real SUV's where as Indians are still stuck with these Wannabe-SUVs.
This is a trend world over. Most matured markets are also skipping on awd capability. Also note the import duties in these countries is very low as they donít have local manufacturing so oem can import easily. That will not work in India. Also the cost of car as a percentage of income in India is unreasonably high and couple with fact most homes mine included can only afford one car.
I donít need awd, may be a duster like will do at best. Very few people prefer and it does not make economic sense to cater with our tax structure
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Default re: Rumour: No AWD & AT option on Mahindra XUV500 BS6, EDIT - AT option to be continued.

Mahindra dealers are now accepting bookings for the BS6 iteration of the existing XUV500 for a token sum of Rs 20,000/-.

As per the limited information I have - variants & colour options will be carried over as they are, except for AT, AWD & the W3 variant(s) which shall be discontinued.

Regarding pricing, the M&M sources are saying the same thing which was reported by the media a while back - around a lakh rupees more than present pricing.

This pits the BS6 XUV500's W7 MT variant squarely against the Tata Harrier's XM MT variant at Rs 15 lakh ex-showroom mark.
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Default re: Rumour: No AWD & AT option on Mahindra XUV500 BS6, EDIT - AT option to be continued.

Like mentioned earlier its more of a packaging issue than anything else. Accommodating a DPF and SCR unit in the already tight engine bay of the XUV is challenging since the engine is traverse mounted and they need space for additional hardware. Given that their AT and AWD hardware comes from a different source and the low volumes, it wont make sense to redesign these and especially the AT takes up space since its FWD and everything has to happen inside that engine bay itself. Hence they temporarily decided to ditch these options and might bring them later or with the new version coming up. Then they will have greater freedom and time to incorporate AT and AWD since the platform itself changes.
The story of cars like Innova and fortuner is different since they have engines longitudinally mounted and the transmission goes all the way to the cabin area. In this setup the engine bay is less cramped and the design itself was already made to accommodate DPF and SCR. Hence they didnt not have to drop features.
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Default re: Rumour: No AWD & AT option on Mahindra XUV500 BS6, EDIT - AT option to be continued.

An exclusive sneak peek into the minor BS6 changes coming in the XUV500 & Mahindra's lineup:

No AWD on the Mahindra XUV500 BS6 (AT option continues)-1w.jpg

No AWD on the Mahindra XUV500 BS6 (AT option continues)-5w.jpg

No AWD on the Mahindra XUV500 BS6 (AT option continues)-4w.jpg

No AWD on the Mahindra XUV500 BS6 (AT option continues)-2w.jpg

No AWD on the Mahindra XUV500 BS6 (AT option continues)-3w.jpg

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This is a trend world over. Most matured markets are also skipping on awd capability. Also note the import duties in these countries is very low as they donít have local manufacturing so oem can import easily. That will not work in India. Also the cost of car as a percentage of income in India is unreasonably high and couple with fact most homes mine included can only afford one car.
I donít need awd, may be a duster like will do at best. Very few people prefer and it does not make economic sense to cater with our tax structure
I disagree with you Aniyo in that regard. I am hailing from a hilly area and the AWD/4X4 is absolutely necessary, ESP in India since we have lots of Hill/Forest area ESP in the northeast and states like Kerala, J&K. I have seen several times people with some Psudo-"SUV" get royally stuck in steep climbs or in mud.* Also, 4X4 or AWD offers better control on the road as well and with a monsoon like ours, it's always better to have 4X4 or AWD vehicles. The companies ignores these obvious facts and the under informed Sales people pushing boring things like internet connected cars and almost everyone is content to have cars which only looks like SUVs. Also, almost all cars like Seltos has at least a*AWD/4X4 variant in international markets. I feel like we, Indians are still catching up on the finer aspects of automobiles still now.
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Default re: Rumour: No AWD & AT option on Mahindra XUV500 BS6, EDIT - AT option to be continued.

Mahindra & Mahindra has silently updated the official XUV500 website.

https://www.mahindraxuv500.com/

As expected, the W3 variant has been discontinued. There will be 4 variants on offer now - W5, W7, W9 & W11(O). The AT transmission will continue to be offered in the top 3 variants.

No AWD on the Mahindra XUV500 BS6 (AT option continues)-new500.jpg

https://www.mahindraxuv500.com/compa...aspx?id=diesel

Power & torque figures remain the same, as are the features across variants. Dimensions & other specs see no changes either.

https://www.mahindraxuv500.com/?id=specification

Pricing is still undisclosed, possibly till the lockdown is officially over.

No AWD on the Mahindra XUV500 BS6 (AT option continues)-new5002.jpg

Overall, it's just an exercise to make the existing gen of the XUV500 BS6 compliant until the all-new XUV500 takes over from early 2021.

Official new XUV500 2020 brochure

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Default Re: No AWD on the Mahindra XUV500 BS6 (AT option continues)

BS6 Mahindra XUV500 online bookings open at Rs 5,000

Source : CarWale

https://www.carwale.com/news/bs6-mah...en-at-rs-5000/
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Default Re: No AWD on the Mahindra XUV500 BS6 (AT option continues)

Read somewhere that price is expected to increase by around 1 lac
That would be steep and may go against VFM proposition that XUV500 holds and is it's USP, considering the Next-gen has been long delayed.
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Default Re: No AWD on the Mahindra XUV500 BS6 (AT option continues)

Birdie tweets that the pricing of the BS6 XUV500 variants will be at a premium of Rs 30,000/- over it's BS4 counterparts.

This would mean that the BS6 range would start from Rs 13.20 lakhs, ex-showroom.

BS6 Pricing (vs BS4) :-
W5 MT = 13.20L (12.90)
W7 MT = 14.48L (14.18)
W9 MT = 16.18L (15.88)
W11 O MT = 17.71L (17.41)
W7 AT = 15.69L (15.39)
W9 AT = 17.40L (17.10)
W11 O AT = 18.92L (18.62)
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