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Originally Posted by INNOVATOR While I am no votary for heavy taxation, being a typical salaried middle class taxpayer, I would rather have fuel taxed obnoxiously so that the brunt is borne by a much larger cross section of citizenry than the precious 3% who pay income taxes. Should the govt earn its revenues in an equitable manner through raising taxes on goods, taxation would be truly consumption driven and will hopefully bring down the direct taxes burden. For the folks complaining about high fuel prices, spare a thought for the farmer in Punjab or Haryana or any of the other states in India, who despite having hundreds of acres in landholding pays nothing at all in taxes and claims free electricity and loan waivers to boot..... sorry guys I’ve had enough of subsidising thieves and cheats.... pl. note that the intent was NOT to cast aspersions on only the farming community but the entire non-tax paying lot including business people, professionals and politicos who evade taxes to the max extent possible. |
Please look beyond mere numbers, there is an entire socio-economic data behind this. 97 % are tax evaders and 3% run the country is not really the case and far from the truth, let me parse some mota-moti data.
Less than 3 percent file income tax return in India
Only 3.5 crore people, or 2.89 percent of the country's total population of more than 121 crore, file income tax return in India
Out of the 121 crore people might be someone's 1 year old son and a 95 year old grandma who might be earning no income. Neither need to file taxes. In fact, there are only 47 crore people who are actually working, which means only 47 crore have any sort of income.
Of these almost half are employed in agriculture. That is pretty much exempt from income tax. Our nation, like many others, have an idealistic attitude towards agriculture - a hangover from the agricultural past. We somehow assume that farmers are doing a more important job than rest of us, which I believe they are and they should not be taxed. Food is a survival item and people who make it need to be provided the best of everything, but anyway that is just my point of view.
In any case, that leaves only about 23 crore workers who work in factories and the service sector.
To pay income tax you need to be earning Rs. 5 lakhs or more per year now. Because, we don't want to tax the poor. Now, how many of the workers do you see around you make Rs. 41000+ or more per month? How about your maid? Not likely. How about the assistant sitting in the shop? Not likely.
Out of these about 15 % I assume must be making more than 5 lakhs per year, that leaves you with a realistic number of the people who are going to file taxes this year.
Sure there is tax evasion and lots of businesses and businessmen evade tax but its no where near what is being peddled around. Even people who earn less than 5 lakhs pay indirect taxes in whatever they spend, every rupee that goes out of their pocket, some amount it is tax. Wheels of an economy run when people have money to spend, not when they are taxed to death.
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Originally Posted by fiestarry I suppose Truman's sign solved everything. He was the same President who dropped Atomic Bombs on Japan well after Japan's forces had been defeated merely to test the effect of such a bomb on human settlements. A small matter of lakhs of civilian deaths. Choose your heroes wisely. |
Sorry, Truman dropped the bomb because main land Japan refused to give up after being defeated on all the territories that were not theirs, there is a difference. Invasion and defeating Japan on its mainland would have cost lakhs of lives. Not justifying an atom bomb but if Japan had it, it would have dropped it too.
Let me copy paste some lines
"While the United States began conventional bombing of Japan as early as 1942, the mission did not begin in earnest until mid-1944. Between April 1944 and August, 1945, an estimated 333,000 Japanese people were killed and 473,000 more wounded in air raids. A single firebombing attack on Tokyo in March 1945 killed more than 80,000 people. Truman later remarked, “Despite their heavy losses at Okinawa and the firebombing of Tokyo, the Japanese refused to surrender. The saturation bombing of Japan took much fiercer tolls and wrought far and away more havoc than the atomic bomb. Far and away. The firebombing of Tokyo was one of the most terrible things that ever happened, and they didn't surrender after that although Tokyo was almost completely destroyed.”
In August 1945, it was clear that conventional bombing was not effective"
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Originally Posted by giri1.8 Even I thought of the same, but then I need to start paying again after 21 days! Most people would be void of any income during this 21 day gap and will struggle to fill even a liter of fuel. |
Totally, these guys can't think 21 days ahead too.
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Originally Posted by sachinayak And as someone rightly pointed out, the government does it shamelessly, coz it knows it can get away with this. The current one a little more brazenly, coz it knows it does not have any opposition/competition. |
Exactly this.