[Everlearner]

Originally Posted by ghodlur

Will movement to a state different from registered state where the employer wouldnt have an office still attract tax of that state. For eg Vehicle registered in MH if moves to TL but no employer office available there, will TL road tax in full be applicable

The regulatory requirement is for getting the car registered only. Once the car is registered, the registration will still be valid across India even if you change jobs or your company closes some offices or you move to s different state

[Podilam]

Originally Posted by nighthawk117

After two weeks of discussion & follow-ups with dealer & occasionally with RTO, i was able to get BH series registration from Noida RTO. Although government notification states the requirement of Form-60 alone, different states are asking different documentations it seems. Like Sauravm, i was also asked to produce the GST Certificate, which no company would just share with its employees. But in the end, i had to give ID card, salary slip, Form-60 on company letter head along with the address of four offices. GST number was not there in the letterhead but it is possible to get it online if needed.

Congratulations. Trying to understand. Did you buy the vehicle in Bangalore and registered it Noida? Does the vehicle has to be present in Noida at the time registration? Can you help us with the details of the discussions with dealer and the RTO?

[banana]

With another thought,
As the RTO folks for BLR stated that private sector employees work on contract so, they are not considering them for BH series registration.
Will the same reason hold if any "other state registered" vehicle is stopped by traffic police in BLR (sub universe) and the driver/owner is able to prove that they work in private sector (hence assumed to be on contract), therefore their stay is not permanent and hence should not be asked for re-registering in KA. (this is completely invalid for someone who is native).

PS: Happy New Year's Eve

[84.monsoon]

I hope the BH registration picks up speed and is implemented throughout the country and also for all buyers, not just certain categories. Imagine a world where:

• Older cars which may not meet emission thresholds of tier-1 cities can seamlessly be moved/sold in smaller towns across the country where air quality may not be so bad an issue.
• Nation-wide rentals are possible, where vehicles can be rented from any part of the country and returned in any other part of the country seamlessly and without cost. That will be a great boost to road tripping and tourism in general.
• Lease schemes can be accelerated, where one can lease a car and return in short periods say, 6-18 months, and a nation-wide leasing company can deploy the car to any other part of the country.
• The whole machinery for re-registering out-of-state vehicles can be disbanded, and along with that a major part of corruption at RTOs that goes with it.

All of this is going to improve asset utilization - the value locked up in our cars today restricted by artificial state boundaries across the country and can be unleashed to a larger extent.

[nighthawk117]

Originally Posted by Podilam

Congratulations. Trying to understand. Did you buy the vehicle in Bangalore and registered it Noida? Does the vehicle has to be present in Noida at the time registration? Can you help us with the details of the discussions with dealer and the RTO?

I bought the car in Noida as i no longer stay in Bangalore. While technically it would be possible to buy in Bangalore and register in Noida, there could be a lot of bureaucratic headaches.

Originally Posted by Podilam

Does the vehicle has to be present in Noida at the time registration?

I'm not sure on the legislations surrounding this, but as per my understanding, the vehicle needs to be in the RTO jurisdiction.

As with all government circulars and amendments, there were confusions on the documentations needed for BH registration. Most of the dealers haven't registered a car under BH, so they had the lack of clarity on the process & documentations.

The dealer i was conversing with checked with RTO first to see if they started offering BH registrations. On receiving the affirmative reply, i submitted the copies of the documentations for BH with the dealer to get it verified with the RTO. After few days, I was told that the documents were insufficient. They asked for the GST certificate, which is complicating a government notification that only needed Form 60. I explained to them that GST certificate is not something you can get quickly from any company. They informed they'll check with RTO again. Meanwhile I directly went to the RTO and they validated all the copies and told me that the documentations were enough to get BH registration. Relayed the same to the dealer and who also got the confirmation by the time.
So this is the short version of my experience getting BH registration.

While it would always be a bit difficult for early adopters of anything, i do believe the process will get faster and easier with time. With more people opting for BH registration it would be a matter of time before most state governments start implementing it.

PS: The number plate garners a lot of attention with lot of folks taking photos of the same.

[rohitsaxena]

Originally Posted by Podilam

Congratulations. Trying to understand. Did you buy the vehicle in Bangalore and registered it Noida? Does the vehicle has to be present in Noida at the time registration? Can you help us with the details of the discussions with dealer and the RTO?

If vehicle is bought from one state and intended to be registered in different state then invoicing will be done differently, instead of SGST and CGST, it should be done with IGST component.

Originally Posted by Podilam

Does the vehicle has to be present in Noida at the time registration? Can you help us with the details of the discussions with dealer and the RTO?

If registration is directly done at dealer point then with new rules (notified in 2016 but still not all states have implemented it. Karnataka has started from Jan 01, 2022) the onus of physical verification is with dealer. But in case of registering in different state it has to be taken to the RTO physically.

I am expecting this do be done away soon, as Vahan portal is common (shared database) so a dealer from one state should be able to register vehicle in another state directly, the reason for allowing dealer point registration is that new vehicle is already having an inspection certificate , homologation certificate from manufacturer so physical inspection of vehicle is practically useless for new vehicle.

[Podilam]

Originally Posted by rohitsaxena

If vehicle is bought from one state and intended to be registered in different state then invoicing will be done differently, instead of SGST and CGST, it should be done with IGST component.



If registration is directly done at dealer point then with new rules (notified in 2016 but still not all states have implemented it. Karnataka has started from Jan 01, 2022) the onus of physical verification is with dealer. But in case of registering in different state it has to be taken to the RTO physically.

I am expecting this do be done away soon, as Vahan portal is common (shared database) so a dealer from one state should be able to register vehicle in another state directly, the reason for allowing dealer point registration is that new vehicle is already having an inspection certificate , homologation certificate from manufacturer so physical inspection of vehicle is practically useless for new vehicle.

If I am not wrong GST component is 28% + 22% CES on SUVs. Is IGST
calculated with the same numbers? or would it be higher?

[rohitsaxena]

Originally Posted by Podilam

If I am not wrong GST component is 28% + 22% CES on SUVs. Is IGST
calculated with the same numbers? or would it be higher?

The 28% component is GST so it will remain same, either 14% SGST + 14% CGST or entire 28% as IGST

[banana]

Please feed my curiosity

Is the situation for BH registration in KA an eligible candidate for RTI?

Some questions that I may have
Why partially implemented ? (what grounds)

If (every) private sector employee is a contract worker, how do you validate without asking the org/company about employment type?

If someone is being denied BH series registration on basis of "contractual" job, can they continue to use vehicles registered in other states without having to re-register? (They are on contract, they may get fired at any moment, how can they know how long they will be in the job, or this state ?)

Also suggest, how does RTI work, I have no idea, I'm just curious, or did I just provide someone else a reason to file RTI

[novice]

The definition given by Karnataka government for private sector employees is absurd. Even if one agrees with their definition, it is contract employees who need BH the most because they may have to often move to different states for work.

They bend the rules in such a way that it always benefits the government the most. There have absolutely no concern for the common people.

[banana]

Originally Posted by novice

The definition given by Karnataka government for private sector employees is absurd. Even if one agrees with their definition, it is contract employees who need BH the most because they may have to often move to different states for work.

Precisely,

Everyone is making politically correct statements,

The first letter on 30th Nov said, follow the notification.

The notice on 20th Dec had three bullet points, this letter did not mention that RTO is "NOT to process" for private sector employees. [I'm not sure, I read the translated version, so let me blame google translate before you point a finger]

RTO folks say, we are doing it only for the three categories because they read it that way.

Media/news does not point a finger at any of the officials. They are playing along.

In the rarest of the cases, when they mention, they try to keep the font size of negative 10pt.

Here is my symbol of appreciation for most part of the system .

[quantobigboot]

Copying my query from another thread
Hey folks! Planning to take delivery of our XUV soon. Has anyone got the BH registration for their XUV? I don't think it has rolled out in Haryana yet. Is their any way to get the BH registration from another state like UP? Will there be any complications?

[Mafia]

Originally Posted by banana

RTO folks say, we are doing it only for the three categories because they read it that way.

Media/news does not point a finger at any of the officials. They are playing along.

In the rarest of the cases, when they mention, they try to keep the font size of negative 10pt.

Here is my symbol of appreciation for most part of the system .

I suppose the tax-paying citizen of this country has never been a priority as they have jobs and money and need no political alliance to survive or run a business.

And, it is precisely this group most of us belong to and we have voice.

Things will take time for implementation for us. We have to take the support of the judiciary and social media.

[Torque_Cruiser]

Originally Posted by sauravm_89

<Super psyched as I write this>
So after a lot of sweat, tears and running around, I finally got a BH registration number plate! (State: New Delhi)

Congratulations on getting this done despite several obstacles. Quick question - Did they take the invoice value to calculate taxes or ex showroom value

[sauravm_89]

Originally Posted by Torque_Cruiser

Congratulations on getting this done despite several obstacles. Quick question - Did they take the invoice value to calculate taxes or ex showroom value

thanks! They took the ex-showroom value to calculate (that includes GST of course)