Why did you buy a diesel?

Kool_Kid · 5th June 2007, 12:08

1) Milage I drive close to 80 KM per Day to office Delhi to Noida
2) Pickup . VDi just z00000ms past other cars
3) peace of mind .. i know gov will find it harder to increase the price of diesel .... [

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VooDoo · 5th June 2007, 12:20

No! NO! No! can't blame me for that!

it wasn't my fault...
Company car..had to be an Indica.. what else could I have chosen ?? LSI!! No way!

I commute 55 kms a day, 1100 bucks for a tankful, 17+ km average with 50% AC ... what else on earth do you want!!

Change the oil+filters etc.. every 5K and you are happy at least for 100K Km.

akroy · 5th June 2007, 15:39

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Originally Posted by dadu

and not to forget, most of the heavy duty vehicles too use Diesel, be it trucks, Buses or mid range load carriers, even the Indian Railways use diesel engines and I read somewhere that its the CRDI technology there too.

He He He...Are u sure?

What I knew is Diesel Engines are also called as "Diesel Electric Locos"...A generator running on Diesel produce electricity which runs an electric motor / engine which in turn runs the Engine....

Pls dont comapre the TDIs and CRDis with the giant Locos

Abhi

dadu · 5th June 2007, 16:02

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Originally Posted by akroy

He He He...Are u sure?

What I knew is Diesel Engines are also called as "Diesel Electric Locos"...A generator running on Diesel produce electricity which runs an electric motor / engine which in turn runs the Engine....

Pls dont comapre the TDIs and CRDis with the giant Locos

Abhi

the transmission is electric, see details here and I would be insane to compare a loco to a car, I was talking about the use of CRDI as a technology in IR diesel engines.

srishiva · 5th June 2007, 16:23

I dont see CRDI mentioned anywhere. Its direct injection and not common rail. As akroy said, the diesel drives a generator that drives the loco.

dadu · 5th June 2007, 16:33

This was just for reference on the IR diesel engine and since the WDM2 is the most common of the engines used by them. As I said earlier, I read about CRDI in IR somewhere and someone else also confirmed.

DieselFan · 5th June 2007, 16:51

I like Diesel for the following reasons in the order of preference -

1. Torque
2. Cost/KMs per litre
3. Long life (of the car)
4. Long range or longer continuous driving

appuchan · 5th June 2007, 17:45

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Originally Posted by DieselFan

I like Diesel for the following reasons in the order of preference -

1. Torque
2. Cost/KMs per litre
3. Long life (of the car)
4. Long range or longer continuous driving

#1. Improved only recently with all those turbo and crdi
#2. Agree (has been the only favouring factor earlier)
#3. Well, not so sure about this
#4. Maybe, but who will drive a car for so long non-stop

I did not go for diesel for following reasons

1. Diesel models priced at a premium
2. More engine noise and NVH. (This is improving, but still not there..)
3. Hate waiting among trucks in a fuel pump in highways!
4. Less snob factor (for cars south of 10 lacs)

gd1418 · 5th June 2007, 21:58

Cheap Fuel, a big torque & I simply love huge diesel powerplants..

BUSA · 6th June 2007, 00:55

Torque
Low Cost of running
Noise
Euro IV Compliant engine so doing something for the envirnoment from my side
Engine of the year
Petes will make the power go up, so easy to mod with just plug and play

hrag · 6th June 2007, 09:53

If petrol and diesel were priced the same, I wonder how this thread would read. I'm talking about the fuel price.

hell_rider · 6th June 2007, 10:03

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Originally Posted by hrag

If petrol and diesel were priced the same, I wonder how this thread would read. I'm talking about the fuel price.

1. if petrol was as cheap as diesel, then I would go for a petrol car.
2. if diesel was as expensive as petrol, then I would go for a diesel car, as diesel would still go farther per litre.

but i do believe, large number of customers, such as fleet operators, taxi guys would still choose diesel in scenario 1.

DieselFan · 6th June 2007, 10:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by appuchan

#1. Improved only recently with all those turbo and crdi
#2. Agree (has been the only favouring factor earlier)
#3. Well, not so sure about this
#4. Maybe, but who will drive a car for so long non-stop

I did not go for diesel for following reasons

1. Diesel models priced at a premium
2. More engine noise and NVH. (This is improving, but still not there..)
3. Hate waiting among trucks in a fuel pump in highways!
4. Less snob factor (for cars south of 10 lacs)

#3 long life is true please read experiences on - Fred's TDI Page. TDIClub.com. VW TDI Enthusiast Community
#4 here I am talking about petrol engine getting heated up faster and needing frequent stops

comments on reasons spelt out by you -

1. Diesel models are priced high but the advantages it gives outweighs the extra price you need to pay.
2. With windows up and AC ON you do not feel the engine sound or vibration in recent Diesels.
3. I own a diesel and have never been behind a truck in the fuel filling station in any of my fillings (by the way the range is so high that you always get to fill Diesel in your favourite pump and not in some unknown pump on a highway. Filling fuel in desperate situations are left to petrol car owners with much lesser range).
4. Less Snob factor - You got it man. This is the only advantage of a Petrol car for which people are willing to shell out more than double in terms of fuel price per KM.

ritayan · 6th June 2007, 10:21

With 100 Km + Daily driving and having clocked over 40K on my santro in 2 years, I seriously needed to think hard about my fuel bill. CNG was an option but with my regular drives for work to Punjab, Rajasthan and Uttaranchal Diesel fitted the bill.

samirsarkar · 6th June 2007, 10:30

Somehow I can't bring myself to favour a diesel over a petrol car except maybe for the bucks I have to shell out at the petrol pump. We have had a Contessa diesel and the engine was good but bloody hell on maintenance. Not to mention the NVH levels. Somehow the smoothness (if at all any) of diesel cars seems to vanish once they complete 3 years whichever technology you may speak of. Petrols are much sweeter. I have travelled in good diesel taxis in the UK and could always make out that it was a diesel car the moment I stepped inside and the engine started. With the petrols I couldn't even make out that the engine was started unless I looked at the tacho.

I believe the only reason why the world is going in for diesels is because of the mileage which is of course more than a petrol.

5th June 2007, 12:08	#31
Kool_Kid BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 165 Thanked: 15 Times	1) Milage I drive close to 80 KM per Day to office Delhi to Noida 2) Pickup . VDi just z00000ms past other cars 3) peace of mind .. i know gov will find it harder to increase the price of diesel .... []
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5th June 2007, 12:20	#32
VooDoo BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: CA, US Posts: 59 Thanked: 0 Times	No! NO! No! can't blame me for that! it wasn't my fault... Company car..had to be an Indica.. what else could I have chosen ?? LSI!! No way! I commute 55 kms a day, 1100 bucks for a tankful, 17+ km average with 50% AC ... what else on earth do you want!! Change the oil+filters etc.. every 5K and you are happy at least for 100K Km.
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5th June 2007, 16:23	#35
srishiva Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 4,375 Thanked: 2,256 Times	I dont see CRDI mentioned anywhere. Its direct injection and not common rail. As akroy said, the diesel drives a generator that drives the loco.
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5th June 2007, 16:33	#36
dadu Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,803 Thanked: 462 Times View My Garage	This was just for reference on the IR diesel engine and since the WDM2 is the most common of the engines used by them. As I said earlier, I read about CRDI in IR somewhere and someone else also confirmed.
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5th June 2007, 16:51	#37
DieselFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,584 Thanked: 259 Times	I like Diesel for the following reasons in the order of preference - 1. Torque 2. Cost/KMs per litre 3. Long life (of the car) 4. Long range or longer continuous driving
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5th June 2007, 21:58	#39
gd1418 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,578 Thanked: 728 Times View My Garage	Why Diesel Cheap Fuel, a big torque & I simply love huge diesel powerplants..
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6th June 2007, 00:55	#40
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Torque Low Cost of running Noise Euro IV Compliant engine so doing something for the envirnoment from my side Engine of the year Petes will make the power go up, so easy to mod with just plug and play
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6th June 2007, 09:53	#41
hrag BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore / Madras Posts: 1,982 Thanked: 31 Times	If petrol and diesel were priced the same, I wonder how this thread would read. I'm talking about the fuel price.
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6th June 2007, 10:21	#44
ritayan BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Back in Delhi Posts: 228 Thanked: 46 Times View My Garage	With 100 Km + Daily driving and having clocked over 40K on my santro in 2 years, I seriously needed to think hard about my fuel bill. CNG was an option but with my regular drives for work to Punjab, Rajasthan and Uttaranchal Diesel fitted the bill.
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6th June 2007, 10:30	#45
samirsarkar BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 166 Thanked: 5 Times	Somehow I can't bring myself to favour a diesel over a petrol car except maybe for the bucks I have to shell out at the petrol pump. We have had a Contessa diesel and the engine was good but bloody hell on maintenance. Not to mention the NVH levels. Somehow the smoothness (if at all any) of diesel cars seems to vanish once they complete 3 years whichever technology you may speak of. Petrols are much sweeter. I have travelled in good diesel taxis in the UK and could always make out that it was a diesel car the moment I stepped inside and the engine started. With the petrols I couldn't even make out that the engine was started unless I looked at the tacho. I believe the only reason why the world is going in for diesels is because of the mileage which is of course more than a petrol.
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