Grande Punto @ 5Lacs, Linea @ 6.5Lacs, Shock Pricing

diabloo · 16th January 2009, 17:53

The comparison website showed that basic Fiesta model came with alloys. On double checking with Ford its only steel. Sorry for the confusion.

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Originally Posted by Fountainheader

If you are comparing basic models, then why bring the alloys into picture ?

ms001 · 16th January 2009, 17:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by diabloo

In equipment, all these model are at same level. Then how can it be with most features? In fact basic model of Linea doesn't come with CD player, while its comes with Aveo & Fiesta. Fiesta even has alloys, while Linea doesn't have.

i really fail to understand , what do you have against FIAT ,
so much so that you are ready to make your own versions/facts for everything,

everyone has the right to have their own views/likes/dislikes favorites.
But most of your arguments,posts defy common logic.

I would really like to know did you ever own a fiat or did fiat offend you in any other way?

Or may be something is wrong with most of the member's understanding/logic here.

I do not mean to offend you or anyone else,neither do i want to start any personal mud slinging competition.My point is lets not be biased about our opinions so much.

sorry for going OT

csentil · 16th January 2009, 19:01

To me the Linea seems to have achieved a bit of a breakthrough in pricing, with the spec, build and features of cars like the Civic, Corrola, Octavia and the price of the Fiesta, Verna, SX4, NHC, with the size again of the ANHC, Civic, Corolla, Optra etc.

The features such as the the stearing mounted controls are not present on most of the above listed cars, and the Rear Sun Screen, and rear AC Vents are not present on any of the cars below the Laura/Merc, while the Blue and me is again a new concept in India, and mainly available only though the aftermarket players or on the Indigo XL.

The Build is europian, while the price is closer to the cheapest of Japs, (Read Suzuki.)

It on top of all this offers Diesel where half the cars in the same segment dont provide the option at all.

Am a fiat fan - Evident from the above and would like to see it succed.[/quote]

Just looking at the specs and the GC is 161 on the diesel and 165 on the petrol for a wheelbase of 2603.

The ANHC GC is 160 for a wheelbase of 2550.

Is that an issue??

Well with 90 bhp I don't think one could compare it with the Corolla's, Octavias and the Civic's !!

Well I thought the Civic was a long car and the Linea is longer but doesn't look that way. I hope the handling is good.

The Dual AC is a nice touch.

The one big problem that Fiat has is perception. A.S.S has always been a problem with Fiat. If they can overcome the perception issue the car can do really well. That is where the Verna's and the ANHC would score over Fiat.

typeOnegative · 16th January 2009, 19:21

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Originally Posted by csentil

Well with 90 bhp I don't think one could compare it with the Corolla's, Octavias and the Civic's !!.

How many horses does the Octavia (diesel) have?

Agree with you on the perception and A.S.S part though.

narayan · 16th January 2009, 19:33

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Originally Posted by typeOnegative

How many horses does the Octavia (diesel) have?

Agree with you on the perception and A.S.S part though.

correction : 85BHP/203nm - Linea

csentil · 16th January 2009, 19:36

Buddy, I'm talking about the Petrol's !! Its 90 bhp for the Petrol Linea & 86 for the Diesel. The Octavia Petrol is 110 bhp and they once had an RS which was 150 bhp ain't it!!

And looks like I screwed up my earlier post's formatting ! :(

So I'll put it here again:

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Just looking at the specs and the GC is 161 on the diesel and 165 on the petrol for a wheelbase of 2603.

The ANHC GC is 160 for a wheelbase of 2550.

Is that an issue??

Well with 90 bhp I don't think one could compare it with the Corolla's, Octavias and the Civic's !!

Well I thought the Civic was a long car and the Linea is longer but doesn't look that way. I hope the handling is good.

The Dual AC is a nice touch.

The one big problem that Fiat has is perception. A.S.S has always been a problem with Fiat. If they can overcome the perception issue the car can do really well. That is where the Verna's and the ANHC would score over Fiat.

ImmortalZ · 16th January 2009, 19:39

All Octavia petrols (save the 2.0 model which was killed off early) are 150BHP.

vasudeva · 16th January 2009, 19:40

Linea is definitely welcome as more competition should always be. Puts pressure on the big cats to give more to the customer (remember the 800/Dzire/... waiting lists, margin money, piddly interest on deposits or the BSNL waiting lists till the early 2000s).

parimal_g · 16th January 2009, 19:48

Even Octavia D is 88 Bhp,and they launched the RS well after 2-3 years after the success of Octy so lets hope for goods sales of Linea so that we can get different versions of Linea 1.4 TP/1.9 D with 150 Bhp.

karanraheja · 16th January 2009, 21:02

We already have other threads to discuss about Linea. Mods time to close this one??

typeOnegative · 16th January 2009, 21:58

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Originally Posted by csentil

Buddy, I'm talking about the Petrol's !! Its 90 bhp for the Petrol Linea & 86 for the Diesel. ... would score over Fiat.

Thanks for the clarification buddy.

Somehow I do not know how the formatting of your post had anything to do with power outputs. Anyway ...

diabloo · 16th January 2009, 22:53

I have nothing against Fiat. All I am trying is bring out points of other cars, which is getting drowned in the euphoria of Linea.

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Originally Posted by ms001

i really fail to understand , what do you have against FIAT

cruiser_1982 · 16th January 2009, 23:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by diabloo

I have nothing against Fiat. All I am trying is bring out points of other cars, which is getting drowned in the euphoria of Linea.

Ha ha isn't that what is called as Brilliant marketing?

Fountainheader · 17th January 2009, 00:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by diabloo

I have nothing against Fiat. All I am trying is bring out points of other cars, which is getting drowned in the euphoria of Linea.

Guess you are more pained by the fact that there weren't as many threads for the ANHC as that of the Linea.

But all said and done, I guess this thread can be closed down, since we have seperate threads for Linea and GP.

cruiser_1982 · 17th January 2009, 00:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fountainheader

Guess you are more pained by the fact that there weren't as many threads for the ANHC as that of the Linea.

But all said and done, I guess this thread can be closed down, since we have seperate threads for Linea and GP.

Going by the number of threads, Linea beats Honda city. This also leads to perception that among the Team-BHPians, the enthusiasts favour Linea over the ANHC. I know I will flamed upon for this statement

16th January 2009, 19:01	#198
csentil Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,349 Thanked: 39 Times View My Garage	To me the Linea seems to have achieved a bit of a breakthrough in pricing, with the spec, build and features of cars like the Civic, Corrola, Octavia and the price of the Fiesta, Verna, SX4, NHC, with the size again of the ANHC, Civic, Corolla, Optra etc. The features such as the the stearing mounted controls are not present on most of the above listed cars, and the Rear Sun Screen, and rear AC Vents are not present on any of the cars below the Laura/Merc, while the Blue and me is again a new concept in India, and mainly available only though the aftermarket players or on the Indigo XL. The Build is europian, while the price is closer to the cheapest of Japs, (Read Suzuki.) It on top of all this offers Diesel where half the cars in the same segment dont provide the option at all. Am a fiat fan - Evident from the above and would like to see it succed.[/quote] Just looking at the specs and the GC is 161 on the diesel and 165 on the petrol for a wheelbase of 2603. The ANHC GC is 160 for a wheelbase of 2550. Is that an issue?? Well with 90 bhp I don't think one could compare it with the Corolla's, Octavias and the Civic's !! Well I thought the Civic was a long car and the Linea is longer but doesn't look that way. I hope the handling is good. The Dual AC is a nice touch. The one big problem that Fiat has is perception. A.S.S has always been a problem with Fiat. If they can overcome the perception issue the car can do really well. That is where the Verna's and the ANHC would score over Fiat.
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16th January 2009, 19:36	#201
csentil Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,349 Thanked: 39 Times View My Garage	Buddy, I'm talking about the Petrol's !! Its 90 bhp for the Petrol Linea & 86 for the Diesel. The Octavia Petrol is 110 bhp and they once had an RS which was 150 bhp ain't it!! And looks like I screwed up my earlier post's formatting ! :( So I'll put it here again: ---------- Just looking at the specs and the GC is 161 on the diesel and 165 on the petrol for a wheelbase of 2603. The ANHC GC is 160 for a wheelbase of 2550. Is that an issue?? Well with 90 bhp I don't think one could compare it with the Corolla's, Octavias and the Civic's !! Well I thought the Civic was a long car and the Linea is longer but doesn't look that way. I hope the handling is good. The Dual AC is a nice touch. The one big problem that Fiat has is perception. A.S.S has always been a problem with Fiat. If they can overcome the perception issue the car can do really well. That is where the Verna's and the ANHC would score over Fiat. Last edited by csentil : 16th January 2009 at 19:38.
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16th January 2009, 19:39	#202
ImmortalZ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,192 Thanked: 601 Times View My Garage	All Octavia petrols (save the 2.0 model which was killed off early) are 150BHP.
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16th January 2009, 19:40	#203
vasudeva Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 2,221 Thanked: 212 Times	Linea is definitely welcome as more competition should always be. Puts pressure on the big cats to give more to the customer (remember the 800/Dzire/... waiting lists, margin money, piddly interest on deposits or the BSNL waiting lists till the early 2000s).
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16th January 2009, 19:48	#204
parimal_g BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 442 Thanked: 278 Times View My Garage	Even Octavia D is 88 Bhp,and they launched the RS well after 2-3 years after the success of Octy so lets hope for goods sales of Linea so that we can get different versions of Linea 1.4 TP/1.9 D with 150 Bhp.
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16th January 2009, 21:02	#205
karanraheja Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 436 Times	We already have other threads to discuss about Linea. Mods time to close this one??
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