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Old 14th March 2024, 23:13   #31
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Re: To escape Delhi's 15-year ban, can I swap a new petrol engine into my car?

If the government had wanted it purely for pollution reason, they would have a framework to have the vehicle inspection and extending the RC validity. A blanket ban based on age is nonsense to be mild, There are 5 yr old cars on the road that are not maintained well and pollute more than 10 year old well maintained cars. The pollution certificate are just eye wash and most commercial vehicles just get it done without an actual check. Sorry for the rant, but I think we are polluting more by bringing in new cars on the road, no one is factoring in the carbon footprint of manufacturing them.
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Old 15th March 2024, 00:19   #32
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Re: To escape Delhi's 15-year ban, can I swap a new petrol engine into my car?

There are a few things to consider here before concluding that you want to keep the car with a new engine. 15 years is a massive amount of time for tech and other aspects to have changed left, right and centre.

1. The car is old and that's a fact. Old means wear and tear not just in the engine. It's very important to understand that every material has a safe working lifetime after which it can definitely be used albeit with maintenance done every now and then. You WILL face issues one after the other. The transmission will lose its smoothness which may require (deep breath) an overhaul, your brakes will need rework or replacement, your suspension will become harder with each passing day which is unfortunately irreversible without replacement of parts, your clutch will be up for replacement, your interiors will need either a deep clean & detail or a complete overhaul depending on the condition, fabrics and upholstery items will need rejuvenation. That's a whole lot of work to keep your car not just up with your requirements but also on par with the times.

2. No matter how much you do try, there is only so much you can add to a car in terms of features because it's just not engineered around it. A music system can be added to any car but ESP, Traction control, Hill hold and such may be added but at what cost financially and in terms of effort?

3. Even in the event that everything else works out, BS6 engines which are available now do NOT work with older transmission and exhaust systems because they're more software driven than they are hardware driven. Even if you manage to get a BS4, it's still going to require major changes to the fuel ratio, the catalytic converter and so on. These as you can figure out, are just some of many adjustments to make with no guarantee on longevity

4. If the stuff I put forth in the first point come up one after the other after you swap your engine, you will easily be looking at a bill upwards of 3 lacs over and above the amount you spent on your engine.

This is obviously not an exhaustive overview of what might come your way, not to mention the legal red tape. If you still want to do it, no one's stopping you but just my two cents on the matter. As the other BHPians have said, I too would look at a new or used different car with more documented life in it.
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Old 21st March 2024, 06:55   #33
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Re: To escape Delhi's 15-year ban, can I swap a new petrol engine into my car?

Hello friends,

Are there any good options to sell my ~14.5 year old i10, please suggest.

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Old 21st March 2024, 07:51   #34
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Re: To escape Delhi's 15-year ban, can I swap a new petrol engine into my car?

I was watching this yesterday and was thinking why such a thing is still not possible for passenger cars?



Retirees and old people who have very little usage on their cars should not be forced to buy new ones just for the sake of the environment since it is in fact worse for the environment to scrap old card when they are still in working order.

If the government has a problem with the Petrol/Diesel powertrain, EV swaps should now be incentivised. Why is GST on EV components 12% when that on an EV car is 5%?

LFP Battery prices are pegged to drop another 50% to roughly the same as Lead acid battery prices by the end of this year. Even with a 12% GST, a 25KWh (same as a Tiago/Tigor LR) battery pack should cost under 1.5 lakh rupees.

If it is really the National "Green" Tribunal, it's time the NGT specifically promotes this option to people affected by these unconstitutional bans. It will not only help preserve some residual value, in the larger scheme of things, it will remove the need to manufacture an entire new car (to replace this one) and also remove an ICE engine from the roads of India entirely, an engine that would still be capable of running for years outside of NCR.

This retrofitting industry can also help with upgrading battery packs of gen 1 EVs when they eventually degrade beyond usable levels and also boost the supply of stationary energy storage from decommissioned battery packs.

Commercial vehicles are the pioneers of innovation when it comes to cutting operating costs. The industry should probably pick up if it's legal as soon as it starts to make financial sense.
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