The Mahindra Scorpio mHawk 2.2

Mpower · 4th December 2007, 20:52

Anybody know what is the 0-60kph timing for the Safari. The Scorpio 2.2 is supposed to be 5.7 secs according to the website. I am eager to know which is faster.

BTW is the 2.6 /M2DI Scorp still available ?

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Originally Posted by directinjection

This common engine thing between the Safari and Scorpio is intriguing and I smell something fishy here.

For a start Scorp has Delphi and Mahindra has Bosch FI systems.

sun · 4th December 2007, 21:04

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Originally Posted by Mpower

Anybody know what is the 0-60kph timing for the Safari. The Scorpio 2.2 is supposed to be 5.7 secs according to the website. I am eager to know which is faster.

BTW is the 2.6 /M2DI Scorp still available ?

Safari 2.2 does 0 - 60 in 6.2 Seconds

2.6 CRDe and M2Di will continue to be available

Akshay1234 · 4th December 2007, 21:05

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Originally Posted by Mpower

BTW is the 2.6 /M2DI Scorp still available ?

yup. the new engine is only available in the top end trim.

Mpower · 4th December 2007, 21:18

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Originally Posted by sun

Safari 2.2 does 0 - 60 in 6.2 Seconds

2.6 CRDe and M2Di will continue to be available

Wow, this is important, the Scorpio is faster by half a second to 60 which is pretty good. Wonder how it does 0-100.

3 engine choices is a bit too much whereas others are putting 1 engine in 3 different vehicles.

EDIT: Its 4 including the petrol

sun · 4th December 2007, 23:59

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Originally Posted by Mpower

3 engine choices is a bit too much whereas other are putting 1 engine in 3 different vehicles.

I would say that it is an intelligent marketing strategy. Caters to all segments of consumers.. Will get the numbers soaring up.

RAINMAKER · 5th December 2007, 01:26

The Safari is the First Indian SUV or "4 wheeler" which has undergone a FULL FRONTAL CRASH TEST.

I dont think the Scorpio has undergone that. Why doenst M&M go the extra mile and do that too.

Its a surprise how they manage to Export it to other countries.

Vivek

deuce-deuce · 5th December 2007, 08:45

Well,according to ACI's road test in the november issue,0-60 time of the Safari 2.2 is 5.76 secs and 0-100 is 15.16 secs,virtually identical 0-60 times that Mahindra is quoting for the Scorpio 2.2(5.7 secs,sounds overoptimistic).
The Scorpio 2.6 has a 0-60 time of 7.24 secs and 0-100 in 16.53 secs,again according to ACI.

Prithvi · 5th December 2007, 09:35

What a waste of M&M getting out the Mhawk and then detuning the 140bhp engine to 120bhp (the old crdi being 110) and giving an excuse that the transmission cannot take the extra load.

I am sure after 1 year they will upgrade the transmission to handle the 140 bhp and then ask us customers to cough up another lakh or two and if we want the full blown 140 bhp version.

Total marketing rip-off. sad but true.

Fail to understand why M&M could not upgrade or change the transmission to handle the 140bhp power in the first place itself. Does it think we are fools.

Mera Bharath Mahan.

benbsb29 · 5th December 2007, 10:39

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Originally Posted by Mpower

3 engine choices is a bit too much whereas others are putting 1 engine in 3 different vehicles.

EDIT: Its 4 including the petrol

I remember reading in some ACI issue that the petrol variant was stopped.

m3_07 · 5th December 2007, 18:11

Sir....advice please.......

I visited the Scorpio place & the sales guytold me that scorpio 2.2 is 120 BHP & safari is 126 BHP. It is not 140 BHP 'coz, it is actually 140 ps...i'm no auto engineer this gyaan was hard to digest.

Can you confirm???

Jaggu · 5th December 2007, 18:28

just saw one take a 90 deg turn at good speeds and brake immediately afterwards, suspension seems to have been tweaked, no undue roll and pitch.. atleast visible.. bloody fast too

suman · 5th December 2007, 18:36

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Originally Posted by m3_07

I visited the Scorpio place & the sales guytold me that scorpio 2.2 is 120 BHP & safari is 126 BHP. It is not 140 BHP 'coz, it is actually 140 ps...

Multiply ps by 0.9863 to arrive at bhp.

The Safari 2.2 is WAAAYYYYYY ahead of the Hawk

abbey4u · 5th December 2007, 21:23

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Originally Posted by m3_07

Sir....advice please.......

I visited the Scorpio place & the sales guytold me that scorpio 2.2 is 120 BHP & safari is 126 BHP. It is not 140 BHP 'coz, it is actually 140 ps...i'm no auto engineer this gyaan was hard to digest.

Can you confirm???

140 PS = 138 BHP

1.0 PS = 0.98632 BHP. In general, anything below 180 bhp/ps is pretty much taken as equal. The difference only starts to open up when there are a lot of PSs and BHPs involved

agbenny · 8th December 2007, 17:32

Ok, Guys, Anyone met the beast at the showroom? Any test-drives made? Keen to read your posts?

rahulkapadia · 9th December 2007, 14:05

Guys, Well M&M surely has a 140 BHP version of the engine, only thing is it, its still under developement.

Moreover one thing is for certain the drivebaility of the Scorpio 2.2 is much better than the Safari 2.2, even though both of them have been developed in conjuction with AVL....

I advise you all to go to the Mahindra showroom and testdrive the vehicle and you will realise the power and the features of the new engine...

5th December 2007, 01:26	#66
RAINMAKER BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 146 Thanked: 82 Times View My Garage	The Safari is the First Indian SUV or "4 wheeler" which has undergone a FULL FRONTAL CRASH TEST. I dont think the Scorpio has undergone that. Why doenst M&M go the extra mile and do that too. Its a surprise how they manage to Export it to other countries. Vivek
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5th December 2007, 08:45	#67
deuce-deuce BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 39 Thanked: 5 Times	Well,according to ACI's road test in the november issue,0-60 time of the Safari 2.2 is 5.76 secs and 0-100 is 15.16 secs,virtually identical 0-60 times that Mahindra is quoting for the Scorpio 2.2(5.7 secs,sounds overoptimistic). The Scorpio 2.6 has a 0-60 time of 7.24 secs and 0-100 in 16.53 secs,again according to ACI.
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5th December 2007, 09:35	#68
Prithvi BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 302 Thanked: 26 Times	What a waste of M&M getting out the Mhawk and then detuning the 140bhp engine to 120bhp (the old crdi being 110) and giving an excuse that the transmission cannot take the extra load. I am sure after 1 year they will upgrade the transmission to handle the 140 bhp and then ask us customers to cough up another lakh or two and if we want the full blown 140 bhp version. Total marketing rip-off. sad but true. Fail to understand why M&M could not upgrade or change the transmission to handle the 140bhp power in the first place itself. Does it think we are fools. Mera Bharath Mahan.
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5th December 2007, 18:11	#70
m3_07 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 275 Thanked: 203 Times	Sir....advice please....... I visited the Scorpio place & the sales guytold me that scorpio 2.2 is 120 BHP & safari is 126 BHP. It is not 140 BHP 'coz, it is actually 140 ps...i'm no auto engineer this gyaan was hard to digest. Can you confirm???
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5th December 2007, 18:28	#71
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,383 Thanked: 17,296 Times	just saw one take a 90 deg turn at good speeds and brake immediately afterwards, suspension seems to have been tweaked, no undue roll and pitch.. atleast visible.. bloody fast too
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8th December 2007, 17:32	#74
agbenny BANNED Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: TN38 Posts: 1,081 Thanked: 294 Times	Ok, Guys, Anyone met the beast at the showroom? Any test-drives made? Keen to read your posts?
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9th December 2007, 14:05	#75
rahulkapadia Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Nashik Posts: 1 Thanked: 0 Times	Scorpio Vlx Guys, Well M&M surely has a 140 BHP version of the engine, only thing is it, its still under developement. Moreover one thing is for certain the drivebaility of the Scorpio 2.2 is much better than the Safari 2.2, even though both of them have been developed in conjuction with AVL.... I advise you all to go to the Mahindra showroom and testdrive the vehicle and you will realise the power and the features of the new engine...
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