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Originally Posted by lancer_rit @aaggoswami,
please don't equate larger engine size (as in cc) with superior technology (otherwise the Americans will win every engine war). The Octavia 1.9TDI is a great engine with high fuel efficiency. However, it is a generation older than the Linea's 1.3 MJD with VGT (variable geomentry turbo). The Linea due to the VGT has very little turbo lag whatever unlike the Octavia and almost all other diesels in India. It also makes higher torque than the 1.9TDI and exactly the same BHP and the car is > 100kg lighter than Octavia.
Now, how does that make it a lesser car than the much more expensive Octavia ?
Ofcourse, one would like if 1.9MJD and other higher spec engines are also made available but these will cost more. |
Does Linea have a higher top speed ? I believe that Linea is good for city but not high speed long distance cruising. The numbers say so.
If Linea has a very high tech mill and better aerodynamics than Octy, then it must beat octy to top speed also.
The matter here is that I believe Linea is only a good city car and not a good highway car. It has good ride, no doubt, but the mill is lacking.
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Originally Posted by aseem
1) You claim Linea is underpowered at 90 bhp
2) Than you claim but Octi with same power is better and worthy of its price
3) Than it becomes the engine displacement with Fiat Linea being just 1.3 ltr
4) Than you're told that Fiat Palio had a 1.9 D, you claim it had no power
5) We give you a 1.6 ltr Verna with more power, than its the build
6) The facts that Linea has better in gear accerlation than Octi is meaningless to you as you want a higher top end? Even though 90% of usage would demand in gear acceleration.
I get it dude, you like SX4 but too many ifs and buts in your theory, so please do yourself a favor and give it a REST! |
1) For highway runs. Go to any express highway, try doing consistently above 150. The figures are good for city along with its linear power deliver that others dont have, but I would prefer a more powerful D-segment Linea.
2) Yes, I do. Reason in point number 1 above.
3) Sorry, 1.25 i.e. 1248cc. Same as what they are offering in small cars. It has its own restrictions. Again, point number 1.
4) I am not told, but 1.9 Palio is brought into. I knew about it since 2002. I knew OD test car had some battery issue with 1.9D Palio. Please dont jump on this again and say that battery issue = bad car. I know that, but this is for reference that I am reasonably aware of this thing happening in our car market.
The point is if they could bring in that in 2002, why not bring in that MJD verison and put in Linea, price it along Octy and Civic and then see the results ?
5) Cant get this point.
6) For a D-segment car, it has to better on many counts IMHO.
7) Each and every theory has " If this is like this then ... ".
I would like to repeat that to me ( Yes for me ) a car as a complete package has to be good and I have posted this:
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Originally Posted by aaggoswami It looks like I was discussing one thing with someone, and eventually, my posts looks like they are from a confused personality.
Here I would like to clarify my parameters for rating a car as COTY as the discussion is revolving around COTY.
1) Car.
How good is a car as far as chassis ( suspension, brakes, etc ), engine, space, interior build quality, etc.
2) This car is actually going to be used, so what is cost of spares, availability of spares, A.S & S., features like climate control, etc.
3) Price of the car as regards to point no. 1 and 2.
So when I look into car as a complete package ( I have used this word many times ), the car itself has to be good along with the support it would get from manufacturer.
Honda city is good for Point 1, but not 2. Linea fails in both, A-star is good in both aspects. For those who doubt my credibility to post an opinion, I have voted for A-star as per my thoughts in this thread : http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ar-2008-a.html
I think we are down to arguments rather than discussing. Any problem with my post, please PM to me. I will not be arguing on this thread now. |