Is it raining Lineas, or is it raining TDCis?

phamilyman · 24th April 2009, 10:59

Just my observation - everyday in Gurgaon I see atleast 10-20 Ikon TDCi, but only 5-7 Lineas.

Somewhere on the forum, we all love FIAT but are missing that other cars are doing a good comeback too.

Just my observation - is it true?

PS: I somewhere think its partially cannibalized Fiesta sales, but that's a separate discussion.

Point is that a decent package, despite Ford's name can still sell.
PPS: Proof: 2.8k sold in march versus 1.3k sold in October (which includes sales around Diwali). What say peoples?

PPPS: Yes, I'm still pissed in some way that the car came a month too late, else i'd be driving an Ikon and not a Swift

indivic · 24th April 2009, 11:16

Atleast in CHE, Ikon in TDCI guise is making a comeback, I see atleast 2 or 3 new Ikons during my daily commute but not Lineas . However in the Industrial estate where our office is located, I do get to see almost on a daily basis, Lineas coming from the yard ,parked in shade while the drivers engage in some shady activities like siphoning fuel and some general pilferage.

vineethvazhayil · 24th April 2009, 11:21

I guess Ford has built enough of a brand value with the Fiesta and the last gen Ikon. phamillyman, were they all non taxis? I also see more new Ikons than new Lineas, but then there is a big difference in price tags.

phamilyman · 24th April 2009, 11:27

Tags not withstanding, its about people reposing faith in a brand given a competent package. unlike how Tata has killed Palio with a subpar offering (better steering/NVH/Fiat goodies in Vista - can it get any worse?)

And yes, almost 90% non taxis. Most taxi TDCi are out of town (typically southern Rajasthan).

I also note that new Fabias have come to a total standstill in Gurgaon. Current series is HR26 AW and the newest Fabia I saw was HR26AT (ie sometime in end Oct!!).

FlyingSpur · 24th April 2009, 11:38

Well in Mumbai, I've seen just about ONE "new" Ikon. The Lineas OTOH are all over the place. I like it that way.

vineethvazhayil · 24th April 2009, 11:41

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Originally Posted by flyingspur

Well in Mumbai, I've seen just about ONE "new" Ikon. The Lineas OTOH are all over the place. I like it that way.

Is it also like you see only what you want to see?

suman · 24th April 2009, 11:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by phamilyman

PPPS: Yes, I'm still pissed in some way that the car came a month too late, else i'd be driving an Ikon and not a Swift

Still not too late - since BRT is so enamored of the Swift (after riding/driving Shiv's/yours), maybe you should sell it off & get the Ikon

Fountainheader · 24th April 2009, 11:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by phamilyman

Just my observation - everyday in Gurgaon I see atleast 10-20 Ikon TDCi, but only 5-7 Lineas.

How about putting the blame yet again on recession lol ?

But these are 2 different segments that you are comparing here. How about checking the sightings of the ANHC vs Linea ?

FlyingSpur · 24th April 2009, 12:01

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Originally Posted by vineethvazhayil

Is it also like you see only what you want to see?

Not really. No. I also see a lot of NHC's which killed the legendary OHC. I don't really turn a blind eye towards them.

null · 24th April 2009, 12:04

Well, I too notice quite a few Ikon TDCi's on the road in Bangalore. Very rare to catch a glimpse of Lineas here.

S_budhiraj · 24th April 2009, 12:10

Even I see quite a big no's of Ikon Tdci on daily basis.

This is not the comparison of segments but the comparison of products which are trying to re-establish their companies.

Both of them are winners of their own segments and are well accepted among the buyers.

As far as Ikon Tdci is concerned, I am my self driving one and must say this car is a great buy at the price offered. Ikon TDci is fetching quite a good no of buyers of Swift and Swift Dzire.

jasher26 · 24th April 2009, 14:22

amazing number of Lineas on the roads of Bombay. Glad to see Fiat doing well and hopefully they will launch new cars. Though I hope not as underpowered as the Linea :(

loving_alaap · 24th April 2009, 14:27

In Ahmedabad, Lineas are not seen that much, Ikons are frequently seen though.

hillram · 24th April 2009, 14:31

In Hyderabad at least i have seen good number of Lineas,which makes envious of all the Linea owners.

rajneeesh · 24th April 2009, 16:09

Ikon TDCI is canniblising the sales of the Tata Indigo. Here the buyer has an option of a decent Diesel Sedan ( with a modern engine) for the price that is at par with a hatch.

The Linea is in a very different segment. TDCI is a competent ( though dated) offering at an attractive price and it makes a compelling case for itself for the VFM minded buyer.

24th April 2009, 10:59	#1
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,975 Thanked: 4,675 Times	Is it raining Lineas, or is it raining TDCis? Just my observation - everyday in Gurgaon I see atleast 10-20 Ikon TDCi, but only 5-7 Lineas. Somewhere on the forum, we all love FIAT but are missing that other cars are doing a good comeback too. Just my observation - is it true? PS: I somewhere think its partially cannibalized Fiesta sales, but that's a separate discussion. Point is that a decent package, despite Ford's name can still sell. PPS: Proof: 2.8k sold in march versus 1.3k sold in October (which includes sales around Diwali). What say peoples? PPPS: Yes, I'm still pissed in some way that the car came a month too late, else i'd be driving an Ikon and not a Swift
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24th April 2009, 11:16	#2
indivic BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 849 Thanked: 204 Times	Atleast in CHE, Ikon in TDCI guise is making a comeback, I see atleast 2 or 3 new Ikons during my daily commute but not Lineas . However in the Industrial estate where our office is located, I do get to see almost on a daily basis, Lineas coming from the yard ,parked in shade while the drivers engage in some shady activities like siphoning fuel and some general pilferage.
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24th April 2009, 11:21	#3
vineethvazhayil Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 1,514 Thanked: 459 Times View My Garage	I guess Ford has built enough of a brand value with the Fiesta and the last gen Ikon. phamillyman, were they all non taxis? I also see more new Ikons than new Lineas, but then there is a big difference in price tags.
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24th April 2009, 11:27	#4
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,975 Thanked: 4,675 Times	Tags not withstanding, its about people reposing faith in a brand given a competent package. unlike how Tata has killed Palio with a subpar offering (better steering/NVH/Fiat goodies in Vista - can it get any worse?) And yes, almost 90% non taxis. Most taxi TDCi are out of town (typically southern Rajasthan). I also note that new Fabias have come to a total standstill in Gurgaon. Current series is HR26 AW and the newest Fabia I saw was HR26AT (ie sometime in end Oct!!).
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24th April 2009, 11:38	#5
FlyingSpur Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,935 Thanked: 1,449 Times View My Garage	Well in Mumbai, I've seen just about ONE "new" Ikon. The Lineas OTOH are all over the place. I like it that way.
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24th April 2009, 12:04	#10
null BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Paradise (wish it was) Posts: 456 Thanked: 371 Times	Well, I too notice quite a few Ikon TDCi's on the road in Bangalore. Very rare to catch a glimpse of Lineas here.
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24th April 2009, 12:10	#11
S_budhiraj BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 275 Thanked: Once	Even I see quite a big no's of Ikon Tdci on daily basis. This is not the comparison of segments but the comparison of products which are trying to re-establish their companies. Both of them are winners of their own segments and are well accepted among the buyers. As far as Ikon Tdci is concerned, I am my self driving one and must say this car is a great buy at the price offered. Ikon TDci is fetching quite a good no of buyers of Swift and Swift Dzire.
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24th April 2009, 14:22	#12
jasher26 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 200 Thanked: 4 Times	amazing number of Lineas on the roads of Bombay. Glad to see Fiat doing well and hopefully they will launch new cars. Though I hope not as underpowered as the Linea :(
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24th April 2009, 14:27	#13
loving_alaap BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 808 Thanked: 9 Times	In Ahmedabad, Lineas are not seen that much, Ikons are frequently seen though.
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24th April 2009, 14:31	#14
hillram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,941 Thanked: 1,329 Times View My Garage	In Hyderabad at least i have seen good number of Lineas,which makes envious of all the Linea owners.
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24th April 2009, 16:09	#15
rajneeesh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: noida Posts: 1,121 Thanked: 561 Times	Ikon TDCI is canniblising the sales of the Tata Indigo. Here the buyer has an option of a decent Diesel Sedan ( with a modern engine) for the price that is at par with a hatch. The Linea is in a very different segment. TDCI is a competent ( though dated) offering at an attractive price and it makes a compelling case for itself for the VFM minded buyer.
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