Sonalika Engines to Power Tavera

fx45 · 16th July 2010, 18:13

Scoop: Sonalika engines in Tavera | Autocar India

The Tavera’s earlier engine, a 2.5-litre, was unable to comply with the BSIV emissions norms. This had forced GM to pull the vehicle out of some cities, resulting in a steep decline in Tavera sales.
GM now plans to re-launch the Tavera with a new BSIV-compliant engine by the end of this year. This unit will be a sub-2.0-litre CRDi unit which will be sourced from local car manufacturer, Sonalika. The max power is reported to be 100bhp. This unit is designed by Lotus for Sonalika and it also powers Sonalika’s own offering, the Rhino.

Gooney · 16th July 2010, 18:15

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Originally Posted by fx45

Scoop: Sonalika engines in Tavera | Autocar India

This unit will be a sub-2.0-litre CRDi unit which will be sourced from local car manufacturer, Sonalika. The max power is reported to be 100bhp. This unit is designed by Lotus for Sonalika and it also powers Sonalika’s own offering, the Rhino.

But didn't the Sonalika Rhino use a MG Rover sourced engine?

mjothi · 16th July 2010, 18:28

They have been facing issues to source diesel engines for quite sometimes. Hope this helps. Also, the price may be reduced.

indivic · 16th July 2010, 19:13

I wonder if this shortcut will work to improve Tavera sales, especially if the Isuzu badge is not going to be seen anymore.

The engine on the current Rhino is quite noisy, I can only hope the CRDi mill will be better.

If it works, GM could be tempted to ask Sonalika to make a sub 1.5l from the same one.

jkdas · 16th July 2010, 19:50

Thats an interesting news. Kudos to Sonalika!
Gm couldnt get a good engine from their own stable?

DicKy · 16th July 2010, 20:03

hmm.. Sonalika supplying engines for tavera.Interesting.
BTW, where is the proposed world platform of ICML, for a SUV and a C segment car?
They excused reasoning the 2008 crisis.But it's two years since.Where are the cars?

xingamazon · 17th July 2010, 00:33

Wow looks like Sonalika has been coming off age now, imagine supplying engines for an auto major like GM that should be a feather on their cap.

Being in tractor business I am sure they would have got used to bigger albeit louder engines. Hope this is also not an imitation of some Japanese engine.

aargee · 17th July 2010, 02:08

I've seen the Rhino's fairing better on highways & has not only given the looks of Qualis but has stood upto the performance of Toyota's engines too. I'm quite surprised to see as why, a industry lead like, GM couldn't get an engine all by themselves & have to depend on local market for it. Must be some hidden strategy.

And yes, @Gooney is right on Rover's engine here

CrackedHead · 17th July 2010, 02:15

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Originally Posted by aargee

I'm quite surprised to see as why, a industry lead like, GM couldn't get an engine all by themselves & have to depend on local market for it. Must be some hidden strategy.

Economies of scale? The Tavera doesn't exactly set the sales charts on fire. Might have been too expensive to go the other route.

Amartya · 17th July 2010, 02:49

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Originally Posted by CrackedHead

Economies of scale? The Tavera doesn't exactly set the sales charts on fire. Might have been too expensive to go the other route.

Yes. Setting up an engine plant just for the Tavera (think about it, this engine wouldn't find any other application in the GM range) is uneconomical.

ashutoshb · 17th July 2010, 02:53

BSM was all praises for the 100 bhp DI Turbo engine, which was co-developed with MG Rover. The common rail should be better.

Link to the review: Sonalika Rhino RX

gshanky · 17th July 2010, 03:21

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Originally Posted by CrackedHead

Economies of scale? The Tavera doesn't exactly set the sales charts on fire. Might have been too expensive to go the other route.

Indeed! Sonalika's engine should have been cheaper than bringing an engine from china

Who would have thought?

CrackedHead · 17th July 2010, 04:32

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Originally Posted by Amartya

Yes. Setting up an engine plant just for the Tavera (think about it, this engine wouldn't find any other application in the GM range) is uneconomical.

Precisely. So Sonalika sells a few more engines (better utilization of its installed production capacity) and makes money. GM gets a BSIV ready engine for peanuts.

Sonalika owners benefit from the increased availability of engine/auxiliary parts.

Win-win situation for everyone.

speedsatya · 17th July 2010, 07:12

Guess this would help GM to compete on price with the likes of Tata Sumo ,the Mahindra's and the Trax.

Do we soon see GM buying a stake in Sonalika ?

ottocycle · 17th July 2010, 07:46

In college, I did my summer intern in Sonalika. From what I have seen, I am not very confident about the quality of the engine that would be produced by Sonalika. They are primarily a Tracker company.

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fx45 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,823 Thanked: 384 Times	Sonalika Engines to Power Tavera Scoop: Sonalika engines in Tavera \| Autocar India The Tavera’s earlier engine, a 2.5-litre, was unable to comply with the BSIV emissions norms. This had forced GM to pull the vehicle out of some cities, resulting in a steep decline in Tavera sales. GM now plans to re-launch the Tavera with a new BSIV-compliant engine by the end of this year. This unit will be a sub-2.0-litre CRDi unit which will be sourced from local car manufacturer, Sonalika. The max power is reported to be 100bhp. This unit is designed by Lotus for Sonalika and it also powers Sonalika’s own offering, the Rhino.
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indivic BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 837 Thanked: 195 Times	I wonder if this shortcut will work to improve Tavera sales, especially if the Isuzu badge is not going to be seen anymore. The engine on the current Rhino is quite noisy, I can only hope the CRDi mill will be better. If it works, GM could be tempted to ask Sonalika to make a sub 1.5l from the same one.
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jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Thats an interesting news. Kudos to Sonalika! Gm couldnt get a good engine from their own stable?
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DicKy Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: TVPM Posts: 3,828 Thanked: 11,810 Times	hmm.. Sonalika supplying engines for tavera.Interesting. BTW, where is the proposed world platform of ICML, for a SUV and a C segment car? They excused reasoning the 2008 crisis.But it's two years since.Where are the cars?
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xingamazon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,400 Thanked: 121 Times	Wow looks like Sonalika has been coming off age now, imagine supplying engines for an auto major like GM that should be a feather on their cap. Being in tractor business I am sure they would have got used to bigger albeit louder engines. Hope this is also not an imitation of some Japanese engine.
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aargee Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: TSTN Posts: 6,236 Thanked: 9,641 Times	I've seen the Rhino's fairing better on highways & has not only given the looks of Qualis but has stood upto the performance of Toyota's engines too. I'm quite surprised to see as why, a industry lead like, GM couldn't get an engine all by themselves & have to depend on local market for it. Must be some hidden strategy. And yes, @Gooney is right on Rover's engine here
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ashutoshb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NOIDA Posts: 1,757 Thanked: 4,289 Times View My Garage	BSM was all praises for the 100 bhp DI Turbo engine, which was co-developed with MG Rover. The common rail should be better. Link to the review: Sonalika Rhino RX
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speedsatya Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: bangalore/manga Posts: 3,169 Thanked: 738 Times View My Garage	Guess this would help GM to compete on price with the likes of Tata Sumo ,the Mahindra's and the Trax. Do we soon see GM buying a stake in Sonalika ?
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ottocycle BANNED Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 491 Thanked: 589 Times	In college, I did my summer intern in Sonalika. From what I have seen, I am not very confident about the quality of the engine that would be produced by Sonalika. They are primarily a Tracker company.
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