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Old 22nd October 2008, 12:30   #16
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The theme is "Motorsports 2025", these concepts are not intended to be taken to big bazaar for grocery shopping so no point comparing it to a boring 3 box sedan or a sub compact hatch back.
Even then, they're way too futuristic. 2025 is like just 17 years from now and if you compare cars of today with cars back in 1991, the diff is nowhere close to this extent.

Infact some of the cars back then looked more sci-fi than today. Hehe

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I for one welcome these futuristic gizmo's. No wonder, they don't appeal to the present generation.

What's life without a little imagination, duh..
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Old 23rd October 2008, 07:56   #18
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@ zaks: Well Said.!
no imagination = no future
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Old 23rd October 2008, 08:15   #19
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please see the theme of the LA Design Challenge before posting. The theme is "Motorsports 2025", these concepts are not intended to be taken to big bazaar for grocery shopping so no point comparing it to a boring 3 box sedan or a sub compact hatch back.
Please post a link to the LA Design Challenge. I don't see one in your post, so how do you expect us to see what the theme is? Also, please credit your pics to the site/source you got them from and post a link as well.

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These vehicles are designed by the same design teams that created the Evo X (Mitsubishi North America), 3,5,7,M series(BMW Design Works), Mazda production cars (Mazda North America), Mercedes C,E,S,CLK etc (Mercedes advance design North America), Tbhp's Beloved Honda production line up (Honda R&D America) etc. and i'm sure most of you are gaga over atleast one of these production cars.
So if you accepted these production cars then who knows what you will accept and buy in the future.
None of which are particularly revolutionary or breathtaking in design. Some of which have been flamed almost universally.

In the last century, they predicted that by the turn of the millenium, we would all have little green pills for meals, drive around in our jet-powered skycars, and holiday on the Moon. I don't see any of that happening just yet, so I'd take any concept show 17 years in advance with a huge bucket of salt. Looks like a lot of designers just unwinding and sketching out their fantasies.

Also, you may want to look closely. Not a single one of your prototypes, or anything that will draw inspiration higher than a colour scheme from them, will come close to passing pedestrian safety norms.

We may not be highfalutin designers, but we're not uneducated either.
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Out of the lot the Mitsubishi looks promising and hot
There you have it. Wheels for the 21st Century Hero, our very own, Ramieman!
I like the Audi. Looks most conventional and drivable of the lot.
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Old 23rd October 2008, 10:02   #21
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@v1p3r:

Please post a link to the LA Design Challenge. I don't see one in your post, so how do you expect us to see what the theme is?

A: I guess google.com is not working? Anyways LA Auto Show
www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2008/10/21-la-auto-show-design-challenge/

None of which are particularly revolutionary or breathtaking in design.
A: I am unclear after reading your post. what exactly is your point? You have contradictary statements. First you say that award winning designs like bmw's, mercedes etc which are the nicest cars money can buy are not revolutionary or breathtaking??? and on the other hand your are saying that you'll take any concept car 17 years in advance with a huge bucket of salt. So what exactly are you expecting from cars if you dont want to let go a 15year old sedan or hatchback that was designed back in the 1990s and neither do you want to accept a car thats outside the realm of reality.


In the last century, they predicted that by the turn of the millenium, we would all have little green pills for meals, drive around in our jet-powered skycars, and holiday on the Moon.
A: Who is this "THEY". I havent met them but seems like this "they" has been watching a lot of Jetsons.

Looks like a lot of designers just unwinding and sketching out their fantasies.
A: Unwinding-Sketching-Fantasies: Trust me all of these are much much harder then you think it is. It takes tremendous amounts of creativity to come up with concepts like these.

Also, you may want to look closely. Not a single one of your prototypes, or anything that will draw inspiration higher than a colour scheme from them, will come close to passing pedestrian safety norms.
A: First of all I'm not that talented to flaunt any of these concepts as my concepts and secondly or i should say once again the theme is "MOTORSPORTS 2025". These concepts are visions of track vehicles. So the point of passing pedestrian safety norms should be taken to the dumpster. If a pedestrian wants to stroll on a track where any of these concepts are racing, he/she/it definately wants to be roadkill. So lets keep the really interesting and fascinating pedestrian safety norms out of this context.

We may not be highfalutin designers, but we're not uneducated either.
A: Ofcourse not I never said that, you can very well write and speak which qualifies you as an educated individual. You could be a Heart Specialist for all i know but there is a strong difference between ignorance and illetaracy. High flaunting designers have degree's/training/expertise that make them specialists at what they do i.e. Design. So does that mean when a doctor provides a medicial opinion to a designer he is immediately classified as uneducated? Absolutely NOT. Every educated individual has a certain expertise in which he/she excels. It just comes down to what the topic of discussion is.

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Old 23rd October 2008, 12:07   #22
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wicked designs!!!! nice one JRD, man resists change like none other, hence the reactions, i mean take 15 yes ago i would have never imagined a car like the civic would be readily available to the public, if i had seen the same design all those yrs ago along with talks of hybrid power or even hi-tech clean diesel engines being favoured over conventional gasoline engines, i would have jus laughed it off. its guys like these designers who have the nuts to challenge conventional ideas and likes.

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Are they launched in India ? Or anyone has spotted masked company test-drives taking place ?

Now, a practical question ! How safe are these futuristic designs ? Suppose you hit a wall or a similar species, would your family get atleast some powdered content of your existence ?
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[quote=zaks;1025331]What's life without a little imagination, duh../quote]

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@ zaks: Well Said.! no imagination = no future
Yes, well said.
But he said "a little imagination"..and not to go bonkers.
The key is NOT TO OVERDO it.

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@ howler: you mean us designers right??
(p.s: JRD is a humble designer as well)
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@shajufx: LOL i would say liquid content!!
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Old 23rd October 2008, 22:12   #27
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I love these cars, and have been waiting to see stuff like this on our roads ever since i started watching sci fi movies 15 yrs ago.
whats wrong with a little dreaming?
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@JRD, pls do not post back-to-back msgs like you have done above - 2 posts, 1 min between them. Pls use the multi-quote feature.
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JRD, I am on your side I like the Mitsu probably because it is the closest to a regular car we see around compared to all the others or not?

Great stuff to know/see. Gives an idea of whats going on around and how everything might just shape up in 50 years. Excellent thread and yes as somebody said - we resist change and that's human nature, so all those comments..
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Looks like a lot of designers just unwinding and sketching out their fantasies.
A: Unwinding-Sketching-Fantasies: Trust me all of these are much much harder then you think it is. It takes tremendous amounts of creativity to come up with concepts like these.
I am sure when the designers presented these sketches, each of the teams sent one of their designers along with it to explain to the judges what the heck they mean and what is their purpose. Without such an explanation or an accompanying text, these designs are nothing more than some graphic designers fantasy sketches.

Your comparison to award winning Mercedes and BMW designs is not a valid comparison. All those concept cars would have published engine specs, tech specs, designs specs and materials used and only then will people see the feasibility of design. These fantasy sketches need an explanation too... what kind of technology advances do they foresee in 17 years to conjure such wild machines, what kinda materials do they see being used to design a Honda that can run on water, fly in air and float on water, or what advantages do a spoke style tyre provide over a regular circular tyre for a Mitsubishi off-roader. Without knowing any of these, the designs are not any different from the millions of photoshop create wallpapers on internet.

Since you have asserted that THIS IS DESIGN, the onus is on you to tell us why THIS IS THE DESIGN and why we should bow in front of it and drool all over. You don't ask us to google for it.

PS: The other reason why I think Viper asked for the link is because whenever you post any images from another site, forum rules (and internet etiquette) requires you to post a link to the original site.

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