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Old 2nd October 2006, 13:07   #661
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BTW the S-class hearse above uses E-class brake lights! Are both pictures of the same car? 'Cause apart from the lights everything else seems to be S-class.
Judging by the wiper, it looks like an W210 E-class with S-class head lights. Mercedes do supply selectively partially elongated E class station wagons to coachbuilders for hearses. limo builds. www.binz.com is a key example
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Old 2nd October 2006, 13:10   #662
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Hmmm now that you mention it the door handles, wheels & the side-mirrors seem to be E-class!! Maybe Ram can throw more light on this conversion. Also in the lower picture the bonnet & door profile seem to be E-class but looking at the front the lights are confusing me!
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If you want to go in a CLS (might be a Eclass with a cLS snout) - here

Lets get back to topic and see the power of Google!
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BTW the S-class hearse above uses E-class brake lights! Are both pictures of the same car? 'Cause apart from the lights everything else seems to be S-class.
iraghava, both pictures are indeed of the same car.

In station wagons, sedan deliveries , ambulances and hearses, moreso non-factory built ones, there is no constraint on using parts from the same car.
e.g. Fiat's original factory-built 1968 1100R (Rinnovato) estate did not use Fiat 1100R tail lights,
but instead used tail-lights from the Fiat 1100D (Delight).

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Another easy one for the experts here.

ID 170 :
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ID 170 Isuzu Aska

Jap version based on the GM Jcar platform th basis of hte 1982 onwards Opel Ascona and Vauxhall Cavelier as well as the Holden Camira
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Its indeed the Isuzu Aska. Dang! I should stop posting questions on this thread.. Mine are just too easy.
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ID:171



What is this beautiful black and grey sedan with the soft canvas foldable sunroof?
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hmm...remarkably similar to the humber sceptre series...but not! definitely english though...i need more time!
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1960-61. Humber Super Snipe The twin headlamps came post 1965.
It could even be the Imperial as post 1960 the new Imperial also came out which shared its body with the earlier Hawk and the Super Snipe. This was only available with a saloon body but had a choice of a partition glass.
6 cyls, 2965cc 131bhp. Earlier cars had 2651cc 114bhp @ 5000rpm
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ID:162 is a 1969 Datsun Sports 2000 SRL311.

Datsun (now known as Nissan) of Japan started to produce a series of spiders in the 'sixties. These were called Fairlady in Japan and simply Sports outside Japan. Somewhat similar to the British MG and Triumph spiders, these cabriolets started with the 1959 Datsun Sports S211 and went on till 1970 with the Datsun Sports SP311 and SR311.

ID:162 is wearing aftermarket alloy wheels and is missing the chrome trim moulding along the side, behind the flared front wheel arch. But the teardrop sidemarkers and chrome headlight buckets and left-hand drive, announce it as a 1969 Datsun Sports 2000 SRL311.

It had a 1,982 cc Datsun U20 engine SOHC engine producing 135 bhp, mated to a Porsche-designed 5-speed, all-synchromesh gearbox with well-spaced ratios.

An interesting option was the Datsun-authorized, dealer-installed competition kit, consisting of twin, dual-choke side draft Mikuni-Solex carbs, a finned seven-quart oil sump, and a special hot camshaft. With the competition package the 2-litre engine put out 150 bhp. A well-tuned stock Datsun 2000 was capable of cruising at 193 km/h while still delivering 12.8 km/litre.

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Theres a slight difference....its a datsun fairlady 1600.
The similarity between is remakable but post 1960's the side light could be ordered as an option. The 1600 was a low and stylish car and had european lines
It was only made in LHD between 1965-70, as was only meant for American markets and was not sold in local japan, so was never made in RHD
The rear three quarter view was very MGB and Midget and as the MGB, the Fairlady had bolt on removable front wings for easy repair
It had a 1595cc 90 bhp @ 6000rpmengine till 1970.
The four cyl engine had a cast iron cylinder block and alloy head, breathing through twin Hitachi carbs, mad eunder licence from SU, England.
The 2000 in 1967 was a two litre, twin cam 145bhp car and had a five speed overdrive gearbox, whereas the 1600 had a four speed all syncro gearbox.

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[quote=V-16]ID 171

Humber Super Snipe The twin headlamps came post 1965.(corrected as post 1960)
It could even be the Imperial as post 1960 the new Imperial also came out which shared its body with the earlier Hawk and the Super Snipe. This was only available with a saloon body but had a choice of a partition glass.
6 cyls, 2965cc 131bhp. Earlier cars had 2651cc 114bhp @ 5000rpm[/QUOT



A little more light on !D 171:
The Series I Super Snipe was introduced in 1958 with a 2655cc Six Cylinder engine, and sharing the same bodyshell as its smaller engined stablemate, the Humber Hawk, which used a 2267cc four cylinder engine. Although mainly sold as a "saloon", other versions of the vehicle included the "limouisine" and "estate" models.

The Super Snipe featured a 3 speed manual transmission with optional overdrive - early examples had the overdrive available on both second and third gears, however later models would have the overdrive restricted to 3rd gear only. Available as an option (and in keeping with the luxurious nature of the car) was the ever-reliable three speed Borg Warner auto.

1960 saw the introduction of a larger 2965cc engine for the series III. This engine would remain unchanged (except for different carburetor setups) right up to the last Humber made, the Series V of 1967.

Also introduced that year was the familiar 4 headlamp setup. Claimed by many to be a first for the British car industry, particularly on medium priced sedans, the extra headlights at least made it easy to distinguish a Series 3 from it's predecessors.

The Series V, introduced in late 1964, was squared up considerably in comparison to the previous Series I to IV models which had all shared the same basic shell. The Series V also sported twin Stromberg 175 carbutors, boosting power to 128 hp and propelling the car up to speeds close to 100 mph (160 km/h).

In 1968 the Super Snipe was discontinued, and the Hillman Hunter style of Humber Sceptre that was previously based on a Hillman Super Minx bodyshell took its place as the last model of Humber available, being continued up to 1976.

Humber Super Snipe Series I - V
1958 - 1967
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Engine: Six Cylinder OHV
Capacity: 2655 cc (Series I) 2965cc (Series II - V)
Power: 105 bhp (Series I), 121 bhp (Series II - III), 124.5 bhp (Series IV), 128.5 bhp (Series V)
Transmission: 3 speed man (with overdrive) and 3 speed auto
Top Speed: 100 mph (Series V)

The Ragtop as seen on the shown car may have been an aftermarket fitting.

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Theres a slight difference....its a datsun fairlady 1600.
The similarity between is remakable but post 1960's the side light could be ordered as an option.
As I said before, the LHD export model had chrome badges that said "Sport"
and the RHD model for Japan had chrome badges that said "Fairlady".

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It was only made in LHD between 1965-70, as was only meant for American markets and was not sold in local japan, so was never made in RHD.
I have actually driven in a white 1967 model Datsun Fairlady in Shin-Yokohama. I don't know where you get your data

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The similarity between is remakable but post 1960's the side light could be ordered as an option.
I studied both the 1600's and the 2000's manuals before coming up with this answer. You must know the difference between SRL311, SR311 and SP211 variants. The sheetmetal of the 1600 and 2000 were identical.

The car in your pic has aftermarket wheels, it has the teardrop sidemarket, a chrome spear missing, it has the Datsun 2000 chrome headlamp buckets instead of Datsun 1600 satin-finish headlamp buckets and it has the Datsun 2000 grille. Too many mods.

Of course all these could be removed from a 2000 and mounted on a 1600 to disguise it as a 2000. And if they were, the only thing to do is pop open the hood and look at the engine. It is not improbable that, that can be transplanted and modded as well.

All these point to the car being a 1969 Datsun 2000 and not a 1600!

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Try this one............
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ID 172

thats the 65 BMC austin 1800...commonly known as "landcrab"...was marketed as the "astounding austin 1800"...production carried into the 70s...

do note one VW hubcap!
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