[Ram]

ID:223

What's this green 4-door sedan?

[Ram]

ID:223, the big green sedan in the picture is the Leyland P76 Targa Florio.

The Leyland P76 was designed & built in Australia back in 1973-74.
Around 18,000 cars were made. It had a 4.4 litre Rover alloy V8 mated to a 3-speed automatic.

Aussies that own them today find them a very comfortable good car to keep with pride.

Australia was once a captive consumer of small British 4-cylinder cars. Morris Minor and Austin A40 Farina abounded.

However the Aussies found that their longer distance driving and rougher roads called for bigger stronger cars than the small British front-wheel-drives.
A spacious car with a light alloy V8, to compete against offerings from Holden(GM), Valiant(Chrysler) and Ford.
But big heavy Brits like the Jaguar XJ6 were overpriced.

The Aussies wanted an economically priced, big car that would do all this.

A V8 in an enlarged British design would be too expensive to manufacture.
So a fresh new front-engined, rear wheel drive car was designed.

They came up with a square-stroke alloy Rover 4.4 litre V8 engine
fed by a Bendix Stromberg two-barrel carburettor.

The body design parameters were:
strength, simplicity, ease of maintenance and massive passenger and luggage space.

Michelotti did the wide, flat wedge styling with a low nose, deep hip-lines and a big, squared-off tail.
Body parts were kept few to add strength and save welding time and cost.

$21 million and 5 years and 500,000 miles of testing later, the Leyland P76 was ready for the showrooms.



The tail was a little out of character with the rest of the car.

But finish was bad. The doors fitted badly and leaked water.
The instrument cluster and centre console worked loose and squeaked.

Eventually, poor build quality of the cars sent the company broke.
And bad press delivered the coup de grâce killing off whatever sales there was.

Ram

[shebz7]

So anything else any1?

[V-16]

Re ID 223:
U got me there Ram, great pick.Before I waw them in Australia a few years ago I did'nt know they existed. Was wondering what a Volga was doing in Oz (the rear lights etc do resemble the volgas) but when saw the front it looked like a Ford gone wrong. after a chase round a few blocks i came to see the car ...but It just did'nt come to mind lookin at the pics. A little more on the Leyland P76;
One particularly amusing 'period' feature of the P76 was the colours offered. Typical of the bold colours in vogue at that time, they were apparently based on standard Dulux colour codes, but some stuffed shirt at Leyland decided to get creative and gave them idiosyncratic names as; “Home On Th'Orange”, “Am Eye Blue”, “Bold As Brass”, “Peel Me A Grape” (a metallic purple), “Hairy Lime” and “Plum Loco”.

Demand for the P76 at first exceeded supply, but before long quality control problems emerged (including one which reportedly caused the wheels to fall off! Would you believe this?!). These were compounded by simple bad timing: the P76 appeared at a time of industrial unrest in Australia and Leyland was further hampered by strikes at component suppliers. All this slowed down production and supply and created a bad impression with the media and the public. What influence Leyland’s rivals Ford, Holden and Chrysler may have had i this is speculative, but given that the P76 was in many respects superior to the competition it is not unreasonable to assume that, at the very least, a certain amount of media “spin-doctoring” may have occurred.

[V-16]

ID:224

[jilteddude]

Originally Posted by Stratos

Thats a Kia Opirus.!!!

I thot it was our very own eclass.

[Ram]

Originally Posted by V-16

ID:224

ID:224 is a 1960 Datsun Sakura 211.



It had a Datsun E, 1189 cc 4-cylinder OHV engine that developed 48 bhp.
Specifications were just like a 48 bhp Premier Padmini S1.

The 4-speed gearbox had a remote lever on the steering column.
The 211 was a conventional front engine rear wheel drive car.



The same engine also powered the Datsun 222 pickup truck



and the 1960 Datsun Fairlady S212 roadster.



It rode on 5.00-15 tires. Approximately 146 of these black cars (it didn't come in any color except black) were sold from mid-1959 to mid-1961.

I saw this car in 1995 at the Toyota Museum in Nagakute-cho town (45 minutes from Nagoya). Written about my Japan impressions here.

Back in the late fifties, Japan was still building its highways and much of Japan was dusty unpaved roads. The Datsun 211 came to be known as Isha-no Datsun as many Japanese doctors used them.

Ram

[V-16]

Great , ID 224 is indeed the Datsun 211.
1960 Datsun 211

This utility car enjoyed a good reputation as easy to use and economical. At the time of its production, Datsun was thinking ahead to Japan's near future, and built cars for a Japan that would have highways, too. And as you rightly said, they came to be known as "the Town Doctor's Datsun," since town doctors often used these cars to make house calls. Do you see a striking resemblance to our own “DUKKAR” Fiat?

ENGINE SPECS:
Engine Type: 1000/1100cc Four
Valves: 8 valves total -2 valves per cylinder-
Displacement: 985 cc

[Ram]

Originally Posted by V-16

Engine Type: 1000/1100cc Four
Valves: 8 valves total -2 valves per cylinder-
Displacement: 985 cc

The 1960 Datsun 211 had a Datsun E engine.
This had a displacement of 1189 cc, not 985 cc.
985 cc does not produce 48 bhp without fuel-injection or turbosupercharging.
All this baby could afford was a single barrel downdraught carburetor.
All 4-cylinder engines in the 1960s had one inlet valve and one exhaust valve per cylinder.
The 16-valve tech was only available on DOHC Italian sports cars.

[Ram]

ID:225
This should be really easy.
What's this large metallic-grey four-door sedan?

[karlosdeville]

ID 225

thats a Tatra T 613..made from 73 to 96, designed by vignale, and it still sported an aircooled v8!

[Ram]

Originally Posted by karlosdeville

ID 225
thats a Tatra T 613..made from 73 to 96, designed by vignale, and it still sported an aircooled v8!

Yes Karl, it’s a Tatra T613 designed by Carrozzeria Vignale in 1968.

The 3.5 litre aircooled V8 had quad overhead camshafts. It breathed through two double barrel carburettors and was fired by a capacitive discharge electronic ignition.

The engine put out 165 bhp @ 5200 rpm and propelled the 1600 kg behemoth to peak out at 186 km/h.

With such a big engine in the rear, a clumsily designed car would have been tail-heavy. But unlike our Volvo B7R coach, Tatra mounted the rear axle under the engine, alongside the oil sump rather than in front of it. The Tatra T613 is the only production car in the whole world with this 'semi-mid engine' configuration.
This posed the issue of the driveshafts clearing the oil sump. One drive shaft actually went through the oil sump!!!

The four-speed gearbox was positioned forward of the axle.

All four wheels had large disc brakes with twin-circuits and a servo.

But Karl, in which year would you place ID:225, within the thirteen-year range (1973..1996) during which the T613 and its derivatives were produced ?

Ram

[Ram]

ID:226



Fittingly, this pic is from the movie with the song, "अरे दीवानों, मुझे पहचानो; कहाँसे आया, मैं हूँ कौन ?!!"
Guess the make of this car: no marks
Guess the model name: passing marks.
Guess the model year: scoring marks.

Hint: The Mumbai registration plate bears no correlation to the age of the car.

Ram

[karlosdeville]

ID 225 is between 80 and 84, judging by the chrome, wheel covers and door handles...

[karlosdeville]

ID 226

this is a 1964 chevy impala...besides the badging, am not sure how you distinguish an SS from a regular though...methinks this is a regular.