[sajo]

Originally Posted by karlosdeville

ID 226

this is a 1964 chevy impala...besides the badging, am not sure how you distinguish an SS from a regular though...methinks this is a regular.

Yep! Same as this RHD version :

[Ram]

Originally Posted by ram

ID:226


Fittingly, this pic is from the movie with the song, "अरे दीवानों, मुझे पहचानो; कहाँसे आया, मैं हूँ कौन ?!!"
Guess the make of this car: no marks
Guess the model name: passing marks.
Guess the model year: scoring marks.

Hint: The Mumbai registration plate bears no correlation to the age of the car.

Ram

Originally Posted by karlosdeville

ID 226
this is a 1964 chevy impala...besides the badging, am not sure how you distinguish an SS from a regular though...methinks this is a regular.

Externally, the 1964 Impala, BelAir and Biscayne were distinguishable by presence or absence of stainless steel trim elements, flashy wheelcovers and bodystyles.

The convertibles, two-doors and pillarless hardtops were higher end than the
conventional four-door three pillar sedans.

The SS hardtop coupe would have bucket seats, center console and console mounted shifter.

Their engines.
The bottom mill was the 230 cid, 140 bhp straight six.
Then there was the 283 cid 195bhp V8.
At the top was the 409 cid 425 bhp V8 with four-speed automatic transmission and a Positraction differential.

ID:225 cannot be an SS as it is clearly a 4-door sedan. SS were only made as 2-door sport coupes or convertibles.

As ID:225 has the end-to-end chrome spear, it's not a Biscayne. Has to be a Bel Air or Impala.

The Bel Air 4-door sedan was a regular 3-pillar. The pilarless 4 door, therefore by elimination has to be an Impala (non SS).

Ram

[V-16]

Originally Posted by ram

The 1960 Datsun 211 had a Datsun E engine.
This had a displacement of 1189 cc, not 985 cc.
The 16-valve tech was only available on DOHC Italian sports cars.

Yup the 60 did have a 48bhp engine. On the other hand, the 985cc WAS available from 58 till mid 59. This was the borrowed plant from the outgoing 210 wherein in 58-59 till the 1185 engine was used, the car had the same mechanicals as the 210 except the body, something our country was very adept at (Amb mark II, III, IV etc, and the premier president, padmini)
Never said the 211 had a 16 valve technology...?????

[Ram]

ID:227
Guess this handsome four door saloon with formal white wall tires.

[Ram]

ID:227 is a 1960 Nissan Cedric 30 Series.

It debuted in March 1960, a vehicle of exceptional quality.
The 1960 model had the head lights stacked vertically one on top of the other.

Nissan's President: Katsuji Kawamata chose the rather odd name: "Cedric".
Cedric Errol was the central character in the 1886 book "Little Lord Fauntleroy" by Frances Burnett.
Kawamata (and the Japanese) loved the book about the little Lord Cedric with his noble courage, obedience and respect towards his elders -- finest Oriental values (from India and China to Japan) for a growing young man. The name Cedric supposedly brought to mind, a lively, honest, and handsome young boy.

Back in the mid 1960s (now they know better), the Japanese imagined that
the novel was known, read, and loved by nearly all English speaking people.
The expectation: that English-speaking countries would associate the name Cedric with most honorable qualities.

Sadly how different Oriental and Western cultures actually are!

Post second world war, Nissan assembled British Austins under licence. After they stopped assembling Austins, some Nissans still resembled Austins.

The Japanese dramatically improved the Austin engine designs, increasing efficiency and power thanks to better balancing and greater precision manufacture.
(put a Cedric cylinder head on an MGB. It'll fit perfectly and give the MG an extra 5 bhp minimum!)

The Cedric series 30 had the 1488cc OHV 4cyl. G series engine.
That developed 71bhp @ 5000 rpm & 113 Newton-m @ 3200 rpm.
There was even a larger engine as option -- the Nissan H-series 1883cc 95bhp OHV.

The 4 speed gearbox had synchromesh on 2nd, 3rd and 4th.

The 1960 Nissan Cedric had Japan's first padded dashboard.

Ram

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by ram

ID:227 is a 1960 Nissan Cedric 30 Series.

Ram

I spotted a Nissan Cedric in trivandrum.... Am posting its pic...

Can you guys tell me the year and other details of this model???

(Not a quiz as such... Should be too easy for you guys... Sorry for poor pic... Cam phone... Plus, it was raining hard... )

ID 228:

[sajo]

@crazy driver : ID 228 is probably a post 1987 Nissan Cedric Y31.

[Ram]

ID:229
Guess this interesting four door sedan.





Doesn't the rear turn-signal and reverse lamp combination look like something from an early Hindustan Ambassador Mark II?

Wouldn't you have sworn it had classic sixties Pininfarina six-cyl. looks, like the Peugeot 404, Morris Oxford, Fiat 1800, Austin A55 Cambridge, ... .?

[V-16]

ID:230

[karlosdeville]

im eager to know what ID 229 is...moreso since its a diesel! do the honours ram?

[iraghava]

ID 230:Ford Torino .

[iraghava]

'68 or '69, also used in the TV series/Movie "Starsky & Hutch"!

[V-16]

Originally Posted by iraghava

ID 230:Ford Torino .

Nope Sirjee niether is it a Nova nor a Torino.

ID:230 is a 1968 Mercury Cyclone GT:



The Cyclone was a wannabe Mustang and then later a wannabe Charger. The 68 era of fastbacks got it to imitate the body styling of the Charger but was not successful. It was facing stiff competition from within its own stable by more popular siblings like the Cougar etc, besides the competitor's cars it so wanted to imitate. Altough a good looking car, it was highly impractical due to its almost horizontal rear window which made it impossible for anyone to sit behind and almost no boot space.
The Cyclone and the Cyclone GT were distinguished by the placement of the body tape striping. The GT came with thin Whiite Walls and bucket seats as standard, amongst other things.



This is a 68 Torino GT. An interesting fact: "Torino," the car's name is the name of an Italian city of Turin and this name was originally proposed for the Mustang while in development. Note how similr all these cars are to the Charger.




The Dual exhausts and spoiler are after market



The Gran Torino in Starsky & Hutch is a 1976. This is the 76 Gran Torino GT used in Starsky & Hutch



This is the Nova

[Ram]

Originally Posted by karlosdeville

im eager to know what ID 229 is...moreso since its a diesel! do the honours ram?

ID:229 is a 1964 Isuzu Bellel Diesel.



Isuzu had a 1953 license from the Rootes Group UK to build their Hillman Minx. Minxes were built until 1960. The Bellel's suspension is modeled after the Minx.

Notwithstanding that, the Isuzu Bellel was Isuzu's first independent design, and Japan's first diesel car.

Isuzu literally means "fifty bells" in Japanese. The Roman numeral for 50 is L. Thus Bell-L became Bellel!

Nice aluminium die-cast grille!

The Bellel was made from 1961 to 1966. It came with a selection of two petrol and one diesel engines all of which fed into a three-speed gearbox.

A 1,991 cc OHV petrol engine that developed 86 bhp @ 4600 rpm, came with the original 1961 model. This was followed by
a smaller 1,491 cc OHV petrol engine that developed 73 bhp @ 5000 rpm. After 1963, the 2-litre motor was upgraded to put out 95 bhp.

In 1962 came an interesting 1991 cc OHV diesel engine that developed 56 bhp @ 3800 rpm.

It was noisy and rattly, like diesels of those days, but understandably, the Isuzu Bellel diesel made a hugely successful Tokyo taxi.


As an aside, the Peugeot 404 was also a successful diesel taxi in its time. The Mahindra 2112 cc XDP 4.90 diesel is derived from the diesel that powered the old 404. Both the Isuzu and the Peugeot were pretty harsh diesels, a far cry from today's common rails.

Ram

[ajmat]

Ram got us there - 1 beer for him !