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Originally Posted by Jomz My experiance was , the dealer gave me extended warranty. So even if PP was 1-2k less I would have still gone with the delaer.
I negotiate on OTD prices and compare with Kbb Private party value, So I think I made a good deal on the car. I don't really care what is the hidden fees when negotiating OTD prices.
Maybe it was a trade in and he got it at a cheap price, I don't know.
Anyway my point is Do not run away from delaers, You never know when they will cut a nice deal , or when they are desperate to sell. If you don't negotiate well, maybe they will STEAL from you. |
As i mentioned before, if you get an awesome deal that is great in your area. Don't let it go. I did the same thing. You did the same thing. But you are just going off track with what i am trying to say so i am just gonna say YMMV.
You may be just concerned with OTD price but that includes everything. The co-worker that finalized Veracruz did the same thing. He finalized the OTD price but when he sat to sign all the paperwork, in one of those legal papers was a small note saying that you are paying a few things extra.
Not all customers are as savvy as we are. We do our research, we do our analysis, our bottom most price and go from there. I know most of my friends couldn't be bothered with all these and just go out and buy a car on a whim. For them, all these doesn't apply and that is where they make money.
Since you have no idea how the dealer got the car I can easily say that he made more than enough to give you extended warranty and a low price. In my case, the sales person was very open and he mentioned how a doctor traded in the vette for a 7-series and accidentally showed me how much the dealership traded it in. Mind you, even after agreeing to the price, the dealer made a cool $5k on it.
As for that extended warranty, was it a certified warranty or a warranty from the dealer itself in which case it costs nothing for them to provide as when time comes they are gonna make you run circles around that warranty. Again been there done that.
And, please read my post carefully. I never mentioned running away from dealers. If that would have been the case, i wouldn't have bought my second car from a dealer after paying a little bit more from previous dealer and if i look back now, i don't mind paying $240 more then as i got a great piece of metal that makes me smile each day i drive.
The second time i was more careful, did my research and made sure everything was in order. It applies to everybody and still they STEAL. The earlier you accept, the earlier it will be better for you. If they don't steal from a deal that they make with you, they will need to shut shop. Also, ever heard about making money from parts and service by providing you excellent sales experience?
I don't mind the dealer makes a little profit of me unless i am happy with the deal. Till then they can do all they want but they won't earn my business and i had be happy to take it elsewhere.
Anyway, we are way off-topic from where we started on tax. Its a often beaten path of dealers-private party debate and each one has own experience to share. Its good to be aware of what's happening elsewhere but sorry to burst your bubble, but all is not well in stealership world.
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Originally Posted by Technocrat I have a question, Why do people who own cars (often multiple) rent cars? I can understand the scenario where one is travelling with more people or luggage or if one has 10 year old model & has concerns about reliability on long journeys but I have seen folks with relatively newer cars(4-5 year old) & still renting out.
Isn't that more expensive?
One of the reasons I have heard is to avoid clocking miles on their personal car to save on resale. I would think that over a long period one would spend more on renting than the loss in resale if they used their own car. |
My friends believe in your reasoning. I don't agree with them. But when going out with friends, its best to rent so everybody can drive and have peace of mind about any damage to the vehicle.
We took a Explorer to Mammoth Lake and we went to a crater there that had a 2 mile off-road. Had we gone in a friend's SUV, we would have not gone there since it would mean lots of body scratches and bad road for suspension. With the rental Explorer we didn't worry about going and went there and had lots of fun.
I am one of the few who despite having two cars will still have to do a rental for long trips or airport runs and luggage space and comfort are not the positives of G35.
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Originally Posted by kraft.wagen Indeed my experience with folks has always been for the said reason, Munching more miles leads to lower resale.
But the other reasons could be, sharing the rental price with bunch of friends, sharing the long drives, and hmm may be feel and drive newer cars, different models. |