F1 2011 -Grand Prix De Monaco

PAVAN KADAM · 25th May 2011, 20:19

A very exciting Mediterranean track.

I am really excited about this Street Circuit, Hope we get to see a race different from those MONOTONOUS all this while.

Anyone remembers any SAFETY CAR INCIDENTS this season

They have become very very scarce.. We might see something as this Circuit is considered as the most UNSAFE track for F1.

RACE TIMINGS

Thu 26 May 2011

Practice 1 13:30 - 15:00
Practice 2 17:30 - 19:00

Sat 28 May 2011

Practice 3 14:30 - 15:30

Qualifying 17:30

Sun 29 May 2011

Race 17:30

TRACK STATISTICS - MONTE CARLO
Race Date : 29 May 2011
Circuit Name : Circuit de Monaco
Number of Laps : 78
Circuit Length : 3.340 km
Race Distance : 260.520 km
Lap Record : 1:14.439 - M Schumacher (2004)

Very surprised to know that this race FREEZES the city for a full 2 months

Shubz · 25th May 2011, 20:22

Good start Pavan sir!

Even I am badly hoping to see a new line up (read RED) at the front! We haven't seen rain on the circuit either (for the safety car).

Pat Dry is supposed to be the master strategist! where has his mastery all gone?

D33-PAC · 25th May 2011, 21:00

Meh, the RBRs will end up on top during qualifying and as usual they/or atleast of of them win the race again. Monaco isn't an overtaking track either hence no excitement. Anyway I hope we do see something different like you said

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If there's anyone it's probably Webber that's the most excited about this race! 2010 repeat, anyone!?

cruiser@0523 · 25th May 2011, 21:25

The first race i will be watching this season, thanks to very "interesting" races. Hope to see some action.

SchumiFan · 25th May 2011, 21:37

Posting after a long time

I feel the Ferrari's or at least Alonso will come alive in Monaco. The hard tire which seems to be the culprit for Ferrari's poor performance is not allocated for Monaco and they are pretty soft on the tires which should give hope for their drivers.

RB are a sure shot for the win but I would place Ferrari above Macca for this race as they seem to traditionally do well here.

Vamos Alonso!

Shubz · 25th May 2011, 22:58

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Originally Posted by SchumiFan

Posting after a long time

I feel the Ferrari's or at least Alonso will come alive in Monaco. The hard tire which seems to be the culprit for Ferrari's poor performance is not allocated for Monaco and they are pretty soft on the tires which should give hope for their drivers.

RB are a sure shot for the win but I would place Ferrari above Macca for this race as they seem to traditionally do well here.

Vamos Alonso!

^^+1 - the hard tires were coming down hard on the drivers (please note that I am not saying they were hard for the Scuderians only) Not taking the credit away from RB and Mc's but I bleed RED!!

mgh · 26th May 2011, 12:52

Last year nine cars did not finish for one reason or the other.
Let us hope for similar excitement this time as well.

GTO · 26th May 2011, 15:41

I absolutely love the Monaco track. Most people find it boring, but the camera shots are to die for. Especially the close-ups of the cars snaking their way through the lap, or bouncing off right after the Nouvelle.

Sorry Ferrari fans, but I doubt they are going to make it to the front row. The performance advantage of the Bulls is still much too significant.

VW2010 · 26th May 2011, 16:50

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The performance advantage of the Bulls

They carry fantastic downforce and they will run away in this circuit. Mclaren has better straight line speed which may not be a great talking point in this circuit.

Mercedes struggle mostly in the slow corners. Now i wonder if that will impact their 5-8 finish this time around.

Renault will be a team to watch out for.

anachronix · 26th May 2011, 16:54

^^ Not just downforce would help on Monaco or any street circuit, but also the mechanical grip of the car. Downforce is proportional to the speed of the car and it doesnt help much through half of the Monaco lap.

VW2010 · 26th May 2011, 17:00

Downforce just creates more grip. Or that was my understanding. please correct and i will stand corrected

for good. Mechanically most of these cars are similar. How they aerodynamically differ is what we will see this weekend. Its my humble opinion

Newpunter · 26th May 2011, 17:08

Downforce is useful in tracks with fast flowing corners. In Slow corners like in Monaco, mechanical grip is more important than down force that is generated by the Aero.

good.car-ma · 26th May 2011, 17:10

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Originally Posted by Shubz

Good start Pavan sir!

Even I am badly hoping to see a new line up (read RED) at the front! We haven't seen rain on the circuit either (for the safety car).

Pat Dry is supposed to be the master strategist! where has his mastery all gone?

Maybe we havent seen rain because Pat Dry is a master strategist

Sorry Shubz, i couldn't resist that! but you're right, we are yet to see him at his best. Maybe he doesnt have a free run of the team yet

anachronix · 26th May 2011, 17:11

Downforce means more grip, yes! But Downforce is achieved by aero or I should say how the car is designed to channel the air for a better flow at higher speeds.

The mechanical grip is something that comes from the suspension, tires, CoG or weight distribution and the chassis as a whole and mechanically none of the cars are similar!

Shubz · 26th May 2011, 18:03

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Originally Posted by good.car-ma

Maybe we havent seen rain because Pat Dry is a master strategist

Sorry Shubz, i couldn't resist that! but you're right, we are yet to see him at his best. Maybe he doesnt have a free run of the team yet

that was good! but how can a team of the stature of Ferrari take chances by not letting Pat dry himself well in the paddock?

25th May 2011, 20:19	#1
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	F1 2011 -Grand Prix De Monaco A very exciting Mediterranean track. I am really excited about this Street Circuit, Hope we get to see a race different from those MONOTONOUS all this while. Anyone remembers any SAFETY CAR INCIDENTS this season They have become very very scarce.. We might see something as this Circuit is considered as the most UNSAFE track for F1. RACE TIMINGS Thu 26 May 2011 Practice 1 13:30 - 15:00 Practice 2 17:30 - 19:00 Sat 28 May 2011 Practice 3 14:30 - 15:30 Qualifying 17:30 Sun 29 May 2011 Race 17:30 TRACK STATISTICS - MONTE CARLO Race Date : 29 May 2011 Circuit Name : Circuit de Monaco Number of Laps : 78 Circuit Length : 3.340 km Race Distance : 260.520 km Lap Record : 1:14.439 - M Schumacher (2004) Very surprised to know that this race FREEZES the city for a full 2 months Attached Thumbnails
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25th May 2011, 20:22	#2
Shubz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,905 Thanked: 1,154 Times	Re: F1 2011 -Grand Prix De Monaco Good start Pavan sir! Even I am badly hoping to see a new line up (read RED) at the front! We haven't seen rain on the circuit either (for the safety car). Pat Dry is supposed to be the master strategist! where has his mastery all gone?
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25th May 2011, 21:00	#3
D33-PAC BANNED Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 911 Thanked: 1,544 Times	Re: F1 2011 -Grand Prix De Monaco Meh, the RBRs will end up on top during qualifying and as usual they/or atleast of of them win the race again. Monaco isn't an overtaking track either hence no excitement. Anyway I hope we do see something different like you said ! If there's anyone it's probably Webber that's the most excited about this race! 2010 repeat, anyone!?
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cruiser@0523 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 197 Thanked: 72 Times	Re: F1 2011 -Grand Prix De Monaco The first race i will be watching this season, thanks to very "interesting" races. Hope to see some action.
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25th May 2011, 21:37	#5
SchumiFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,041 Thanked: 1,161 Times	Re: F1 2011 -Grand Prix De Monaco Posting after a long time I feel the Ferrari's or at least Alonso will come alive in Monaco. The hard tire which seems to be the culprit for Ferrari's poor performance is not allocated for Monaco and they are pretty soft on the tires which should give hope for their drivers. RB are a sure shot for the win but I would place Ferrari above Macca for this race as they seem to traditionally do well here. Vamos Alonso!
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26th May 2011, 12:52	#7
mgh BHPian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 396 Thanked: 40 Times	Re: F1 2011 -Grand Prix De Monaco Last year nine cars did not finish for one reason or the other. Let us hope for similar excitement this time as well.
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26th May 2011, 15:41	#8
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,534 Thanked: 300,743 Times View My Garage	Re: F1 2011 -Grand Prix De Monaco I absolutely love the Monaco track. Most people find it boring, but the camera shots are to die for. Especially the close-ups of the cars snaking their way through the lap, or bouncing off right after the Nouvelle. Sorry Ferrari fans, but I doubt they are going to make it to the front row. The performance advantage of the Bulls is still much too significant.
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26th May 2011, 16:54	#10
anachronix Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Madras Posts: 3,286 Thanked: 1,336 Times View My Garage	Re: F1 2011 -Grand Prix De Monaco ^^ Not just downforce would help on Monaco or any street circuit, but also the mechanical grip of the car. Downforce is proportional to the speed of the car and it doesnt help much through half of the Monaco lap.
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VW2010 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: electricity Posts: 2,763 Thanked: 3,413 Times	Re: F1 2011 -Grand Prix De Monaco Downforce just creates more grip. Or that was my understanding. please correct and i will stand corrected for good. Mechanically most of these cars are similar. How they aerodynamically differ is what we will see this weekend. Its my humble opinion Last edited by VW2010 : 26th May 2011 at 17:05.
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Newpunter BHPian Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 744 Thanked: 336 Times	Re: F1 2011 -Grand Prix De Monaco Downforce is useful in tracks with fast flowing corners. In Slow corners like in Monaco, mechanical grip is more important than down force that is generated by the Aero.
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26th May 2011, 17:11	#14
anachronix Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Madras Posts: 3,286 Thanked: 1,336 Times View My Garage	Re: F1 2011 -Grand Prix De Monaco Downforce means more grip, yes! But Downforce is achieved by aero or I should say how the car is designed to channel the air for a better flow at higher speeds. The mechanical grip is something that comes from the suspension, tires, CoG or weight distribution and the chassis as a whole and mechanically none of the cars are similar!
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