2012 F1 - Australian Grand Prix

sajidclt · 17th March 2012, 21:14

Looks like we have an exciting race on the cards tomorrow.

McLaren and Mercedes seem to be the strongest at the moment. It would be interesting to see how the Red Bulls perform from the third row.

Though Ferrari seems to be relatively weak, Alonso might be able to get the Ferrari into the top 10.

Lotus also seems strong and Romain has a good chance to be in the top 5. And for Kimi, he seems to be in a relatively faster car - and with the double DRS zone, he hopefully would be able to make up some positions and end up in the top 8.

mgh · 17th March 2012, 21:23

Ferrari won't struggle for long. I think McLaren, Mercedes, Lotus, Red Bull, and Ferrari will be the top five teams in the early part of the season. Unless one or more move in the wrong direction as Renault did last year, it will be difficult for Force India even to maintain sixth position as they did last year. They will be definitely challenged by Toro Rosso and Williams, and also Sauber.

_chikku · 17th March 2012, 21:56

So the first penalty of the season bagged by Perez, for gearbox change. He drops from 17 to 22.

StarrySky · 17th March 2012, 22:34

1. McLaren have continued their strong year-end form last year into this year. I think Lewis is favourite for the win tomorrow. Button will probably manage his tires better, but I guess Lewis will be able to build up a sizeable lead before his tires start going away.
2. Mercedes, wow! Good to see Schumi high up on the grid.
3. Redbull don't appear to be the same force in Q3 as they were last year. The race will tell whether they have fallen behind in other areas as well. I guess they might have been even further behind if Rosberg/Kimi hadn't made mistakes.
4. Lotus - Surprise package! May have got 2 cars in top-5 if Kimi had not made the mistake in Q1.
5. Ferrari - In trouble. Alonso can forget a third title in 2012 if Ferrari does not improve in the next 2-3 races. I think they can forget the constructor's title with Massa seeming to have trouble getting into Q2.

arun_kun · 18th March 2012, 10:37

Guyz, Can any1 help with online broadcasting link where we can see live. I am outside india. Any help much appreciated.

DevilsCry · 18th March 2012, 11:46

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Originally Posted by arun_kun

Guyz, Can any1 help with online broadcasting link where we can see live. I am outside india. Any help much appreciated.

F1 Australian Grand Prix - Main Race Live Stream Online

Please everyone bookmark firstrowsports. Always there's a question regarding where to watch it.

arun_kun · 18th March 2012, 12:21

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Originally Posted by DevilsCry

F1 Australian Grand Prix - Main Race Live Stream Online

Please everyone bookmark firstrowsports. Always there's a question regarding where to watch it.

Thanks for the link, but none of them seems to work. If you don't mind can you please give me working link.

DevilsCry · 18th March 2012, 12:27

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Originally Posted by arun_kun

Thanks for the link, but none of them seems to work. If you don't mind can you please give me working link.

Erm, the link I gave you, I'm watching from it right now. And if it doesn't work, choose another link at top row. Hope you've flash enabled in your browser. Everyone watches from the same link as I'm watching right now and it works for everyone outside India as well.

redrage · 18th March 2012, 12:39

How did Webber get ahead of Alonso before the safety car? IIRC there was a 5 sec gap

khanak · 18th March 2012, 13:34

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Originally Posted by arun_kun

Thanks for the link, but none of them seems to work. If you don't mind can you please give me working link.

I listened to the bbc 5 commentary on their website. Worth a shot if you cant find another stream.

asr245 · 18th March 2012, 13:45

A very exciting race to watch if you are a F1 fan. A depressing end if you are a Williams fan (I am).

I was glad the DRS did not aid overtaking too much (not sure why). Glad RB didn't start on a winning note. Glad Jenson won instead on Lewis and will be glad if they kick Massa out!

mgh · 18th March 2012, 14:11

Last lap problem depriving Rosberg of points, and Maldonado shunting earlier, helped di Resta sneak a point for Force India. Seven teams earned points today.
Constructor's championship
1 McLaren
2 Red Bull
3 Sauber (!)
4 Ferrari
5 Lotus
6 Toro Rosso
7 Force India

arun_kun · 18th March 2012, 14:24

I feel sorry for Lewis. And i wish ferrari come back strong for the next race.

rranjith_kum · 18th March 2012, 21:16

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Originally Posted by redrage

How did Webber get ahead of Alonso before the safety car? IIRC there was a 5 sec gap

Alonso pitted at Lap 34 (or 35 not sure) Webber got in front of him in that time.
The safety car was just after lap 37

DevilsCry · 18th March 2012, 21:31

-Is it only me or anyone noticed that McLarens and Red Bulls exchanged their roles this time compared to last season. If you ignore how Vettel gained due to the safety car, you can notice-
1. McLarens secured 1-2 in qualification, ran away from the rest at start of the race only to be caught up by the Red Bulls later.
2. Button was like Vettel, always ahead of the pack, never threatened.
3. Vettel was like Button. Worse qualifying position than teammate but eventually caught up and could even have won but Button was just too fast (Vettel used to be just too fast for Button to catch up with).
4. Hamilton was like Webber. Secured pole, had poor start and continued to drop. In last season, if Webber secured pole, you could predict that his race is not going to go well.
5. Webber was like Hamilton. Always tailing behind but never really caught up with the leaders enough to overtake them.

-It was really a pity to see Grosjean, Schumacher and Maldonado to drop out. So far it looks like that-
Top teams- McLaren and Red Bull
Next top teams- Lotus, Mercedes, Williams, Ferrari and Sauber
Average teams- Force India and Torro Rosso
Hopeless team - HRT

-Too hard to predict about drivers since we discovered that so many drivers actually had great talents now that their cars improved a lot.

-This race is distinctly much more exciting than an average race from last season.

What do you guys think?

17th March 2012, 21:14	#46
sajidclt BHPian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 53 Thanked: 19 Times	Re: 2012 F1 - Australian Grand Prix Looks like we have an exciting race on the cards tomorrow. McLaren and Mercedes seem to be the strongest at the moment. It would be interesting to see how the Red Bulls perform from the third row. Though Ferrari seems to be relatively weak, Alonso might be able to get the Ferrari into the top 10. Lotus also seems strong and Romain has a good chance to be in the top 5. And for Kimi, he seems to be in a relatively faster car - and with the double DRS zone, he hopefully would be able to make up some positions and end up in the top 8.
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17th March 2012, 21:23	#47
mgh BHPian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 396 Thanked: 40 Times	Re: 2012 F1 - Australian Grand Prix Ferrari won't struggle for long. I think McLaren, Mercedes, Lotus, Red Bull, and Ferrari will be the top five teams in the early part of the season. Unless one or more move in the wrong direction as Renault did last year, it will be difficult for Force India even to maintain sixth position as they did last year. They will be definitely challenged by Toro Rosso and Williams, and also Sauber.
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17th March 2012, 21:56	#48
_chikku BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Puttur Posts: 330 Thanked: 201 Times	So the first penalty of the season bagged by Perez, for gearbox change. He drops from 17 to 22.
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17th March 2012, 22:34	#49
StarrySky Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: EU - Nordic Posts: 2,052 Thanked: 3,043 Times	Re: 2012 F1 - Australian Grand Prix 1. McLaren have continued their strong year-end form last year into this year. I think Lewis is favourite for the win tomorrow. Button will probably manage his tires better, but I guess Lewis will be able to build up a sizeable lead before his tires start going away. 2. Mercedes, wow! Good to see Schumi high up on the grid. 3. Redbull don't appear to be the same force in Q3 as they were last year. The race will tell whether they have fallen behind in other areas as well. I guess they might have been even further behind if Rosberg/Kimi hadn't made mistakes. 4. Lotus - Surprise package! May have got 2 cars in top-5 if Kimi had not made the mistake in Q1. 5. Ferrari - In trouble. Alonso can forget a third title in 2012 if Ferrari does not improve in the next 2-3 races. I think they can forget the constructor's title with Massa seeming to have trouble getting into Q2.
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18th March 2012, 10:37	#50
arun_kun BHPian Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Hyderbad Posts: 249 Thanked: 180 Times	Re: 2012 F1 - Australian Grand Prix Guyz, Can any1 help with online broadcasting link where we can see live. I am outside india. Any help much appreciated.
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18th March 2012, 12:39	#54
redrage BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 553 Thanked: 106 Times	How did Webber get ahead of Alonso before the safety car? IIRC there was a 5 sec gap
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18th March 2012, 13:45	#56
asr245 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 1,162 Thanked: 389 Times	Re: 2012 F1 - Australian Grand Prix A very exciting race to watch if you are a F1 fan. A depressing end if you are a Williams fan (I am). I was glad the DRS did not aid overtaking too much (not sure why). Glad RB didn't start on a winning note. Glad Jenson won instead on Lewis and will be glad if they kick Massa out!
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18th March 2012, 14:11	#57
mgh BHPian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 396 Thanked: 40 Times	Re: 2012 F1 - Australian Grand Prix Last lap problem depriving Rosberg of points, and Maldonado shunting earlier, helped di Resta sneak a point for Force India. Seven teams earned points today. Constructor's championship 1 McLaren 2 Red Bull 3 Sauber (!) 4 Ferrari 5 Lotus 6 Toro Rosso 7 Force India
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18th March 2012, 14:24	#58
arun_kun BHPian Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Hyderbad Posts: 249 Thanked: 180 Times	Re: 2012 F1 - Australian Grand Prix I feel sorry for Lewis. And i wish ferrari come back strong for the next race.
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18th March 2012, 21:31	#60
DevilsCry BHPian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Delhi Posts: 552 Thanked: 506 Times	Re: 2012 F1 - Australian Grand Prix -Is it only me or anyone noticed that McLarens and Red Bulls exchanged their roles this time compared to last season. If you ignore how Vettel gained due to the safety car, you can notice- 1. McLarens secured 1-2 in qualification, ran away from the rest at start of the race only to be caught up by the Red Bulls later. 2. Button was like Vettel, always ahead of the pack, never threatened. 3. Vettel was like Button. Worse qualifying position than teammate but eventually caught up and could even have won but Button was just too fast (Vettel used to be just too fast for Button to catch up with). 4. Hamilton was like Webber. Secured pole, had poor start and continued to drop. In last season, if Webber secured pole, you could predict that his race is not going to go well. 5. Webber was like Hamilton. Always tailing behind but never really caught up with the leaders enough to overtake them. -It was really a pity to see Grosjean, Schumacher and Maldonado to drop out. So far it looks like that- Top teams- McLaren and Red Bull Next top teams- Lotus, Mercedes, Williams, Ferrari and Sauber Average teams- Force India and Torro Rosso Hopeless team - HRT -Too hard to predict about drivers since we discovered that so many drivers actually had great talents now that their cars improved a lot. -This race is distinctly much more exciting than an average race from last season. What do you guys think?
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