turbocharging or petes tunning box? help!

mustang · 3rd February 2006, 14:42

hey guys.

i have an accent viva crdi and i think its an amazing car. i have been wanting to do some mods on it for quite some time. right now it is just a stock car running on 15 inch 195/50 rubber.
now i have basically decided to either go for the petes tuning box or a turbocharger coupled with an intercooler and blow of valve and some other tweaks.

now i am not so much into the technical aspects of turbocharging, i need your help regarding the follwing queries.

- is the 1.5 crdi engine block good enough(strength and fatiuge issues) to stand the extra power and torque.
- the whole process taking a toll on engine life.
- feasibility in terms of money vs hp and torque increase.

eventually my plan is to have je pistons, the tunning box, a free flow exhaust, and some other tweaks... plz give me your suggestions and ideas.
also plz feel free to correct me as i said that my technical knowledge isn't that great.
thanks a lot guy.

v1p3r · 3rd February 2006, 16:14

CRDi engines are already turbocharged. If you take a look behind your front bumper, you will notice the intercooler, and the plumbing leading from the turbo and to the engine.

Your best bet would be Pete's Tuning Box.

50paise · 3rd February 2006, 16:23

hey buddy.. personal advise:-
get a free flow done, get a K&N Typhoon Air Intake System,
Get MSD Blaster Coil n Splitfire Spake Plugs, n ofcourse get Pete's Tuning Box.. it will give you the kind of power your looking for..

ajmat · 3rd February 2006, 16:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by 50paise

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Get MSD Blaster Coil n Splitfire Spake Plugs, n ofcourse get Pete's Tuning Box.. it will give you the kind of power your looking for..

in a diesel ?????????

sats · 3rd February 2006, 16:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by 50paise

hey buddy.. personal advise:-
get a free flow done, get a K&N Typhoon Air Intake System,
Get MSD Blaster Coil n Splitfire Spake Plugs, n ofcourse get Pete's Tuning Box.. it will give you the kind of power your looking for..

On a Viva CRDI...

viper · 3rd February 2006, 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by sats

On a Viva CRDI...

Hey,

All that is stupidity and some of it may not even work on a diesel. Correct me if i'm wrong but to the best of my knowledge diesel cars do not have spark plugs or plug wires. You can contact Drifter who has a free flow and Pete's Tuning box if you want to see the performance diff in his CRDI.

Viper

z klasse · 3rd February 2006, 16:52

A diesel car does not come with spark plugs.. it comes with glow plugs which heat the mixture.. Diesel cars burn the mixture due to high compression. Its worthless spending so much on a diesel. Pete's tuning box though on the other hand along with a K&N filter should do good.. I suggest not going more than that..

Z

autopsyche · 3rd February 2006, 17:04

As suggested by Z Klasse, go in for an air induction kit matched with the petes tuning box the combination should offer you 20+ bhp and very peppy performance.

Arush

Zappo · 3rd February 2006, 17:14

I had a related query... how much of a difference in power can K&N make in a diesel? I wanted to dovetail that into the next query on whether adding a K&N filter in the Indica V2 diesel really pep up the car? Has anyone got a first hand experience on this?

falcon · 3rd February 2006, 17:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by z klasse

A diesel car does not come with spark plugs.. it comes with glow plugs which heat the mixture.. Diesel cars burn the mixture due to high compression.

Unlike Spark Plugs in a petrol vehicles, Glow Plugs in diesel vehicles are used only at the time of starting the vehicle in order to preheat the mixture.

Once it starts, the Glow Plugs are turned off.

v1p3r · 3rd February 2006, 19:46

MSD, Splitfire...on a common-rail diesel. Man, if they work like they do on a petrol, I'll buy you another Viva CRDi!!!

Gtea · 3rd February 2006, 20:52

How about upgrading the turbo to a bigger one.

And a free flow. (I would really like to hear a diesel engine with a free flow exhaust. Man it's gonna be loud).

adya33 · 3rd February 2006, 21:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gtea

How about upgrading the turbo to a bigger one.

And a free flow. (I would really like to hear a diesel engine with a free flow exhaust. Man it's gonna be loud).

yup it becomes quite loud.
As for tunning get Petes box as CRDi already has turbo.
Engine can withstand additional power, no worries there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by viper

All that is stupidity and some of it may not even work on a diesel. Correct me if i'm wrong but to the best of my knowledge diesel cars do not have spark plugs or plug wires.

you are right viper, diesel engine doesn't have spark plug as mixture is ignited under pressure
How Stuff Works Link

The Wolf · 3rd February 2006, 21:39

Sparkplugs, msd, freeflow on a diesel car..No nitrous?? ..hehee..humorous indeed...how bout moving this to the jokes thread? Sorry mate ...no offence...jus kidding....

My suggestion would be common to others, petes tuning box and a bigger turbo should make you feel good....

50paisa : I think you overlooked the crdi part, its a diesel dude, so none of what you mentioned might work...

viper · 3rd February 2006, 21:55

Hey,

Just remembered you can adda NOS kit. ZEX makes kits for diesel cars and costs almost the same.

Viper

3rd February 2006, 14:42	#1
mustang Newbie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 19 Thanked: 0 Times	turbocharging or petes tunning box? help! hey guys. i have an accent viva crdi and i think its an amazing car. i have been wanting to do some mods on it for quite some time. right now it is just a stock car running on 15 inch 195/50 rubber. now i have basically decided to either go for the petes tuning box or a turbocharger coupled with an intercooler and blow of valve and some other tweaks. now i am not so much into the technical aspects of turbocharging, i need your help regarding the follwing queries. - is the 1.5 crdi engine block good enough(strength and fatiuge issues) to stand the extra power and torque. - the whole process taking a toll on engine life. - feasibility in terms of money vs hp and torque increase. eventually my plan is to have je pistons, the tunning box, a free flow exhaust, and some other tweaks... plz give me your suggestions and ideas. also plz feel free to correct me as i said that my technical knowledge isn't that great. thanks a lot guy.
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3rd February 2006, 16:14	#2
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,365 Thanked: 7,507 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (7)	CRDi engines are already turbocharged. If you take a look behind your front bumper, you will notice the intercooler, and the plumbing leading from the turbo and to the engine. Your best bet would be Pete's Tuning Box.
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3rd February 2006, 16:23	#3
50paise BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 66 Thanked: 0 Times	hey buddy.. personal advise:- get a free flow done, get a K&N Typhoon Air Intake System, Get MSD Blaster Coil n Splitfire Spake Plugs, n ofcourse get Pete's Tuning Box.. it will give you the kind of power your looking for..
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3rd February 2006, 16:52	#7
z klasse BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 351 Thanked: 29 Times View My Garage	A diesel car does not come with spark plugs.. it comes with glow plugs which heat the mixture.. Diesel cars burn the mixture due to high compression. Its worthless spending so much on a diesel. Pete's tuning box though on the other hand along with a K&N filter should do good.. I suggest not going more than that.. Z
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3rd February 2006, 17:04	#8
autopsyche Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Delhi, Indi Posts: 1,511 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	As suggested by Z Klasse, go in for an air induction kit matched with the petes tuning box the combination should offer you 20+ bhp and very peppy performance. Arush
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3rd February 2006, 17:14	#9
Zappo Team-BHP Support Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 5,908 Thanked: 2,746 Times	I had a related query... how much of a difference in power can K&N make in a diesel? I wanted to dovetail that into the next query on whether adding a K&N filter in the Indica V2 diesel really pep up the car? Has anyone got a first hand experience on this?
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3rd February 2006, 19:46	#11
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,365 Thanked: 7,507 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (7)	MSD, Splitfire...on a common-rail diesel. Man, if they work like they do on a petrol, I'll buy you another Viva CRDi!!!
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3rd February 2006, 20:52	#12
Gtea BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Shillong Posts: 163 Thanked: Once	How about upgrading the turbo to a bigger one. And a free flow. (I would really like to hear a diesel engine with a free flow exhaust. Man it's gonna be loud).
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3rd February 2006, 21:39	#14
The Wolf Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,119 Thanked: 76 Times	Sparkplugs, msd, freeflow on a diesel car..No nitrous?? ..hehee..humorous indeed...how bout moving this to the jokes thread? Sorry mate ...no offence...jus kidding.... My suggestion would be common to others, petes tuning box and a bigger turbo should make you feel good.... 50paisa : I think you overlooked the crdi part, its a diesel dude, so none of what you mentioned might work...
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3rd February 2006, 21:55	#15
viper BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,766 Thanked: 20 Times	Hey, Just remembered you can adda NOS kit. ZEX makes kits for diesel cars and costs almost the same. Viper
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