Is It necessary to add new plug wire,ignition coil if adding new NGK Iridium Plug

finetuning · 8th March 2006, 23:08

If I want to add new ngk iridium plug,do i need to change plug wire too?...and also ignition coil too?Will original one in my esteem will
?I M having 1995 esteem with LPG gas kit & stock replacement K & N filter.

viper · 9th March 2006, 08:44

Hi,

The Iridium plugs are mainly performance oriented. To get the best out of them it is recommended to change to better quality plug wires and a ignition coil. I would not recommend the Iridium plugs in your application.

Viper

jkdas · 9th March 2006, 08:59

Why dont yor recommend? NGK aint good or coz its gonna be fed with lpg?

viper · 9th March 2006, 09:13

Hi,

I dont because I am assuming the vehicle is not going to be performance oriented considering it has LPG fitted. To do justice to the plugs he should change the plug wires as a bare minimum upgrade total cost of plugs + wires approx 5500-6000. Now decide is it justified.

Its best he specifies his application and usage.

Viper

ajmat · 9th March 2006, 09:55

Iridium plugs without wires = Batman without Robin

rareone · 9th March 2006, 10:13

Hey Viper

Do u recommend these changes to be done in my Santro.

I already have installed
K&N Stock Replacement Filter
Free Flow Exhaust.

Reply
Thanx
Enjoy Revving...

viper · 9th March 2006, 10:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by rareone

Hey Viper

Do u recommend these changes to be done in my Santro.

I already have installed
K&N Stock Replacement Filter
Free Flow Exhaust.

Reply
Thanx
Enjoy Revving...

Hi,

If it is performance you are looking for then I would suggest you swap your filter with a conical one and put a good intake pipe. This will make more difference than the plugs & wires.

Viper

jkdas · 9th March 2006, 10:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajmat

Iridium plugs without wires = Batman without Robin

Iridium plugs with wires + better ignition coil.= Batman + Robin + batwoman in their batmobile

BUSA · 9th March 2006, 12:57

Isint a Conical Filter same as a performance filter?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

Iridium plugs with wires + better ignition coil.= Batman + Robin + batwoman in their batmobile

Isint Batmobile a two seater

Kaizer Sozay · 10th March 2006, 00:22

Ignition coils does that mean wires as well as the coil? also which brand is good? i have only heard of MSD & magnacore. is just changing the wires ok. can some one please tell me the cost of both?

viper · 10th March 2006, 08:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajalphonso

Ignition coils does that mean wires as well as the coil? also which brand is good? i have only heard of MSD & magnacore. is just changing the wires ok. can some one please tell me the cost of both?

Hi,

Yes means both. There are several good brands like MSD, Mallory, Spitfire, Magnacore, Accel etc. Good plug wires will cost from 3.5k for a set to almost 10k depending on the brand & model. Ignition coils will cost from 3k for the cylindrical ones to around 8k again depending on make, model.

Viper

finetuning · 10th March 2006, 17:13

Hi all,

When I decided to add K&N filter on my LPG run carburator esteem....same thing happenbed...even the dealer was not knowing whether this filter with LPG will perform or not........................& to my surprise it indeed....its performing so well.....my FE increased by minimum 1.5Km in daily mumbai traffic & travelling of 60Km daily.I think irrespective of LPG or petrol...this filter works & if driving condition remaining the same then definitly giveds good FE.
Hence I decided to go for iridium plug.I think what this plug do is to give more intense spark at less consumed voltage.Now in case of LPG...its being electrically resistive gas,normal plug has to work hard to ignite this fuel.If spark ignition intensity is improved then it results in better combustion & hence better FE.

I will post after running my car for a week.

Without K & N stock replacement filter my car returned 450Km per full tank of 45Kg in normal city driving.Now returning 500 with much omproved acceleration & improved torque ar entire range of rpm.

Kaizer Sozay · 10th March 2006, 23:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by viper

Hi,

Yes means both. There are several good brands like MSD, Mallory, Spitfire, Magnacore, Accel etc. Good plug wires will cost from 3.5k for a set to almost 10k depending on the brand & model. Ignition coils will cost from 3k for the cylindrical ones to around 8k again depending on make, model.

Viper

With regards to coils there are the ones which are rectangular & the other cylndrical type which are like the normal one in the car. which are better, & what are the prices for the two types.
What changes in FE & power can one expect

nitrous · 10th March 2006, 23:34

Quote:

Iridium plugs without wires = Batman without Robin

ROFLMAO!!!

Do u ever fail to amuse???

ajmat · 11th March 2006, 07:52

Sometimes you get good deals, I got NGK wires + iridium plugs on ebay for less than $100 delivered to a friend

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viper BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,773 Thanked: 20 Times	Hi, The Iridium plugs are mainly performance oriented. To get the best out of them it is recommended to change to better quality plug wires and a ignition coil. I would not recommend the Iridium plugs in your application. Viper
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viper BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,773 Thanked: 20 Times	Hi, I dont because I am assuming the vehicle is not going to be performance oriented considering it has LPG fitted. To do justice to the plugs he should change the plug wires as a bare minimum upgrade total cost of plugs + wires approx 5500-6000. Now decide is it justified. Its best he specifies his application and usage. Viper
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ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 15,059 Thanked: 29,711 Times View My Garage	Iridium plugs without wires = Batman without Robin
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rareone BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 256 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	Hey Viper Do u recommend these changes to be done in my Santro. I already have installed K&N Stock Replacement Filter Free Flow Exhaust. Reply Thanx Enjoy Revving...
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Kaizer Sozay BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 333 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	Ignition coils does that mean wires as well as the coil? also which brand is good? i have only heard of MSD & magnacore. is just changing the wires ok. can some one please tell me the cost of both?
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10th March 2006, 17:13	#12
finetuning BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 394 Thanked: 13 Times	Hi all, When I decided to add K&N filter on my LPG run carburator esteem....same thing happenbed...even the dealer was not knowing whether this filter with LPG will perform or not........................& to my surprise it indeed....its performing so well.....my FE increased by minimum 1.5Km in daily mumbai traffic & travelling of 60Km daily.I think irrespective of LPG or petrol...this filter works & if driving condition remaining the same then definitly giveds good FE. Hence I decided to go for iridium plug.I think what this plug do is to give more intense spark at less consumed voltage.Now in case of LPG...its being electrically resistive gas,normal plug has to work hard to ignite this fuel.If spark ignition intensity is improved then it results in better combustion & hence better FE. I will post after running my car for a week. Without K & N stock replacement filter my car returned 450Km per full tank of 45Kg in normal city driving.Now returning 500 with much omproved acceleration & improved torque ar entire range of rpm.
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11th March 2006, 07:52	#15
ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 15,059 Thanked: 29,711 Times View My Garage	Sometimes you get good deals, I got NGK wires + iridium plugs on ebay for less than $100 delivered to a friend
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