Corolla K&N Typhoon intake

ap10046 · 24th August 2006, 11:22

Cheers Sandeep..the stock replacement is what I should have gone for.
Check out the K&N website for some interesting facts..the Typhoon kit for the Accord REALISTICALLY give you only a 2.5 BHP advantage....thats about 1.5% increase in power!!!! and for about 14K!!!

team dragstar · 24th August 2006, 12:20

i prefer conical ones coz they anyday are much better as far as the performance is concerned, ask our ford rocam for details.... he is one of the biggest fans of the conical K&Ns

hellspawn · 24th August 2006, 16:11

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Originally Posted by sandeep108

In our dusty climate, k&n requires cleaning quite frequently, which can be expensive as well as a pain.

it doesnt require leaning that often,actually if its a little dirty,it works better because the dust settled on the k&n also acts a filtering media.you can check out the k&n site for more info.its called depth loading.
i dont know why you guys are complaining about the sound,the induction noise is purely nirvana.

sandeep108 · 24th August 2006, 17:33

After 9 months of use, I somehow felt that engine efficiency was not up to mark, especially after service which confirmed all tune up was ok. Switched back to normal oem paper air filter and things were all right. Saw the k&n was quite clogged up. Got a cleaning kit and did the needful, performance was back. But again after 2 months, I noticed some drop. And I am not even in very dusty climate. Maybe Mumbai humidity also has a role to play...

SkiN46 · 10th September 2006, 16:33

the noise frm the filter at high revs is normal, happens on my lancer....i love it....n i hav never experienced a flat spot till 3.5..... if anything its better than b4

harmon_bro · 10th September 2006, 20:40

I have come across a couple of posts here, where people debate over K&N's ability to withstand with Indian conditions. Any comments? Iam not against any brand of category of filters, just need clarification over these debates that is circulated across different forums.

jkdas · 10th September 2006, 21:22

like hellspawn said, teh sounds just nirvana!, after 4k. I drove karthik247's lancer before and after install and the drivabilty was far better even at low speed in 5th gear.

maybe you guys had a bad install.

ap10046 · 10th September 2006, 21:43

well..on the Expressway, at about 150-160, I can't even hear my passenger shouting..how's that...forget the ICE..
Test : with K&N cold air..top end : 205..0-100 : 7
without : : 208(ish)..0-100 : 7

I have taken it off and VOILA!!!! WHAT a difference!!
No discernable loss in power and her drivability is back...
That would make 2 K&N Conicals for sale...

BUSA · 10th September 2006, 21:52

I can understand the reason why its happening so. I just saw pics of your accords engine bay and it clearly shows that the K n N is placed in such a manner that cold air is not being feeded properly to it. If you place it in a proper place where air intake is good then i am so sure you will notice a difference.

jkdas · 10th September 2006, 22:01

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Originally Posted by BUSA

I can understand the reason why its happening so. I just saw pics of your accords engine bay and it clearly shows that the K n N is placed in such a manner that cold air is not being feeded properly to it. If you place it in a proper place where air intake is good then i am so sure you will notice a difference.

OT! whers the pic of the K&N install?

Boom Shiva · 10th September 2006, 23:06

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Originally Posted by ap10046

That would make 2 K&N Conicals for sale...

What models are they and how much you want for them?

dragger · 11th September 2006, 02:51

hey buddy ap10046 as u did mention..yes the intake note on the lancer is very loud compared to any other car..when run with a K&N 4" conical filter...but then again that sound's bliss..again in your case on a long constant drive..the noise does get annoying at times..it's according to everyone's own personal choice...i dont still understand your experience with lack of power upto 3.5k rpm..that's very surprising..i had installed quite a few K&N fipk air induction kit's on various lancer's and the review always was quicker throttle response...also the car's were very driveable under standard driving condition's..im sure since you've now unistalled them you definately did find a problem..otherwise you woudln't have done such a thing..but i would definately want to figure out what actually went wrong there...also about the K&N filter getting clogged up..yes that does happen..indian driving condition's are totally to be blamed for it...cleaning and re-oiling the filter is not that great an option..because excessive oiling could lead to serious damages..well what happens is the excessive oil on the filter tends to get sucked in and deposit's on the mouth of the throttle body and layer's the Mas(mass air flow sensor) leading it to fail one fine day..also the company claims filter's tend to work as good they do whether they are clean or upto 2.5 inches of dust settled on it..the oil used by K&N has some kind of charge..im not sure if positive or negative which forces the dust to settle on the outer side of the filter instead of getting sucked in with the air..anyways..all said and done..im still a die hard fan of the K&N conical performance filter's..hehe..cheers happy revvin..!!

ap10046 · 11th September 2006, 10:29

Hi Dragger
Thanks for the info.
I know lots of friends who swear by them..I was very happy with them on my City and my 1000. Its just, and this is just my opinion here, I think the Lancer 4G15, is not very compatible with the K&N's. I believe the stock airbox was so well designed initially.
Anyway, I am getting an AEM soon so lets see..
Cheers

ap10046 · 11th September 2006, 10:30

Hi,
The Accord's is the whole Typhoon setup and has run maybe..2000-3000 km and the Lancer has a conical K&N with a custom Venturi tube collar.
They are both with Karan of KS Motorsport

paras211 · 1st March 2007, 17:38

get the typhoon for the corolla its a bit noisy though

24th August 2006, 11:22	#16
ap10046 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 139 Thanked: 52 Times	Cheers Sandeep..the stock replacement is what I should have gone for. Check out the K&N website for some interesting facts..the Typhoon kit for the Accord REALISTICALLY give you only a 2.5 BHP advantage....thats about 1.5% increase in power!!!! and for about 14K!!!
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24th August 2006, 12:20	#17
team dragstar BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 80 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	i prefer conical ones coz they anyday are much better as far as the performance is concerned, ask our ford rocam for details.... he is one of the biggest fans of the conical K&Ns
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24th August 2006, 17:33	#19
sandeep108 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,050 Thanked: 302 Times	After 9 months of use, I somehow felt that engine efficiency was not up to mark, especially after service which confirmed all tune up was ok. Switched back to normal oem paper air filter and things were all right. Saw the k&n was quite clogged up. Got a cleaning kit and did the needful, performance was back. But again after 2 months, I noticed some drop. And I am not even in very dusty climate. Maybe Mumbai humidity also has a role to play...
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10th September 2006, 16:33	#20
SkiN46 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: san diego, ca Posts: 30 Thanked: 0 Times	the noise frm the filter at high revs is normal, happens on my lancer....i love it....n i hav never experienced a flat spot till 3.5..... if anything its better than b4
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10th September 2006, 20:40	#21
harmon_bro BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Madras Posts: 542 Thanked: 14 Times	I have come across a couple of posts here, where people debate over K&N's ability to withstand with Indian conditions. Any comments? Iam not against any brand of category of filters, just need clarification over these debates that is circulated across different forums.
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10th September 2006, 21:22	#22
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	like hellspawn said, teh sounds just nirvana!, after 4k. I drove karthik247's lancer before and after install and the drivabilty was far better even at low speed in 5th gear. maybe you guys had a bad install.
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10th September 2006, 21:43	#23
ap10046 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 139 Thanked: 52 Times	well..on the Expressway, at about 150-160, I can't even hear my passenger shouting..how's that...forget the ICE.. Test : with K&N cold air..top end : 205..0-100 : 7 without : : 208(ish)..0-100 : 7 I have taken it off and VOILA!!!! WHAT a difference!! No discernable loss in power and her drivability is back... That would make 2 K&N Conicals for sale...
	() Thanks

10th September 2006, 21:52	#24
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	I can understand the reason why its happening so. I just saw pics of your accords engine bay and it clearly shows that the K n N is placed in such a manner that cold air is not being feeded properly to it. If you place it in a proper place where air intake is good then i am so sure you will notice a difference.
	() Thanks

11th September 2006, 02:51	#27
dragger BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: India-Mumbai-Colaba Posts: 350 Thanked: 6 Times	hey buddy ap10046 as u did mention..yes the intake note on the lancer is very loud compared to any other car..when run with a K&N 4" conical filter...but then again that sound's bliss..again in your case on a long constant drive..the noise does get annoying at times..it's according to everyone's own personal choice...i dont still understand your experience with lack of power upto 3.5k rpm..that's very surprising..i had installed quite a few K&N fipk air induction kit's on various lancer's and the review always was quicker throttle response...also the car's were very driveable under standard driving condition's..im sure since you've now unistalled them you definately did find a problem..otherwise you woudln't have done such a thing..but i would definately want to figure out what actually went wrong there...also about the K&N filter getting clogged up..yes that does happen..indian driving condition's are totally to be blamed for it...cleaning and re-oiling the filter is not that great an option..because excessive oiling could lead to serious damages..well what happens is the excessive oil on the filter tends to get sucked in and deposit's on the mouth of the throttle body and layer's the Mas(mass air flow sensor) leading it to fail one fine day..also the company claims filter's tend to work as good they do whether they are clean or upto 2.5 inches of dust settled on it..the oil used by K&N has some kind of charge..im not sure if positive or negative which forces the dust to settle on the outer side of the filter instead of getting sucked in with the air..anyways..all said and done..im still a die hard fan of the K&N conical performance filter's..hehe..cheers happy revvin..!!
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11th September 2006, 10:29	#28
ap10046 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 139 Thanked: 52 Times	Hi Dragger Thanks for the info. I know lots of friends who swear by them..I was very happy with them on my City and my 1000. Its just, and this is just my opinion here, I think the Lancer 4G15, is not very compatible with the K&N's. I believe the stock airbox was so well designed initially. Anyway, I am getting an AEM soon so lets see.. Cheers
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11th September 2006, 10:30	#29
ap10046 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 139 Thanked: 52 Times	Hi, The Accord's is the whole Typhoon setup and has run maybe..2000-3000 km and the Lancer has a conical K&N with a custom Venturi tube collar. They are both with Karan of KS Motorsport
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1st March 2007, 17:38	#30
paras211 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 646 Thanked: 108 Times View My Garage	get the typhoon for the corolla its a bit noisy though
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