power brake and steering in m800

snaronikar · 20th January 2008, 11:30

I'am still unable to get why do you want to install power steering for a M800. What is its usage? As it is it has the light steering.

harry2223 · 21st January 2008, 17:08

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Originally Posted by humyum

No need to post pics.I too have an 800

And for your question 'yes it will fit in the place where the master cylinder is present.No need to do anything..

thanx friend for ur suggestion

dkamath · 21st January 2008, 19:02

Please do not mind me asking this. Do you feel the need for a powerful braking system on a Maruti 800?
Personal experience makes me feel that the present ones are capable of taking care of/anticipating every situation that requires hard braking, for speeds upto 70kmph. Didn't test beyond that. Are you referring to braking at high speeds?
Does the power brake suit the dynamics of the car? I've felt the car skid at times when the tyres are over-inflated to 29PSI under the existing braking system. Please do factor in such a case too, before you decide to go for one.

harry2223 · 21st January 2008, 19:32

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Originally Posted by dkamath

Please do not mind me asking this. Do you feel the need for a powerful braking system on a Maruti 800?
Personal experience makes me feel that the present ones are capable of taking care of/anticipating every situation that requires hard braking, for speeds upto 70kmph. Didn't test beyond that. Are you referring to braking at high speeds?

for me present brakes are not sufficient as i usually drive at high speed and whats the loss to have power brakes when all cars have it . have you ever tried m800 simple brakes when a person in front car with power brakes apply suddden brakes.

dkamath · 21st January 2008, 19:57

Point noted

. Perhaps the current brakes are suited for sedate driving patterns. Please do post details after getting this conversion done.

harry2223 · 21st January 2008, 20:17

ok sir i am going to put up new brakes in 10 to 15 days

humyum · 21st January 2008, 21:55

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Originally Posted by dkamath

Please do not mind me asking this. Do you feel the need for a powerful braking system on a Maruti 800?
Personal experience makes me feel that the present ones are capable of taking care of/anticipating every situation that requires hard braking, for speeds upto 70kmph. Didn't test beyond that. Are you referring to braking at high speeds?
Does the power brake suit the dynamics of the car? I've felt the car skid at times when the tyres are over-inflated to 29PSI under the existing braking system. Please do factor in such a case too, before you decide to go for one.

I somewhat agree to u on this one.For me the 800s brakes are capable enough for high speed driving too and i drive my car mostly on the highways at speeds of 100+most of the times and i find them sufficient enough and in panic braking even with my current unservoed brakes the front wheels lock up. So in high speed situations with servoed brakes i ll easily lock up.
If you are driving mostly in the city and the brake pedal with constant braking the servo is needed and good but if u want it specifically for the highway u can get into dangereous situations IMO

fiery enzyme · 21st January 2008, 23:36

Is it possible to add power windows to an 800 from the dealer?

krazydriver84 · 22nd January 2008, 11:37

I have a 2003 MPFi M800...
Do you think i should go for the servoed brakes...
Also please advise how do i go about checking for the mileage...

deetee · 22nd January 2008, 12:06

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Originally Posted by fiery enzyme

Is it possible to add power windows to an 800 from the dealer?

May not be with the authorised dealer but but you can get aftermarket power windows for 800. A month back when i enquired about the pw with mithra agencies here, they said pw for 800 have been stopped but they are available for alto(funny excuse ,but the point is that window lifters for 800 and alto are a little different.So even in case of aftermarket fitments make sure it is for 800 only.)

deetee · 22nd January 2008, 12:08

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Originally Posted by harry2223

for me present brakes are not sufficient as i usually drive at high speed and whats the loss to have power brakes when all cars have it . have you ever tried m800 simple brakes when a person in front car with power brakes apply suddden brakes.

quite true, by the time you manage stamp hard the brakes , you can find the car about kiss the bumper ahead. Harry wish you success with the project.
I read that 5-speed dx variants (2000-2003) have been produced with servo brakes , is it true? in that case then every other 800 also can be retrofitted with it ,right?

harry2223 · 22nd January 2008, 14:24

yes i have also heard that five speed maruti had sevoed brakes. i am looking for zen or indica servoe to fit it in my car .i am going to mechanic to get this job done in ten to 15 days.

harry2223 · 22nd January 2008, 14:34

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Originally Posted by krazydriver84

I have a 2003 MPFi M800...
Do you think i should go for the servoed brakes...
Also please advise how do i go about checking for the mileage...

if you are not satisfied by your present brakes then go ahead for servoed brakes.
the most simplest way to check your car mileage is dont refill your tank untill it is empty(remember to keep bottle of petrol in your car). when your tank is empty now put one liter petrol in your car .drive in same condition as you do regularly and check at which reading fuel tank is empty.you can now note your reading

rkbharat · 22nd January 2008, 15:36

I have carb M800 and I am also thinking on the same line for power assisted brakes. I drove one M800 with power brakes, and believe me I can feel the difference, brakes in that car was accurate. Also when I shift from My Indica to M800 I can feel the sluggishness in M800 brakes.

BMW77 · 22nd January 2008, 16:58

I am driving M800 since last 7 years. After a year of usage I had decided for power brakes and service adviser advised me not to go for it. He had given me a test drive of powered brake M800 in rainy season at Katraj Ghat, Pune and I suddenly dropped the idea. I mostly drive in between 80-100. No problem with stock brakes till date.
My suggestion is to test it first and then go for it. Also make sure that all other drivers of your car have understand the power brakes.

20th January 2008, 11:30	#16
snaronikar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,845 Thanked: 29 Times View My Garage	I'am still unable to get why do you want to install power steering for a M800. What is its usage? As it is it has the light steering.
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21st January 2008, 19:02	#18
dkamath BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 577 Thanked: 155 Times	Please do not mind me asking this. Do you feel the need for a powerful braking system on a Maruti 800? Personal experience makes me feel that the present ones are capable of taking care of/anticipating every situation that requires hard braking, for speeds upto 70kmph. Didn't test beyond that. Are you referring to braking at high speeds? Does the power brake suit the dynamics of the car? I've felt the car skid at times when the tyres are over-inflated to 29PSI under the existing braking system. Please do factor in such a case too, before you decide to go for one.
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21st January 2008, 19:57	#20
dkamath BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 577 Thanked: 155 Times	Point noted . Perhaps the current brakes are suited for sedate driving patterns. Please do post details after getting this conversion done.
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21st January 2008, 20:17	#21
harry2223 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: patiala Posts: 350 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	ok sir i am going to put up new brakes in 10 to 15 days
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21st January 2008, 23:36	#23
fiery enzyme BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: TN 01 Posts: 413 Thanked: 27 Times View My Garage	Is it possible to add power windows to an 800 from the dealer?
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22nd January 2008, 11:37	#24
krazydriver84 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kolkata + Gurgaon Posts: 428 Thanked: 44 Times View My Garage	@hy I have a 2003 MPFi M800... Do you think i should go for the servoed brakes... Also please advise how do i go about checking for the mileage...
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22nd January 2008, 14:24	#27
harry2223 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: patiala Posts: 350 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	yes i have also heard that five speed maruti had sevoed brakes. i am looking for zen or indica servoe to fit it in my car .i am going to mechanic to get this job done in ten to 15 days.
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22nd January 2008, 15:36	#29
rkbharat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Gurgaon/New Delhi Posts: 1,601 Thanked: 724 Times View My Garage	I have carb M800 and I am also thinking on the same line for power assisted brakes. I drove one M800 with power brakes, and believe me I can feel the difference, brakes in that car was accurate. Also when I shift from My Indica to M800 I can feel the sluggishness in M800 brakes.
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22nd January 2008, 16:58	#30
BMW77 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: pune Posts: 42 Thanked: 0 Times	I am driving M800 since last 7 years. After a year of usage I had decided for power brakes and service adviser advised me not to go for it. He had given me a test drive of powered brake M800 in rainy season at Katraj Ghat, Pune and I suddenly dropped the idea. I mostly drive in between 80-100. No problem with stock brakes till date. My suggestion is to test it first and then go for it. Also make sure that all other drivers of your car have understand the power brakes.
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