Ractive Tachometer 3.5'' does not cross 3000 RPM on Max Revv

bugboy180 · 20th November 2008, 21:43

hi guys, i just fixed a Ractive RPM meter with a shift light and 7 colors earlier today. the problem is the Rpm meter is it stays on 500RPM on IDLE(accurate i think), and doesnt cross 3000RPM even after revving really high which should probably show like 7000RPM. im hoping some one could shine some light on this.
I own a Ford Ikon 2002 clxi 1.3 which originally doesnt come with a RPM meter. i have got it fixed from a experienced guy here in pune.

harsh87 · 20th November 2008, 23:16

Its most probable that your car has a Distributor-less ignition system. You'll need a tachometer that has a 2 cylinder switch in it.

blueraven316 · 21st November 2008, 00:07

HMm, I have a Ractive 2" tacho on my Ikon Dash. I have a Endura engine (just like your Ikon) Exi . My switch is at 4 cylinder mode. The engine actually does not revv up that much, I don't know whether yours is a genuine problem, but after fitting the tacho my car was not showing above 3000 RPM.
Now after fitting a K&N performance filter it touches 3500 RPM comfy, and if I stretch it a bit it touches 4000. On standing revvs the car touches about max 5000.
I think the culprit here is not the tacho, but its the car, maybe the gearing is built in a way that it cannot revv very high on the move in stock condition.
I maybe wrong.

Akshay1234 · 21st November 2008, 00:16

bluraven. im sure the ikon engine should revv to at least 6.5k rpm.

noidaboy · 21st November 2008, 00:19

I think its about the Dual ignition coil issue (like santro's and swifts lxi's),your tacho much be getting half reading.Try switching the cylinder settings as well

nitrous · 21st November 2008, 01:27

Had a tach in my ikon 1.3 endura. Had the same issue.
Solution is to source the signal from the ECU.

bugboy180 · 21st November 2008, 02:27

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firstly im really shocked to see so many replys in matter of coupla hours... Thanks guys!!
well i checked it out with the dealer again.. he said hes gonna check out with other customers whoz purchased it too,but then its gonna take a day or two.

Blueraven316 thers a choice between 4 - 6 - 8 for the switch behind it, its already been set to 4.

akshay1234 the ikons1.3 surely does revv more than 6.5 cause in the spec it delivers 69.04bhp@5500rpm, so definitly ther room for more revv...yea?? do correct me if im wrong
nitrous could you please fill me in on how about you source the signal from the ECU.im guessing the wires to the meter are taken from the ECU already..

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Originally Posted by harsh87

Its most probable that your car has a Distributor-less ignition system. You'll need a tachometer that has a 2 cylinder switch in it.

thers no 2cly setting.. it only shows 4-6-8 at the back..

m4ugr8 · 21st November 2008, 11:15

Happened with me also, when trying to fit a 5" Autogauge tacho in my Swift, It showed half reading, and since i had a stock tacho i could see the aftermaket tacho not showing correct reading, then the signal was sourced from the ECU, and it showed complete reading.

Two ways, either get yourself a DIS Tacho, with 2 Clyn setting or sourced the signal from the ECU

bugboy180 · 21st November 2008, 11:37

When you source the signal from the ECU, isn't it harmful to the ECU itself? just incase if there might be voltage hitting back from the Gauge to the ECU or maybe if the gauge gets short would it affect the ECU ? these ECU's are pretty expensive incase of a mishap! lol

crazydiablo · 21st November 2008, 13:36

Its only showing half the revs. I am not sure what is the problem, but am sure its showing only half. 500 idling is also too low.

bugboy180 · 22nd November 2008, 10:19

how are your meters working??to guys who have sourced their rpm guage from the ECU and how long has it been since urll fixed it??
any problems faced so far?

aZa · 22nd November 2008, 13:40

As everyone said, you might need a DIS compatible tacho which means it should have a 2 cylinder setting. Autometer / autogauge make a small box that does emulate the 2 cylinder setting, if you can get this then the RPMS will shoot up to normal.

aditya.86 · 22nd November 2008, 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by aZa

As everyone said, you might need a DIS compatible tacho which means it should have a 2 cylinder setting. Autometer / autogauge make a small box that does emulate the 2 cylinder setting, if you can get this then the RPMS will shoot up to normal.

Aza,
Does the normal tachometer work fine with the convertor box?? Been looking for the same for a really long time.

GTO · 22nd November 2008, 16:26

I guess the others have already told you what to do with this problem.

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and doesnt cross 3000RPM even after revving really high which should probably show like 7000RPM.

Didn't the '02 Ikons come with the antique pushrod 58 BHP engine? No way in hell that engine will touch 7,000 rpm.

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i have got it fixed from a experienced guy here in pune.

That guy ain't no expert; he is an idiot for not testing his install prior to delivery. It is either the wrong product or the wrong install that is causing your rpm gauge to behave this way.

bugboy180 · 24th November 2008, 15:34

i just returned the Ractive Rpm meter today after a long argument. Told him "wat use is a performance meter which does not perform ??" he started blaming the car sayin the car doesnt put out enough power to run the rpm meter and suggested me to fix a free flow. but then anyways in the end i got rid of it.

Well im still looking for Rpm meters, today i had a look at the Autoguage meters, it supports 3 - 4 - 6 cyl engines only. would it help if i fit a 3cylinder rpm meter ?? ther was a 2inch as well as a 3.5inch, some how i cant find any 2 cyl rpm meter. i tried finding out about the device tht would help shoot up the rpm, somehow no one knows about it here.

Any suggestions anyone??or any puniets who who have their sources wher i could find one???
thanks in advance guys!!

20th November 2008, 21:43	#1
bugboy180 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 18 Thanked: 0 Times	Ractive Tachometer 3.5'' does not cross 3000 RPM on Max Revv hi guys, i just fixed a Ractive RPM meter with a shift light and 7 colors earlier today. the problem is the Rpm meter is it stays on 500RPM on IDLE(accurate i think), and doesnt cross 3000RPM even after revving really high which should probably show like 7000RPM. im hoping some one could shine some light on this. I own a Ford Ikon 2002 clxi 1.3 which originally doesnt come with a RPM meter. i have got it fixed from a experienced guy here in pune. Attached Thumbnails
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20th November 2008, 23:16	#2
harsh87 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 169 Thanked: 3 Times View My Garage	Its most probable that your car has a Distributor-less ignition system. You'll need a tachometer that has a 2 cylinder switch in it.
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21st November 2008, 00:07	#3
blueraven316 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,110 Thanked: 19 Times View My Garage	HMm, I have a Ractive 2" tacho on my Ikon Dash. I have a Endura engine (just like your Ikon) Exi . My switch is at 4 cylinder mode. The engine actually does not revv up that much, I don't know whether yours is a genuine problem, but after fitting the tacho my car was not showing above 3000 RPM. Now after fitting a K&N performance filter it touches 3500 RPM comfy, and if I stretch it a bit it touches 4000. On standing revvs the car touches about max 5000. I think the culprit here is not the tacho, but its the car, maybe the gearing is built in a way that it cannot revv very high on the move in stock condition. I maybe wrong.
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21st November 2008, 00:16	#4
Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,302 Thanked: 12,548 Times	bluraven. im sure the ikon engine should revv to at least 6.5k rpm.
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21st November 2008, 00:19	#5
noidaboy BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Noida Posts: 1,003 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	I think its about the Dual ignition coil issue (like santro's and swifts lxi's),your tacho much be getting half reading.Try switching the cylinder settings as well
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21st November 2008, 01:27	#6
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 329 Times View My Garage	Had a tach in my ikon 1.3 endura. Had the same issue. Solution is to source the signal from the ECU.
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21st November 2008, 11:15	#8
m4ugr8 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,291 Thanked: 129 Times View My Garage	Happened with me also, when trying to fit a 5" Autogauge tacho in my Swift, It showed half reading, and since i had a stock tacho i could see the aftermaket tacho not showing correct reading, then the signal was sourced from the ECU, and it showed complete reading. Two ways, either get yourself a DIS Tacho, with 2 Clyn setting or sourced the signal from the ECU
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21st November 2008, 11:37	#9
bugboy180 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 18 Thanked: 0 Times	When you source the signal from the ECU, isn't it harmful to the ECU itself? just incase if there might be voltage hitting back from the Gauge to the ECU or maybe if the gauge gets short would it affect the ECU ? these ECU's are pretty expensive incase of a mishap! lol
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21st November 2008, 13:36	#10
crazydiablo BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore/San Francisco Posts: 854 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	Its only showing half the revs. I am not sure what is the problem, but am sure its showing only half. 500 idling is also too low.
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22nd November 2008, 10:19	#11
bugboy180 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 18 Thanked: 0 Times	how are your meters working??to guys who have sourced their rpm guage from the ECU and how long has it been since urll fixed it?? any problems faced so far?
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22nd November 2008, 13:40	#12
aZa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noida / Delhi Posts: 1,595 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	As everyone said, you might need a DIS compatible tacho which means it should have a 2 cylinder setting. Autometer / autogauge make a small box that does emulate the 2 cylinder setting, if you can get this then the RPMS will shoot up to normal.
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24th November 2008, 15:34	#15
bugboy180 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 18 Thanked: 0 Times	i just returned the Ractive Rpm meter today after a long argument. Told him "wat use is a performance meter which does not perform ??" he started blaming the car sayin the car doesnt put out enough power to run the rpm meter and suggested me to fix a free flow. but then anyways in the end i got rid of it. Well im still looking for Rpm meters, today i had a look at the Autoguage meters, it supports 3 - 4 - 6 cyl engines only. would it help if i fit a 3cylinder rpm meter ?? ther was a 2inch as well as a 3.5inch, some how i cant find any 2 cyl rpm meter. i tried finding out about the device tht would help shoot up the rpm, somehow no one knows about it here. Any suggestions anyone??or any puniets who who have their sources wher i could find one??? thanks in advance guys!!
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