Bajaj PULSAR 180 DTSi @ 50 Months and 30k kms- Detailed Report

para_7k · 25th May 2011, 11:08

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Originally Posted by bullboy

I'm using Zapper 90/90-17 on front and R15 rear tyre for back for my 180,both tubed as the air was leaking in tubless mode.Ride has become harsh since then due to lower profile, but there is no significant gain with this set up for me as now a days i hardly do a high speed cornering (matured

) .Also bottom will scrap against bumps with pillion. R15 tyre is costlier and has a reduced life due to softer compund.

Yes, the R15 tyres are supposed to be sticky. Due to the reduced height I do not want that on the rear.

What is your take on this setup:

90/90x17 in the Front and 110/80 x 17 at the rear ?

kphilip · 25th May 2011, 11:57

Crazy Driver, nice hearing about the pulsar 180.I too have a classic pulsar 180 and waiting for an upgrade to 2011 Yamaha R15.What you said about the service was absolutely right. My bike also ran without oil cause of the service fault.I needed a engine overhaul after that..Pathetic..My mileage is around 40.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 25th May 2011, 12:53

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Originally Posted by praful

The Zapper FS 90/90 is a decent tyre. You can definitely go for it, I am not sure, but it might bring down flickability by a bit given that it will form a slightly different profile.

Not too bothered about flickability as i am not much of a traffic cutter! I do like cornering, but not with too many vehicles around.

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Originally Posted by praful

See if you can source the Zapper Vyde, brilliant tyre. But very soft compound, lasted only 10K kms on my 220. Excellent cornering grip too, else you can see if you can get the Zapper C in a size thats around what you need!

Saw the following two rear tyres in the shop-

1. MRF Zapper Q 100/90- 17 Tube. (Same size, but feels softer compound).

2. MRF Zapper C 100/90 -17 Tubeless.

How about Zapper Q? Seems to be a decent tyre (though tubed). Any disadvantage of having tubeless up front, and tubed at the rear?

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Originally Posted by para_7k

I suggest the following:
Front:
3. MRF Zapper - 90/90 x 17 - Tubeless - from the new 180 and 220

Rear:
1. MRF Zapper - 100/90 x 17 Tubless
2. MRF Zapper - 110/80 x 17 Tubeless - This is the size of RTR 180. This will be my pick.
My tyres are also due for a change. Please keep your thread updated.

Front, i think i better go with 90/90 - 17 tubeless itself.

Rear, as i mentioned above, there are two choices in 100/90 - 17. Which would be better among the two? Meanwhile, let me see if i can source 110/80 - 17 tubeless.

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Originally Posted by para_7k

Also, can you point me where I can get Motul 15W50 in Chennai.

The place i have bought it from-
CBX Racing, Royapettah. (09841074529)

I have seen a shop at Selaiyur Camp Road with Motul board. But not sure if its genuine.

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Originally Posted by bullboy

I'm using Zapper 90/90-17 on front and R15 rear tyre for back for my 180,both tubed as the air was leaking in tubless mode.Ride has become harsh since then due to lower profile, but there is no significant gain with this set up for me as now a days i hardly do a high speed cornering (matured

) .Also bottom will scrap against bumps with pillion. R15 tyre is costlier and has a reduced life due to softer compund.

Thanks. Scrapping the R15 spec idea.

Air was leaking in tubeless? Is this a concern with the old alloys?

CrAzY dRiVeR · 25th May 2011, 13:10

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Originally Posted by kphilip

Crazy Driver, nice hearing about the pulsar 180.I too have a classic pulsar 180 and waiting for an upgrade to 2011 Yamaha R15.What you said about the service was absolutely right. My bike also ran without oil cause of the service fault.I needed a engine overhaul after that..Pathetic..My mileage is around 40.

Your bike was modded, right?

There is a rumour of a new R15 coming out. I hope you are waiting for it.

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@ para_7k: Where did you get the below mod done in chennai? Thanks!

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praful · 25th May 2011, 13:30

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Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Saw the following two rear tyres in the shop-

1. MRF Zapper Q 100/90- 17 Tube. (Same size, but feels softer compound).

2. MRF Zapper C 100/90 -17 Tubeless.

How about Zapper Q? Seems to be a decent tyre (though tubed). Any disadvantage of having tubeless up front, and tubed at the rear?

Q Was good for its time, but in today's age. Stay away

Its a hard compound tyre and looses traction in the wet. Zapper C is pretty OK. You might want to check out the feasibility of installing the 120/80 Zapper C from the 220. Its of a softer compound and thus has a better grip. But see if you need to remove you chain cover or not!

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Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

The place i have bought it from-
CBX Racing, Royapettah. (09841074529)

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Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

I have seen a shop at Selaiyur Camp Road with Motul board. But not sure if its genuine.

The Motul whole seller used to be based in Ramavaram, behind MIOT hospital. He offered a discount since he was a whole seller. Don't if he still exists, I used to go to this place 2.5 years back!

para_7k · 25th May 2011, 13:35

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Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Front, i think i better go with 90/90 - 17 tubeless itself.

Rear, as i mentioned above, there are two choices in 100/90 - 17. Which would be better among the two? Meanwhile, let me see if i can source 110/80 - 17 tubeless.

My pick will still be 110/80 x 17. It will not foul with chain cover and given the RTR 180 is common enough, this tyre should be available easily.

88mm sidewall means not much reduction in the overall diameter too.

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Air was leaking in tubeless? Is this a concern with the old alloys?

I had this problem. Initially it was because of improper mouth setup while fixing in the rims and the next time it was presence of some grime on the inner part of the rims which was causing slow leakage.

If your rims are not bent, get them cleaned thoroughly and fixing tubless will not be a problem.

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@ para_7k: Where did you get the below mod done in chennai? Thanks!

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I bought the coil from Bajaj probiking and installing was from a local mechanic. I will PM you the full details.

bullboy · 25th May 2011, 17:37

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Air was leaking in tubeless? Is this a concern with the old alloys?

I believe older alloys are not designed for tubeless ,mine is a 2005 model. I also considered Sirac , but went with R15 tyre as it was too costly and heavy.

kphilip · 26th May 2011, 10:37

No my bike wasn't modded.Infact the only thing i fitted was a K & N filter and it still does the job..K & N was fitted after the engine overhaul...

Indeed am waiting for the 2011 R15.. I'd booked the R15 and hearing the speculation about the new R15 i just cancelled it..My 180 has so far clocked aroung 70K on odo..

CrAzY dRiVeR · 26th May 2011, 13:52

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Originally Posted by praful

You might want to check out the feasibility of installing the 120/80 Zapper C from the 220. Its of a softer compound and thus has a better grip. But see if you need to remove you chain cover or not!

120/80 requires the chain cover to be removed. My friend had a 120 spec Zapper Q (IFRC) on his bike without chain guard. Was a cause for trouble, making all sorts of noises once it gets dusty.

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Originally Posted by praful

The Motul whole seller used to be based in Ramavaram, behind MIOT hospital. He offered a discount since he was a whole seller. Don't if he still exists, I used to go to this place 2.5 years back!

I searched this one near to MIOT, but couldnt find it. Was my early days in chennai and i didnt know the city that well. Anyways, CBX racing was good at prompt as well!

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Originally Posted by para_7k

I bought the coil from Bajaj probiking and installing was from a local mechanic. I will PM you the full details.

Waiting for this PM. Please mention the shops/ locations if possible. I am still not too familiar with the city.

I'd really like to upgrade to 55W setup, along with the classic headlamps. Been a dream for sometime, but could not commit to it because of all the location change and work tensions.

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Originally Posted by kphilip

Indeed am waiting for the 2011 R15.. I'd booked the R15 and hearing the speculation about the new R15 i just cancelled it..My 180 has so far clocked aroung 70K on odo..

Congrats well in advance. Did you see this thread? What a beauty!
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...5-refresh.html

Few pics taken today- 5 years and 1 month old now!

Bajaj PULSAR 180 DTSi @ 50 Months and 30k kms- Detailed Report-img_5659_800.jpg

Bajaj PULSAR 180 DTSi @ 50 Months and 30k kms- Detailed Report-img_5656_800.jpg

kphilip · 26th May 2011, 15:01

That bike looks brand new.Between how you maintain the plastic colour?Mine has faded and now its grey in color.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 26th May 2011, 23:59

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Originally Posted by kphilip

That bike looks brand new.Between how you maintain the plastic colour?Mine has faded and now its grey in color.

Havent done anything special other than usual washing (with Amway/ Formula1) and polishing the painted parts using Amway Silicon Glaze.

Bike has run only close to 35000+ kms in these 61 months. May be, thats the reason.

para_7k · 27th May 2011, 07:06

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Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Waiting for this PM. Please mention the shops/ locations if possible. I am still not too familiar with the city.

Few pics taken today- 5 years and 1 month old now!

I had already sent you the PM. Please check if your message box is full.

Nicely Maintained ride. The rear tire looks new or is it just from the pics ?

BTW, the front tyre looks very much in need of replacement.

Please keep us posted on your tyre upgrade.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 27th May 2011, 13:00

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Originally Posted by para_7k

I had already sent you the PM. Please check if your message box is full.

Nicely Maintained ride. The rear tire looks new or is it just from the pics ?

BTW, the front tyre looks very much in need of replacement.

Please keep us posted on your tyre upgrade.

Got the PM. Thanks! One more favour. Can you PM me the shop names and locations as well? Both the probiking and the mechanic you visited?

Rear tire was fitted sometime back in feb 2010. Its an MRF Meteor 100/90- 17. Its OK on road, good for bad road conditions and poor for cornering.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 28th May 2011, 12:18

Thanks guys for all the suggestions.

I went with MRF Zapper FS TL 90/90- 17 for the front.

Inside of the tube had black powder coating, which they cleaned off with the blunt edge of an axo blade, and further with sandpaper. Hopefully, there wont be any air leakage issues.

Bajaj PULSAR 180 DTSi @ 50 Months and 30k kms- Detailed Report-img_5664_800.jpg

para_7k · 28th May 2011, 14:02

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Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Thanks guys for all the suggestions.

I went with MRF Zapper FS TL 90/90- 17 for the front.

Inside of the tube had black powder coating, which they cleaned off with the blunt edge of an axo blade, and further with sandpaper. Hopefully, there wont be any air leakage issues.

Attachment 551814

Looks good. Congrats. Can you let me know the following ?

- What is the price of the tyre and how much for the installation ?
- Does the extra width foul anywhere - mudguard, mudflap etc., ?
- Any effect on handling ? Do you feel the steering tight or does it understeer ?
- How is the braking now given that you have gone wider on the front ?

I'll PM you the other details.

25th May 2011, 11:57	#62
kphilip BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cochin Posts: 333 Thanked: 6 Times	Re: Bajaj PULSAR 180 DTSi @ 50 Months and 30k kms- Detailed Report Crazy Driver, nice hearing about the pulsar 180.I too have a classic pulsar 180 and waiting for an upgrade to 2011 Yamaha R15.What you said about the service was absolutely right. My bike also ran without oil cause of the service fault.I needed a engine overhaul after that..Pathetic..My mileage is around 40.
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26th May 2011, 10:37	#68
kphilip BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cochin Posts: 333 Thanked: 6 Times	Re: Bajaj PULSAR 180 DTSi @ 50 Months and 30k kms- Detailed Report No my bike wasn't modded.Infact the only thing i fitted was a K & N filter and it still does the job..K & N was fitted after the engine overhaul... Indeed am waiting for the 2011 R15.. I'd booked the R15 and hearing the speculation about the new R15 i just cancelled it..My 180 has so far clocked aroung 70K on odo.. Last edited by kphilip : 26th May 2011 at 10:40. Reason: Missed some sentence to add
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26th May 2011, 15:01	#70
kphilip BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cochin Posts: 333 Thanked: 6 Times	Re: Bajaj PULSAR 180 DTSi @ 50 Months and 30k kms- Detailed Report That bike looks brand new.Between how you maintain the plastic colour?Mine has faded and now its grey in color.
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28th May 2011, 12:18	#74
CrAzY dRiVeR Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bangalore / TVM Posts: 18,019 Thanked: 78,925 Times View My Garage	MRF Zapper FS 90/90 - 17 TL. Thanks guys for all the suggestions. I went with MRF Zapper FS TL 90/90- 17 for the front. Inside of the tube had black powder coating, which they cleaned off with the blunt edge of an axo blade, and further with sandpaper. Hopefully, there wont be any air leakage issues. Last edited by CrAzY dRiVeR : 28th May 2011 at 12:19.
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