[amyntor]

Originally Posted by b16h22

Yes, I'm aware of the 750/850 rumor. I was implying that the 650s are already quite porky and this new bigger motor with all the ADV bells and whistles like bashplate, full bodywork, frame strengthening, & dual disc setup is going to nudge 240kgs at least.

Definitely. Even the new Classic 650 without the pillion seat weighs 240 kilos. I'd imagine a fully decked out adventure tourer like the Himalayan would only weigh more with the new bore.

[shyamg28]

Any idea what that additional rod parallel to the forks might be?



I also see (or imagine who knows) some serrations on the visor mounting which may imply easy visor adjustment.



New TFT too. One hopes they have worked with Google on making this more seamless. Android Auto & Carplay is still not there because it displays car routes.

[skviknaraj]

Originally Posted by shyamg28

Any idea what that additional rod parallel to the forks might be?
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They may be used to measure / check the amount of travel for the suspension. Looks like RE wants the tuning of the suspension to be great like the new H450!!

[b16h22]

Originally Posted by shyamg28

Any idea what that additional rod parallel to the forks might be?

They are potentiometers used for suspension related data logging. Used quite extensively in R&D and Motorcycle racing.

https://www.datamc.org/data-acquisit...otentiometers/

[Senotrius]

If priced and done correctly, this could end up being their best seller(500cc+). High time they start giving tubeless spokes or alloys as standard for these bikes. For me personally, a low wet weight or a very low centre of gravity would be paramount. Plus I'm used to the good quality
Fit and finish of Triumph now. As OP said, Norden vibes aplenty.

[maskebail]

Is it just me or does it look like the engine is a stress member here? This definitely does not look like a cradle frame.


RE could try cutting some weight by using a better frame; if they could keep the weight at around 200KG, this could be huge especially if this does get a more powerful ( longer stroke ) engine, A2 compliance should be ignored so they wont need to limit the power.
I cant imagine a tall and top-heavy 240+ KG bike as a do-everything bike.

[jeepster]

Few observations.

• Cylinder and Head is different (LS750)
• Welded rear sub-frame
• All LED lighting (parts sharing with himalayan 450)
• Himalayan 450 rear fender (To fit 450 pannier rack?)

[Axe77]

This is going to be a gamechanger in the value premium (not sure what to call it) ADV touring segment. For those who’re looking for a robust touring machine which has more than your 400 - 450 cc grunt and who don’t want to pay top dollar for the Kawasakis, Triumphs and BMWs, this will be a (presumably much better priced) top pick.

@RE: PLEASE don’t skimp on tubeless wheels - your 650 / 750 cc touring bike buyer will happy pay for these I am extremely confident. Heck if needed, add in an alloy wheel option too!

Things I’d like to see in this 750 cc ADV:

• Tubeless setup
• Good quality choice of tyres
• Good weight management; at least on where it carries the weight even if it can’t control the calories.
• Adjustable windshield (for touring comfort in different conditions - from the images it looks like it’s there)
• Riding modes or at least some basic traction control and ABS control settings. Even if road biased, some off-roading is inevitable in Indian touring conditions.
• Options for adjusting seat height to make it accessible to a wider universe of riders, both tall and short
• Good heat management
• Good tractability and low end grunt with vibe free cruising ability at 100 - 120 kmph range.

[bharath79]

For all the hype and expectations slowly building up if this machine weighs more than the Interceptor it will be interesting how many of us even bother taking a test drive! Example: Bear 650, there is hardly any chatter now.

[amyntor]

Originally Posted by bharath79

Example: Bear 650, there is hardly any chatter now.

That's partly because it weighs 210+ kilos, comes with tubed tyres, and has no centre stand. It's not for the faint of heart to deal with the unfortunate situation of a flat tyre.

[aviator1101]

Originally Posted by Senotrius

If priced and done correctly, this could end up being their best seller(500cc+)

RE has seldom gone wrong with their crowd-puller pricing and this should not be an exception. And if that happens, this could well be the existing 500cc category killer.
Exciting times ahead.

Originally Posted by Axe77

Things I’d like to see in this 750 cc ADV

I would like to add a few more :-

• cruise control
• better fit and finish, especially the front part
• better headlights
• ride by wire (why not carry forward all good things from the Himalayan 450 ?)

Originally Posted by shyamg28

New TFT too. One hopes they have worked with Google on making this more seamless. Android Auto & Carplay is still not there because it displays car routes.

RE should take note of the H450 customer feedback and incorporate those.
The infamous phone soft lock feature should be shunned and something more practical adopted which doesn't drain or fry your phone. As on date 99% of Himalayan owners don't use the TFT navigation (map) feature.

Few of my observations :-

1. This bike would weigh like a GS 850, but have power figures hovering between a Versys 650 and a NX500. So, weight management and thus, power to weight ratio would be very important.

2. Lot of parts have been used from existing inventory. Of course, the 650 cc engine (which may be re-bored) and the Bear 650 two-to-one exhaust.
Hope, in haste, RE doesn't create a Frankenstein.

3. The 650 cc engine has been around for a long time now, so servicing would not be a problem. Mechanics are already trained and familiar with the set-up.

4. I hope heat management is done properly. If launched as a road biased adventure tourer, the air-oil cooled system is ok. But, I feel RE should have done some more R&D and launched this bike with a liquid cooled engine which would have been much more efficient.

5. Lastly, keeping fingers crossed. RE should come out with some indigenous upgrade option for existing Himalayan owners.

Happy miles and Happy New Year 2025 to all..

[Nilesh5417]

One thing RE seriously needs to scale up and improve is their service quality. It's just crazy numbers of bikes right now at the service centers and these folks are drowning. All they want to do is regular service and move on. God forbid your bike has an issue and needs diagnosis, you are pretty much left fighting for attention. And even then, it's no guarantee that you will get any resolution from them.

[Boringrider]

An exciting and long awaited launch, hope to see it within first half of 2025. Although I am genuinely excited a little, my knowledge about RE is telling me to be a little disappointed already. Why?

They will mess up the weight and this will be even more ridiculous than the existing propositions.

Feels like the dual discs will be just for show, no real implication that it will actually get bigger engine. Pricing will be somewhat on the VFM side but this feels like won't be the narrative/history changing ADV revolution bringer.

I was just thinking about this. I used to buy the A2 argument earlier with the 650 platform but it makes no sense when you realise big bike brands abroad will happily sell you a proper 900+ capacity ADV, if A2 is your only obstacle, they can manage it electronically and restrict the output. I doubt it costs a ton to even do so. It is relatively inexpensive. With that in mind, what stops RE from developing higher capacity engines. They could have easily done it with all their existing lineup but they have not.

This is the reason why the hopeful enthusiast inside me dies a little. Companies don't really care much about your enthusiasm, they just want to make money, at the end of the day. They don't run to fulfill your wishes. No doubt this might very well be a huge success and in fact, with the way things are, probably the most sensible upgrade option for someone in the 300cc class. It's wait and watch for me, especially with this one.

[Ratan Prabhu]

Originally Posted by Boringrider

They will mess up the weight and this will be even more ridiculous than the existing propositions.

Feels like the dual discs will be just for show, no real implication that it will actually get bigger engine.

Regarding weight, it won't be right to expect anything below 225 kg. Assuming this 750cc engine is a slightly amended derivative of the 650cc engine, weight will be similar and when the bare bone interceptor/bear 650 weigh over 215kgs, the Himalayan 750 would definitely weigh ~10kg more as the RE650 engine is a very heavy unit.

Regarding dual front disc being just for show and doesn't imply it would have a bigger engine- While we don't have the official news, it makes no sense to have dual brakes when the power will be same as existing engine. A regular 300-320mm front disc of a premium single cyl bike or entry level twin cyl bike costs 4k to 5k INR. Add the caliper and pads costs to it and it will be close to 10k INR total. Doesn't make sense for a VFM product manufacturer like RE to add ~10k worth component without there being a need (Bigger engine and ~55 bhp)

Agreed regarding the A2 license bit but as read elsewhere, the global premium motorcycle sales are dropping. Maybe they are moving towards cheaper alternatives. A foreign buyer might think of getting Himalayan 750 than going for a Tiger or BMW adv at less than half the price ? (This I am just assuming) and for India, there is no such license restriction so this new bigger more powerful engine will be exciting.

[FlankerFury]

Originally Posted by Ratan Prabhu

Doesn't make sense for a VFM product manufacturer like RE to add ~10k worth component without there being a need (Bigger engine and ~55 bhp)

Either it's a bigger engine with >50HP or it weighs earth shatteringly heavy.




The engine shape appears to be different so bigger engine seems more credible.