[WalterWhite]

This new purchase comes just one year after acquiring my Ninja 300, Akira. It wasn't even on my radar! My trusty Yamaha Fazer 25, Lex, served faithfully as my daily commuter. Akira, on the other hand, became my touring companion. Lex, bought in December 2017, has clocked over 65,000 km in these 6.5 years. I was perfectly content with it, until Akira spoiled me. The yearning for more power lingered every time I rode Lex for commuting. This led me to occasionally use Akira for commutes as well, which worked out fine.

The Beginning

One sunny day, I found myself at Honda Big Wing TopLine Kochi with a coworker. We went to check out the newly launched NX500. My friend, an existing Big Wing customer with a CB350 Highness Anniversary Edition, was looking for a touring motorcycle with at least 40hp, so the NX500 naturally caught his eye. While chatting with the sales executive, I casually inquired about the CB300R. He confirmed it was available and priced at ₹3.10 lakh on-road. This sparked a thought in my mind. Having already test-ridden the CB300R, I knew it was a perfect city bike with the right amount of power. The idea of owning one was tempting. I wrestled with the decision. Why spend another ₹3 lakh on a motorcycle? Wouldn't it be wiser to save that money for my first car? In the end, my heart won over my head.

The next hurdle was convincing the accountant at home . Thankfully, it wasn't as difficult as I anticipated. I simply presented the argument that Lex was getting too old for touring(with wife as pillion) and wasn't comfortable anymore. "You know the rear monoshock practically needs replacing – it transfers every bump straight to my spine, something you're well aware of. As for Akira, well, it's strictly a solo ride considering the pillion seat and ground clearance. Any bumps would mean scraping". With a sigh of understanding, she agreed to a new motorcycle, but one that could accommodate both of us. I brought up the CB300R right away. Showed her a couple of pictures of the bike. She was not very interested in the looks. I convinced her saying it looks better in person. Instead of taking a short test ride from the nearby BigWing showroom, we decided to rent it for a day. So that we get plenty of time with the bike. I rent the bike from EVM Wheels Palarivattom—a black CB300R.

Renting a Honda CB300R for a day

The bike was in decent condition with 15K KM on the ODO. The chain was dry. I lubed it once I took the bike home. The black color gives the bike a stealthy look. I liked the red one more.


When the Japanese rivals meet


Overall test ride feedback:
The bike was nimble and responsive. Filtering through traffic was a breeze. The exhaust note was loud and addictive. Rev-matching downshifts were smooth, and the engine pulled willingly through the rev range. Redlining was effortless. Compared to the Fazer, the suspension was very soft, absorbing bumps and potholes effectively with minimal rider discomfort. Overall, I loved the bike! Now, for the pillion test. I took my wife for a 50-kilometer ride. Unfortunately, getting on and off the bike proved difficult for her. Additionally, the high seating position made her feel uneasy. The pillion footrest position, set higher than usual, also contributed to her discomfort. The small pillion seat and lack of space between rider and pillion made it cramped for both of us. Well, we completed the ride. The bike was a big no for her. But I liked it. But, this time, her comfort takes priority. So, with a heavy heart, I had to let go of this exciting little machine.

So What I wanted?

• A comfortable and manageable motorcycle for daily commutes
• Should have better power than Lex
• Should be comfortable for 2up riding
• Better suspension ability to tackle bad roads which I often encounter while commuting

What's Next? - The Scrambler 400X

Since the CB wasn't the perfect fit, the search continued. The comfortable suspension on the CB made me prioritize comfort in my next bike. After extensive research, I shortlisted motorcycles with long-travel suspension and comfortable 2-up riding capabilities. The Triumph Scrambler 400X emerged as the frontrunner. Several factors sealed the deal for the Scrambler. It boasts long-travel suspension, promising a smooth ride for both rider and pillion. The split seats further enhance passenger comfort. The 40hp engine provides ample power, and the positive ownership experience of my colleague with his Speed 400 was a big influence. He's already clocked nearly 10,000 km despite owning it for a short time, thanks to his long 170 km daily commutes. The torque on the Speed 400, which I experienced firsthand, is perfect for navigating city traffic.

Test Riding the Scrambler 400X

I took the initial test ride at Triumph Kochi the following weekend. The first thing I noticed was the higher seat height. Even with my shoes on, I could only tip-toe on both feet. I'm 172cm tall, for reference. The rear suspension settles a bit once you're on the bike, but I still needed to put one foot on the ground for better balance. The bike's weight was manageable, but maneuvering in tight spaces like parking lots required a bit more effort as I couldn't easily plant both feet on the ground. I had to pull the bike back slightly and then swing my leg over. To test the suspension, I took it through the Vytilla Mobility Hub, a notorious area for potholes (though they've been fixed now!). I slowly navigated through the first big pothole and was impressed by how well the bike absorbed the impact. I then increased the speed slightly and the bike handled the next pothole with decent composure. Overall, I was quite pleased with the suspension performance.

Since the initial test ride was limited to the city, I couldn't fully explore the bike's capabilities. I also wanted my wife to experience it. So, I scheduled a second test ride at Triumph Aluva, their showroom exclusively for the Speed 400 and Scrambler 400X. I chose Aluva as it's close to the Container Road, allowing me to test the bike's performance on a more open stretch. My wife accompanied me on this ride, and she found getting on and off the bike a bit challenging due to the seat height. However, once seated, she was comfortable. There's decent space between the rider and pillion, unlike the cramped feeling I experienced on the CB300R. We took the bike to the Container Road, a four-lane highway with generally light traffic. This allowed me to experience the engine's characteristics more. I was particularly impressed by the refinement and the power delivery under 7K RPM. Ultimately, I was very pleased with the bike, and my wife also gave it her seal of approval.

Overall test ride feedback:

• Both front and rear suspension felt softer. Soaks up the potholes and bumps well at low speeds. At high speeds, large bumps and big potholes do register to the rider.
• The handlebar is wide and set higher. I had a comfortable reach to the handlebar.
• The exhaust sound felt more treble than the Speed 400 which has a bassy exhaust note.
• The ignition switch needs to be pressed and held until the engine starts. It's not like you can press and release quickly.
• The bike is eager to move by releasing the clutch without throttle. Low-end torque is decent. The bike pulls nicely from above 2K RPM.
• Pillion comfort is good.
• There’s a noticeable delay in engine response when shifting from 2nd to 3rd gear. It feels like a void for a second before the engine responds.

The Himalayan 450

I also wanted to test ride the Himalayan 450 before commiting for the Scrambler 400X as it also checks most of my requirements. Few of my collegues were also interested in 450. So we planned a trip to Munnar gap road withe a Rented 450. Since the Royal Brothers was close to my location I took the bike from them and had to sacrifice Akira for this ride. I will not get into the details of the ride as I will details it in another thread, probably the Akira ownership thread. So I will put my feedback below after experience it for almost a day.

A rented 450, another 450, Speed 400, CB350 on a ride to Munnar Gap Road


Overall test ride feedback:

• The motorcycle is substantial and it has a lot of road presence
• The side stand leans too much, and combined with the bike's top-heavy nature, getting off the side stand while on the motorcycle is really tough. It becomes even more difficult when you need to park in tight spots.
• The engine feels weak at low revs, especially below 4,000 RPM. There's not much power or torque in this range. But once you cross 4,000 RPM, things start picking up, and you feel a surge of power. However, between 4,500 and 6,000 RPM, the vibrations are quite noticeable and uncomfortable. After 6,000 RPM, the vibrations go away, and the engine feels much smoother. So, to get to the smoother, more refined power band, you have to go through the rough, vibrating range. It's not just the engine vibrations, but there's also a lot of noise and clattering sounds coming from the front. This is not just with the rented 450, I have test ridden one of my friend's 450 which had the same vibrations.
• The suspension felt stiffer compared to the Scrambler 400X, which wasn’t to my liking. I was really hoping for something better after hearing all the positive feedback about the 450's suspension. But honestly, I was a bit disappointed with it.
• Pillion comfort was very good. The pillion seat is larger than that of the Scrambler. My wife gave a positive feedback after being as pillion for few kilometers.
• Overall, the quality and fit and finish didn't feel up to the mark for the price it's asking. It has all the features you’d want, but the refinement is definitely lacking.

The deciding factor

The Himalayan 450, while impressive, felt a bit too much for my intended use. Its weight and wheelbase made it feel a bit unwieldy for everyday riding. And the vibrations at lower RPMs were a concern.Considering these factors, I decided to opt for the Scrambler 400X instead. It seemed to offer a better balance of performance and practicality for my needs.

Saying goodbye to my trusty 2017 Yamaha Fazer 25 and hello to a whole new level of comfort and power! Upgraded to a Triumph Scrambler 400X in Matte Khaki Green.

Meet Terra!

Here are a few photos from the delivery day!

Overall booking and delivery feedback

The bike was booked and delivered by Triumph Kochi. I commend their smooth and transparent service, especially for accommodating my late-evening delivery request due to work commitments. All the requested accessories were already installed on the bike. I also conducted a thorough PDI, which took some time, and I appreciate Triumph Kochi's patience throughout the process.

Overall owenership feedback after completing 5K KMs:

Likes:

• Performance: The power output post 2K RPM is right on the face.
• Refinement: Refinement levels are really good below 7.5K RPM.
• Suspension: Handles bad roads with ease. Decent stability in higher speeds.
• Handling : Handlebar is wide. Decently flickable inside city traffic.
• Looks : Proper scrambler styling with matured looks.
• Fit and Finish : Great qulaity in majority of the area
• Exhaust Sound : Bassy at lower RPMs and high-pitched at higher RPMs.

Dislikes:

• Stalling issue in 2nd gear(more on this later)
• Brakes : Stock breaks pads are pathetic for normal road use.
• Headlight : Almost non existant.
• Top end rev range vibrations : Above 7.5K RPM vibrations are too much
• Seat comfort : The seat comfort proved inadequate on longer rides. Both rider and pillion experienced discomfort due to the firm, almost wooden feel of the seat.
• Instrument Console : What could have gone wrong with a analog tacho and digital speedo?
• The side stand on this bike has a very shallow lean angle, which means the motorcycle stands almost straight up when it's on the side stand. This can be a bit annoying, especially when you're parking on uneven surfaces or on a slope that tilts to the right. It makes the bike less stable in those situations, and you might feel like it could tip over easily.
• It is a dirt magent. The front and rear tyre throws the mud all over the bike. The short front fender with high mud guard accessory makes things worse. I felt this setup is form over function.
• The ignition switch needs to be kept pressed until the engine starts. It takes a couple of seconds for the engine to come to life. If I release the ignition switch before the engine starts and then press it again, the engine cranks but doesn’t start. In such cases, I have to release the switch and press and hold it again until the engine starts. This can be inconvenient, especially at traffic signals. If you’re not familiar with the process, you might find yourself stuck in front of honking vehicles.
• Fuel guage is not accurate

Performance and Refinement:
This 398cc single-cylinder engine produces 40PS at 8000 RPM and 37.5 Nm of torque at 6500 RPM. Power delivery starts to build around 3000 RPM and continues to climb strongly towards the redline. Engine is absolute rocket once you cross the 3K RPM. It just catapults ahead with immense thrust. You can feel a noticeable surge in power around 5500 RPM and again after 7500 RPM. However, low-end torque below 3000 RPM feels a bit lacking. While the engine is refined and smooth below 7500 RPM, things change dramatically above that point. The engine becomes noticeably harsher and more vibey. This is in line with Shumi's observations in his review. The disparity in refinement below and above 7500 RPM is quite jarring. The engine feels smooth and powerful up to 7500 RPM, but beyond that, the vibrations become excessive. The mirrors vibrate significantly, making rear visibility difficult. The handlebars, footpegs, and even the tank transmit these vibrations, making it uncomfortable to stay in that RPM range. This is a real shame because there's clearly more power available above 7500 RPM. However, the excessive vibrations make it difficult to fully utilize the engine's potential. It feels like you're being restricted from accessing that top-end power.

Overall, this bike is a lot of fun once you get the hang of it. It's got just the right amount of power for zipping around in the city. Overtaking other vehicles is easy, and filtering through traffic is a blast. I don’t have much experience on the highway since I mostly use it for commuting to work and for quick coffee runs with my wife in the evenings. I’d say the perfect cruising speed is around 100-120 km/h. At this speed, the RPM stays below 7.5K, so the engine feels smooth and refined.

Clutch and Transmission
The clutch effort is moderate. Gear shifts felt a bit notchy in the initial 1,000 kilometers, but they have become smoother and more effortless with time. However, the gear lever has a somewhat sharp edge that can potentially scuff regular shoes. 1st and 2nd gears felt too short. 3, 4, 5 and 6 are well spaced out.

Mileage
I'm getting around 22-24kmpl with aggressive riding in the city. If I ride more conservatively, I get 26-27 kmpl. I recently took a ride to Wagamon with a pillion rider. The route included a mix of highway, city, and twisties. I achieved an overall fuel efficiency of 30 Kmpl. Which is decent enough. But the city milage is below my expectations.

Brakes:
Brakes are pathetic. Seriously lacks the bite to control this 40-hp little beast. I had a lot of close calls due to the lack of bite. Changed to the sintered pads of the Speed 400 during the 1st service. After which the bite is really good. The only thing is that you need to get a hang of the nose dive, which comes with the strong bite now. I only changed the front brake pads. Rear, I kept it as is. Because rear I use rarely only to support the front brakes when a pillion is onboard or on sudden braking needs. ABS is really good. Saved me in a lot of situations already. So my advice is to get the brake pad changed at the delivery itself. The stock pads are really bad.

Handling:
Handling is decent considering its weight and the suspension setup it gets. The wet weight is 185Kg, which you will feel when you try to pull it back from a parking slot or during tight U turns. Even I feel the weight when I take it off from the stand and pull it towards my front gate. This is because the motorcycle is kind of top heavy, unlike the Ninja 300, which has a very low center of gravity. The good thing is that once you start moving, the weight is not felt. The seat height stands at 835mm. I am 5'6 and I don't have planted feet on both sides at the same time but manageable. In the twisties, the bike felt a bit less agile than I expected. It required a bit more effort to initiate turns, maintain a line, and exit corners smoothly. With a pillion rider, the footpegs scraped the ground sooner, limiting lean angles and making spirited cornering more challenging.

Suspension:
The suspension setup is really good. I liked this setup better than the Himalayan 450. The Himalayan felt too stiff for my liking! Yes, you read it right. Scrambler felt much better in ironing out the potholes, bumps, and imperfections on the road. That being said, the rear shock on the scrambler felt a bit on the stiffer side, and the rebound sometimes makes the ride uncomfortable. The rear spring could have been a bit more on the softer side. Need to see the preload adjustment. May be that will fix the issue for me. Once the pillion is on board, the rear feels much more plush.

Switch Gear and Instrument Console:
The switchgear quality is quite decent. I appreciate Triumph for placing the menu button right next to the horn button, making it easy to switch information or reset the trip meters and average fuel indicator without reaching for the console. Now, about the console—you get an analog speedometer and a digital rev counter. Personally, I would prefer it the other way around. The digital tachometer is so small that you need eagle eyes to read the RPM, especially at higher speeds. I had a hard time figuring out the exact RPM range where the vibrations start to kick in. The fuel gauge is a complete mess. It shows a low fuel warning even when there’s still 5-6 liters left in the tank. It’s never been accurate for me.

Seats:
Both the rider and pillion seat are of the same type, offering only adequate comfort for short commutes. However, prolonged riding, especially over an hour, can lead to discomfort due to the firm seat. Pillion seat locking mechanism is difficult as it takes sometime to put back the seat.

Heat Management:
The engine heats up pretty quickly, but the radiator fan does a good job of cooling it down fast. You don’t really feel the heat once you're riding above 30 km/h, but in slow-moving traffic, I can feel the heat on my left leg, just below the knee. Interestingly, the right leg doesn't feel much of the heat at all. It’s mostly noticeable when you're stuck in traffic. While the fan noise is noticeable, it's often masked by the louder exhaust sound. This is in contrast to the Ninja, where the fan operates silently. The Scrambler's fan likely runs at higher RPMs to cool the larger 400cc engine hence the higer noice I believe.

Fit and Finish:
While the overall fit and finish of the Scrambler 400X is quite good, there are a few minor details that could be improved. Firstly, the black painted steel radiator guard seems a bit out of place compared to the rest of the bike. A stainless steel guard would likely have a more premium look and feel. Secondly, the Triumph logos on the engine cases feel a bit cheap to the touch. Thirdly, the heel plate and the plastic mesh panel under the rider seat could also benefit from higher quality materials. And lastly, the LED indicators tend to fog up even in light rain.


Accessories Installed:
1. Triupmh Luggage Rack : I never got a chance to use it. I had plans to go touring with my wife, but nothing worked out so far except for a one day ride to Munnar Gap road.
2. Triumph High Mudguard : The setup looks great, but it throws dirt straight onto the headlight. Since the headlight has a grill, cleaning it after every ride in the rain becomes a hassle.
3. Triumph Lower Engine Bars : This is strong and high-quality. It provides extra protection to the engine case in case of a fall.
4. Triumph Coated Screen : This also enhances the look of the motorcycle, but on the road, it doesn't provide any wind protection.

The Stalling Issue:

The overall ownership experience was trouble-free and enjoyable till 3,500 kms. But after that, the motorcycle started dying in 2nd gear at slow speeds, whether the clutch was fully engaged or not. At first, it happened very rarely, but as I added more kilometers to the odo, the issue became more frequent. Now, it happens multiple times during every ride, compared to just once in a while in the beginning. This has become really frustrating, especially since I use the bike for office commutes. The issue has really pissed me off by now. So, I took it to Triumph Kochi and explained the problem in detail. However, they’re not acknowledging the issue and are blaming it on the fuel I’m using. I’ve only been using Indian Oil XP95, the same fuel I use for my Akira as well. They adjusted the clutch, saying it could be due to clutch play, but I made it clear that the problem happens even when the clutch isn’t engaged. Now, they’ve given me PROLUBE, a fuel system cleaner, and suggested I use it with 10L of fuel. They give me a 50ML bottle for 98 RS. I will update on this after using it.

Few close-up shots


















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Here are a few pictures from the ride we did on Munnar Gap Road during the running-in period, me and my wife.






My wife and I recently enjoyed a ride to Wagamon. Here are few on the move shots captured with the DJI Osmo Action 4.





Signing off for now, folks! I'll update this thread with my experiences as I put more kilometers on Terra.

[Aditya]

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[sidoza]

Congratulations on Terra! Wish you many thousands of kilometers on this.

One thing that makes me envious is that you could try out a bike for a full day, just by renting it out. Here in Pune, I don't think we have Royal Brothers or anything similar that would give us these kind of bikes for rent.

Anyways, have fun with your new acquisition, in style and comfort!

[TheStoryweaver]

Quite a good review. I got a 400x too last november and the summary you have mentioned lines up pretty well in terms of suspension, rideability and a lot of other elements. Try to check with service center for ecu update. Initially there were many complains about stalling. Hopeful, that gets resolved. The exhausts sounds good when bike has run for 5-7 mins.

The headlight I do find is very weak and good for city rides only. Rest, wishing good miles ahead.

[keeru]

Congratulations !
Stalling issue is the only reason why I didn't go with Scrambler after noticing it during my test ride. To my surprise, the bike was hesitant to start in the middle of the traffic for good 5 min.
Later when I searched about the problem, there were many videos on YT reporting stalling issues and later had heard it got fixed with a Software Update that I don't think got 100% resolved.

Later I had rented a Scrambler and rode it for 2 days and noticed even it was stalling but not that frequent.

Overall, I just loved the bike so very much except the stalling part of it hence went ahead and booked Nx500.

[RD150]

Wonderful review of a wonderful bike. Congratulations!!

I rejected the Honda CB300r for the exact same reason as yours. I got my self the new Yezdi adventure. To be frank, the adventure does 10 things better, but that engine on Cb300r is in a different league altogether.

Both the Speed 400 and Scrambler 400x are suffering from stalling issues. One of my close friends too is facing this issue on his bike.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motor...l#post5917297? (Triumph Speed 400 Review)

[nasirkaka]

Congratulations!! Wishing you many many happy miles.
Nice and crisp analysis of the 400X. I can identify with almost all pros and cons.

The overall ownership experience was trouble-free and enjoyable till 3,500 kms. But after that, the motorcycle started dying in 2nd gear at slow speeds, whether the clutch was fully engaged or not. At first, it happened very rarely, but as I added more kilometers to the odo, the issue became more frequent. Now, it happens multiple times during every ride, compared to just once in a while in the beginning. This has become really frustrating, especially since I use the bike for office commutes. The issue has really pissed me off by now

This is precisely what I have gone through. Initially, the stalling frequency was much less and slowly it increased with time to a point where it was bothersome and a bit scary on some ocassions. Infact, my bike is right now with service station for the exact same reason. I have asked them to replace oil, airfilter and check and replace spark plug if required, in addition to updating ECU. I dont have much hope on stalling issue complete resolve, but I guess 8k kms is good enough interval for an oil change. I have recently tried the injector cleaner mix, but did not help much .

[Chillout]

Congratulations and welcome to Triumph family. Have the Speed 400 and loving it, as for stalling it's definitely an issue, however in the Chennai group , someone suggested half clutch and that is helping immensely and has reduced the stalling to a great extent, do try that and let me know if it works for you. In fact my stalling became worse after the first year service and now using half clutch have almost nill stalling

[rst89]

Congrats for the new bike, I have done 1500 kms on it.

Regarding the stalling issue, I have not stalled it at 2nd gear but feel the engine dying out. I immediately press clutch and downshift to first to prevent the stall while slightly increasing throttle input with clutch pressed. All these happen at low speeds. The main reason may be that we guys have become so confident about the bike that we believe that even in 2nd Gear we can pick it up from very low speeds.

Also I have rarely stalled it at 1st gear, may be twice or thrice in 1500kms.

The bike overall is really good, nimble like a KTM, cruises well along. That's the best out there. After 1st service, it has improved by leaps and bounds.

[Captain_Slow_01]

My friend is also facing the same stalling issue even after the update. Some mornings the vehicle even won't start or stall at the first gear itself. Hope this gets resolved

[WalterWhite]

Originally Posted by sidoza

Congratulations on Terra! Wish you many thousands of kilometers on this.

One thing that makes me envious is that you could try out a bike for a full day, just by renting it out. Here in Pune, I don't think we have Royal Brothers or anything similar that would give us these kind of bikes for rent.

Anyways, have fun with your new acquisition, in style and comfort!

Thanks sidoza for your kind words. Yes, bike rentals allow us to experience the bike fully, which the short showroom test rides don't provide. But Big Wing Honda Top Line Kochi does provide longer test rides on request. Kudos to them. Even Suzuki Kochi does that.

Originally Posted by TheStoryweaver

Quite a good review. I got a 400x too last november and the summary you have mentioned lines up pretty well in terms of suspension, rideability and a lot of other elements. Try to check with service center for ecu update. Initially there were many complains about stalling. Hopeful, that gets resolved. The exhausts sounds good when bike has run for 5-7 mins.

The headlight I do find is very weak and good for city rides only. Rest, wishing good miles ahead.

Thank TheStoryweaver for your kind words. Regarding the ECU update, I think the bike should have gotten it before the delivery itself. Because I got it delivered in May 2024. Prior to that, there was an ECU update happening already. I gave the bike for general checkup last Friday. They have done an ECU update then. Not sure it is the latest one or the pending update you mentioned. Will update on the stalling issue post the ECU update.

Originally Posted by keeru

Congratulations !
Stalling issue is the only reason why I didn't go with Scrambler after noticing it during my test ride. To my surprise, the bike was hesitant to start in the middle of the traffic for good 5 min.
Later when I searched about the problem, there were many videos on YT reporting stalling issues and later had heard it got fixed with a Software Update that I don't think got 100% resolved.

Later I had rented a Scrambler and rode it for 2 days and noticed even it was stalling but not that frequent.

Overall, I just loved the bike so very much except the stalling part of it hence went ahead and booked Nx500.

Thanks keeru for your kind words. NX500 is a wonderful bike. Wish you a lot of happy miles on it.

Originally Posted by RD150

Wonderful review of a wonderful bike. Congratulations!!

I rejected the Honda CB300r for the exact same reason as yours. I got my self the new Yezdi adventure. To be frank, the adventure does 10 things better, but that engine on Cb300r is in a different league altogether.

Both the Speed 400 and Scrambler 400x are suffering from stalling issues. One of my close friends too is facing this issue on his bike.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motor...l#post5917297? (Triumph Speed 400 Review)

Thanks RD150 for your kind words. The CB 300R would be my ideal city bike if not for pillion support.

Originally Posted by nasirkaka

Congratulations!! Wishing you many many happy miles.
Nice and crisp analysis of the 400X. I can identify with almost all pros and cons.



This is precisely what I have gone through. Initially, the stalling frequency was much less and slowly it increased with time to a point where it was bothersome and a bit scary on some ocassions. Infact, my bike is right now with service station for the exact same reason. I have asked them to replace oil, airfilter and check and replace spark plug if required, in addition to updating ECU. I dont have much hope on stalling issue complete resolve, but I guess 8k kms is good enough interval for an oil change. I have recently tried the injector cleaner mix, but did not help much .

Thanks nasirkaka for your kind words. Ask them to do the injector cleaning also. Yes the fuel system cleaner does not resolve the problem completely.

Originally Posted by Chillout

Congratulations and welcome to Triumph family. Have the Speed 400 and loving it, as for stalling it's definitely an issue, however in the Chennai group , someone suggested half clutch and that is helping immensely and has reduced the stalling to a great extent, do try that and let me know if it works for you. In fact my stalling became worse after the first year service and now using half clutch have almost nill stalling

Thanks Chillout for your kind words. Sure will try the half-clutch and see if the stalling is happening.

Originally Posted by rst89

Congrats for the new bike, I have done 1500 kms on it.

Regarding the stalling issue, I have not stalled it at 2nd gear but feel the engine dying out. I immediately press clutch and downshift to first to prevent the stall while slightly increasing throttle input with clutch pressed. All these happen at low speeds. The main reason may be that we guys have become so confident about the bike that we believe that even in 2nd Gear we can pick it up from very low speeds.

Also I have rarely stalled it at 1st gear, may be twice or thrice in 1500kms.

The bike overall is really good, nimble like a KTM, cruises well along. That's the best out there. After 1st service, it has improved by leaps and bounds.

Thanks rst89 for your kind words. The first two gears are very short, so I don't think there is a need to shift to 1st gear in such cases. The problem is, it happens suddenly without any clues. I am yet to grow that muscle memory to make conscious measures to prevent the stalling.

Originally Posted by Captain_Slow_01

My friend is also facing the same stalling issue even after the update. Some mornings the vehicle even won't start or stall at the first gear itself. Hope this gets resolved

I havent faced the morning starting issue yet. How old is the bike in terms of KM?

[Aditya]

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[rst89]

Originally Posted by WalterWhite

Thanks rst89 for your kind words. The first two gears are very short, so I don't think there is a need to shift to 1st gear in such cases. The problem is, it happens suddenly without any clues. I am yet to grow that muscle memory to make conscious measures to prevent the stalling.

This problem also happens when you press clutch for longer time and you're in 2nd gear.
Try to shift to 1st gear when you're in 2nd Gear and you feel the engine dying out, this will help you to prevent stalling. Even though the gears are short, it's not intended that you will be successful every time to pick up the bike from 2nd at low speeds.