In a first, TVS plans to offer ABS in 2-wheelers

reignofchaos · 27th December 2007, 18:05

ABS exists on many high end bikes since ages. I wonder whats so new in this other than the fact that one of the commuter bikes in india have ABS.

vittalnrv · 27th December 2007, 18:48

No point in introducing ABS for an Indian bike as safety precaution.When a 300Kmph+ Hayabusa does not require one why these 100kmph bikes? Indian bikes are better off with Saree Guards and Crash Guards.

ananthkamath · 28th December 2007, 01:04

What a bunch of nonsense. ABS has nothing to do with what speed you're traveling at. Its entirely about how much grip is available and how to maximize braking force for that grip.

Wheel lockups can occur, with much the same results, equally well at 20 km/h and 200 km/h.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 28th December 2007, 01:24

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Originally Posted by IronWolf

What a waste !

Not exactly!

I'm a person who had a fall as the wheels locked up on braking. Many would have similar experiences.

Its not only at 200+ speeds that wheels tend to lock up!

straight6 · 28th December 2007, 06:36

One of the main reasons for motorcycle crashes is that everyone knows how to go fast but not everyone knows how to slow down in a panic situation. ABS is a boon on bikes.

Just because the hayabusa doesnt have it doesnt mean it doesnt require it. ABS increases cost of a bike substantially not to mention increase in weight. Hence most bike manufacturers dont put it on all their bikes.

Not letting the wheel lock up is just one of the 'pros'. More importantly it keeps the vehicle facing in the right direction under hard braking.

In these 'DISGUSTING' Indian conditions, each and every bike should have ABS.

amit_mechengg · 2nd January 2008, 19:44

yes TVS can do it...remember they are the first to launch the 5 speed bike in india....they are the first to launch VTi engine in india for bikes....they have the master piece SHOGUN used for all dirt track racings...first petal disc brakes...high mileage vehicles....

no big issue for them to introduce ABS

hollywoodhogan · 2nd January 2008, 23:18

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Originally Posted by amit_mechengg

yes TVS can do it...remember they are the first to launch the 5 speed bike in india....they are the first to launch VTi engine in india for bikes....they have the master piece SHOGUN used for all dirt track racings...first petal disc brakes...high mileage vehicles....

no big issue for them to introduce ABS

i agree that tvs has a lot of firsts to its name. also i dont think that anyone is disputing whether tvs can or cannot introduce abs. its just that news item quoting tvs who are perhaps claiming to be the first "global"

company to have abs on bikes.

a bit off topic but briefly; i think the enfield fury had the first 5 speed bike and perhaps even before that the yezdi 350 came with a 5 speed box and even before that was the rd with the 6 speed box and the first truly "high-mileage" vehicle was the hh cd100 i think. correct me if i am wrong.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 2nd January 2008, 23:43

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Originally Posted by amit_mechengg

yes TVS can do it...remember they are the first to launch the 5 speed bike in india....they are the first to launch VTi engine in india for bikes....they have the master piece SHOGUN used for all dirt track racings...first petal disc brakes...high mileage vehicles....

no big issue for them to introduce ABS

Shogun always used to be called SUZUKI shogun, and not without reason!

Whats VTi engine?

BUSA · 2nd January 2008, 23:59

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Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Whats VTi engine?

VTi is something like Variable Timing IMO.

chvvkumar · 3rd January 2008, 10:55

ABS is sorely needed on a Blaze more than any other Indian bike. It almost always fishtails under heavy braking.

Joe M · 12th December 2008, 14:38

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Originally Posted by straight6

One of the main reasons for motorcycle crashes is that everyone knows how to go fast but not everyone knows how to slow down in a panic situation. ABS is a boon on bikes.

Just because the hayabusa doesnt have it doesnt mean it doesnt require it. ABS increases cost of a bike substantially not to mention increase in weight. Hence most bike manufacturers dont put it on all their bikes.

Not letting the wheel lock up is just one of the 'pros'. More importantly it keeps the vehicle facing in the right direction under hard braking.

In these 'DISGUSTING' Indian conditions, each and every bike should have ABS.

Absolutely agree with you. In India, especially in Kerala, most of the corners
will have some sand or gravel. In rainy season also, the road is shared by water and vehicles alike. I have felt it very necessary on bikes, because if it's a car that is skidding, we have something to protect us, but on a bike, nothing other than your riding gear. I too have skidded because of the front tire got locked up. And I was not doing more than 40-50 kmph. Hope it'll be common on bikes in near future

esteem_lover · 12th December 2008, 15:51

Has it come out yet ? the bike with ABS ?

Ashpillai · 12th December 2008, 16:00

Yes TVS has the technical and managerial capabilities to introduce ABS (and yes it is not the first "Global Company to do so

)

But the real question is, whether introduction of ABS is in any way "SIGNIFICANTLY" decrease fatal acidents.

Day before yesterday, I had the ringside view of two Pulsar 200s and one P180 (two coming from one direction and one crossing the road) bang head on........ carried one to Fortis Mohali, clothes and car still bloody, wife carried another one, unconcious, bleeding profusely, rest got away with breakages.

What was the most noticeable feature: three bikes, seven guys, 5 drunk and not a single helmet...

The result, the one I carried may not live.

My submission, the Indian biker is still an immature adolescent who still needs to be taught about the virtues of sobriety and helmets. In such a scenario I wonder how many lives will ABS be able to save.....

safari_lover · 12th December 2008, 17:37

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Originally Posted by esteem_lover

Has it come out yet ? the bike with ABS ?

No it hasn't yet. TVS has kind of frozen it's new launches.
An Apache 180cc was expected. But there are no signs of that either.

Joe M · 15th December 2008, 11:56

Has anyone used the ABS marketed by SafeRide? Saferide ABS. It can be fitted on any bike with hydraulic disk brake, and can be installed easily. I was planning to fit one, but haven't read any user review anywhere. It costs only Rs 1500/-, and if it works, I think it's a good bargain.
Does anyone have info about it?

27th December 2007, 18:05	#16
reignofchaos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,558 Thanked: 2,527 Times View My Garage	ABS exists on many high end bikes since ages. I wonder whats so new in this other than the fact that one of the commuter bikes in india have ABS.
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27th December 2007, 18:48	#17
vittalnrv BANNED Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 192 Thanked: 34 Times	No point in introducing ABS for an Indian bike as safety precaution.When a 300Kmph+ Hayabusa does not require one why these 100kmph bikes? Indian bikes are better off with Saree Guards and Crash Guards.
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28th December 2007, 01:04	#18
ananthkamath Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mangalore Posts: 1,209 Thanked: 82 Times View My Garage	What a bunch of nonsense. ABS has nothing to do with what speed you're traveling at. Its entirely about how much grip is available and how to maximize braking force for that grip. Wheel lockups can occur, with much the same results, equally well at 20 km/h and 200 km/h.
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28th December 2007, 06:36	#20
straight6 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bombay Posts: 2,570 Thanked: 323 Times	One of the main reasons for motorcycle crashes is that everyone knows how to go fast but not everyone knows how to slow down in a panic situation. ABS is a boon on bikes. Just because the hayabusa doesnt have it doesnt mean it doesnt require it. ABS increases cost of a bike substantially not to mention increase in weight. Hence most bike manufacturers dont put it on all their bikes. Not letting the wheel lock up is just one of the 'pros'. More importantly it keeps the vehicle facing in the right direction under hard braking. In these 'DISGUSTING' Indian conditions, each and every bike should have ABS.
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2nd January 2008, 19:44	#21
amit_mechengg Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 2,488 Thanked: 2,263 Times View My Garage	yes TVS can do it...remember they are the first to launch the 5 speed bike in india....they are the first to launch VTi engine in india for bikes....they have the master piece SHOGUN used for all dirt track racings...first petal disc brakes...high mileage vehicles.... no big issue for them to introduce ABS
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3rd January 2008, 10:55	#25
chvvkumar BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Visakhapatnam Posts: 44 Thanked: Once	ABS is sorely needed on a Blaze more than any other Indian bike. It almost always fishtails under heavy braking.
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12th December 2008, 15:51	#27
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 513 Times View My Garage	Has it come out yet ? the bike with ABS ?
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12th December 2008, 16:00	#28
Ashpillai BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mohali Posts: 52 Thanked: Once	Yes TVS has the technical and managerial capabilities to introduce ABS (and yes it is not the first "Global Company to do so ) But the real question is, whether introduction of ABS is in any way "SIGNIFICANTLY" decrease fatal acidents. Day before yesterday, I had the ringside view of two Pulsar 200s and one P180 (two coming from one direction and one crossing the road) bang head on........ carried one to Fortis Mohali, clothes and car still bloody, wife carried another one, unconcious, bleeding profusely, rest got away with breakages. What was the most noticeable feature: three bikes, seven guys, 5 drunk and not a single helmet... The result, the one I carried may not live. My submission, the Indian biker is still an immature adolescent who still needs to be taught about the virtues of sobriety and helmets. In such a scenario I wonder how many lives will ABS be able to save.....
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15th December 2008, 11:56	#30
Joe M BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sydney/Cochin Posts: 290 Thanked: 169 Times View My Garage	Has anyone used the ABS marketed by SafeRide? Saferide ABS. It can be fitted on any bike with hydraulic disk brake, and can be installed easily. I was planning to fit one, but haven't read any user review anywhere. It costs only Rs 1500/-, and if it works, I think it's a good bargain. Does anyone have info about it?
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