which bike

Sid Schumacher · 5th February 2005, 11:05

I rode the new Pulsar 150dts-i and I think it isa much more refined bike. The NITROXX that they have introduced makes the ride quality much better esp. for the pillion. Mags give it a sporty look. A unicorn with mags is what Honda would want to introduce.

kphilip · 5th February 2005, 12:42

dude , if u wanna gor refinement and build quality, go for unicorn..If u wanna cruise like anything go for 180 dtsi.Ofcourse mileage is for unicorn when compared to 180..For college studentse 180dtsi is the best.Or if u r more of a matured proffesional i suggest unicorn.

drifter · 5th February 2005, 15:57

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Originally Posted by merve_extreme

See the recent Quality of HH.it feels worse.how have they slashed the price of karizma by 10k without compromising anything.they have reduced the quality ot nonsense.the paint jop sucks.drove a ambition yesterday.gears felt like the had to kicked hard instead of gentle twitch in my 2005.pulsar 180 DTSi.the 2005 model is really good.

also Honda does not take the premium the dealers do take it.they will give ur booked bike to someone else for extra cash.

Did u ride the karizma which has a price cut of 10k?
HH was charging a premium for the bike when it was launched...now the situation has changed and in order to mantain sales, HH have been forced to reduce the 'premium' and not the quality.

Drifter

merve_extreme · 5th February 2005, 23:12

i dont talk without seeing it.i cousin has got one 2 days back.and comparing the build quality of the HH to Bajaj or Honda.HH is the worst and Honda has the best.it is like this if u love the karizma u will always speak for it.have u seen the paint job and the rubber fittings or the stickers.half the sticker on all 4 bikes i saw had air bubbles.

See all the three vehiles side by side and then i bet u to tell me HH has better quality that any of the other two.

drifter · 6th February 2005, 01:36

i cant say about the unicorn, but i have had both the pulsar n now the karizma, the quality is definately better on the karizma when compared to the pulsar. The older pulsars had really smooth engines but lousy gearboxes, the new dtsi has vibrations above 5500rpm.

On the other hand the karizma isnt perfect either, first of all i dont like the way it sounds, the pulsar sounds better in my opinion. n the karizma looks incomplete without a full fairing n tyres look too skinny.

Drifter

merve_extreme · 6th February 2005, 14:28

i am not talking of the engine.the engine is definately more refined in the Karizma.no doubt.i am talking of the build quality of the machine like paint,plastics,details,etc.

dipen · 6th February 2005, 18:20

The last gen pulsar Dtsi is perfect , it takes corners very easily, the quality is really good.
Even the gearbox aint that bad , I would say it is 95% perfect.

rear tyre is slightly broad compared to the unicorn.
The rear tyre thread pattern is awesome unlike the Unicorn which has the same MRF Zappers found in the classic 150 pulsar and first batch of DTSi's.

KArizma is good , but slightly low on FE, (30 compared to 40 of the 180 DTSi)
Quality of Fiber on the Karizma sucks.
Paint quality of Pulsar is better than KArizma IMO.

Now the actual war:::::::::

Now coming to the UNicorn
My friend in BBAy got offers from a dealer ( all amounts without loan -full one shot payment)
UNicorn without self-start === 55500 ( waiting 70 days)
UNicorn with self-start === 58600 ( waiting 95 days)

Pulsar 150 DTsi ===== 56500

Now the Pulsar is readily available
It has alloys

Still Pulsar is expensive by 1000/- compared to the non-self-start Unicorn
OR

Rather Pulsar 150 is cheaper than the Unicorn by abt 2200/- ( Self start unicorn model)
And u dont have to wait for those 3 months.
plus U get alloys , which are good.

Mileage of Pulsar and Unicorn is just 1-2 km difference which dosent matter.

So , Bottomline is,,,, Pulsar kills UNicorn in all aspects IMO.

merve_extreme · 6th February 2005, 20:34

Except for the badge,which people think is like God(Honda) and angle (HH).i Always buy the understated.My pulsar 180 DTSi give 44 KMPL with a little hard driving style.

merve_extreme · 6th February 2005, 20:37

not angle its angel(HH)

carlkapadia · 6th February 2005, 20:38

are you talking about the pulsar 150 or 180??

merve_extreme · 6th February 2005, 22:06

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Originally Posted by carlkapadia

are you talking about the pulsar 150 or 180??

i assume ur asking me.i am talking about the 2005 Pulsar 180 DTSi with magwheels and nitrox shocks.

papps · 7th February 2005, 12:22

the unicorn for me too, i dont think anyone can beat honda on an overall good bike especially not bajaj

revtech · 7th February 2005, 17:59

no...
was askin dipen.which nike are you talking about?

dipen · 9th February 2005, 00:41

revtech , I was talking abt the P180 when talking abt the gearbox
Was referring to P150, when I compared mileage.

IMO , P150 is a full 4500 cheaper than the UNicorn , 2000 actual price difference and 2500 for the above average quality alloys...

IMO the UNicorn looks bland.
IMO , Pulsar wins by a solid margin over the UNicorn .

revtech · 11th February 2005, 23:06

i saw the unicorn today wasnt really happy with the looks. it had normal spokes and the tyres were not that thick either.does the pulsar 150 and 180 come with alloy wheel. and what is the av fuel economy of pulsaar 180 n 150 and unicorn.

View Poll Results: which bike??
pulsar 150	0	0%
pulsar 150 dts i	4	6.35%
pulsar 180	1	1.59%
pulsar 180 dts i	32	50.79%
honda unicorn	26	41.27%
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5th February 2005, 11:05	#16
Sid Schumacher BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 262 Thanked: 3 Times	I rode the new Pulsar 150dts-i and I think it isa much more refined bike. The NITROXX that they have introduced makes the ride quality much better esp. for the pillion. Mags give it a sporty look. A unicorn with mags is what Honda would want to introduce.
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5th February 2005, 12:42	#17
kphilip BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cochin Posts: 333 Thanked: 6 Times	dude , if u wanna gor refinement and build quality, go for unicorn..If u wanna cruise like anything go for 180 dtsi.Ofcourse mileage is for unicorn when compared to 180..For college studentse 180dtsi is the best.Or if u r more of a matured proffesional i suggest unicorn.
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5th February 2005, 23:12	#19
merve_extreme Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,359 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	i dont talk without seeing it.i cousin has got one 2 days back.and comparing the build quality of the HH to Bajaj or Honda.HH is the worst and Honda has the best.it is like this if u love the karizma u will always speak for it.have u seen the paint job and the rubber fittings or the stickers.half the sticker on all 4 bikes i saw had air bubbles. See all the three vehiles side by side and then i bet u to tell me HH has better quality that any of the other two.
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6th February 2005, 01:36	#20
drifter Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,488 Thanked: 75 Times View My Garage	i cant say about the unicorn, but i have had both the pulsar n now the karizma, the quality is definately better on the karizma when compared to the pulsar. The older pulsars had really smooth engines but lousy gearboxes, the new dtsi has vibrations above 5500rpm. On the other hand the karizma isnt perfect either, first of all i dont like the way it sounds, the pulsar sounds better in my opinion. n the karizma looks incomplete without a full fairing n tyres look too skinny. Drifter
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6th February 2005, 14:28	#21
merve_extreme Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,359 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	i am not talking of the engine.the engine is definately more refined in the Karizma.no doubt.i am talking of the build quality of the machine like paint,plastics,details,etc.
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6th February 2005, 18:20	#22
dipen Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 2,269 Thanked: 827 Times	The last gen pulsar Dtsi is perfect , it takes corners very easily, the quality is really good. Even the gearbox aint that bad , I would say it is 95% perfect. rear tyre is slightly broad compared to the unicorn. The rear tyre thread pattern is awesome unlike the Unicorn which has the same MRF Zappers found in the classic 150 pulsar and first batch of DTSi's. KArizma is good , but slightly low on FE, (30 compared to 40 of the 180 DTSi) Quality of Fiber on the Karizma sucks. Paint quality of Pulsar is better than KArizma IMO. Now the actual war::::::::: Now coming to the UNicorn My friend in BBAy got offers from a dealer ( all amounts without loan -full one shot payment) UNicorn without self-start === 55500 ( waiting 70 days) UNicorn with self-start === 58600 ( waiting 95 days) Pulsar 150 DTsi ===== 56500 Now the Pulsar is readily available It has alloys Still Pulsar is expensive by 1000/- compared to the non-self-start Unicorn OR Rather Pulsar 150 is cheaper than the Unicorn by abt 2200/- ( Self start unicorn model) And u dont have to wait for those 3 months. plus U get alloys , which are good. Mileage of Pulsar and Unicorn is just 1-2 km difference which dosent matter. So , Bottomline is,,,, Pulsar kills UNicorn in all aspects IMO. Last edited by dipen : 6th February 2005 at 18:21.
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6th February 2005, 20:34	#23
merve_extreme Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,359 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	Except for the badge,which people think is like God(Honda) and angle (HH).i Always buy the understated.My pulsar 180 DTSi give 44 KMPL with a little hard driving style.
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6th February 2005, 20:37	#24
merve_extreme Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,359 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	not angle its angel(HH)
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6th February 2005, 20:38	#25
carlkapadia Newbie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 4 Thanked: 0 Times	are you talking about the pulsar 150 or 180??
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7th February 2005, 12:22	#27
papps BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 271 Thanked: 0 Times	the unicorn for me too, i dont think anyone can beat honda on an overall good bike especially not bajaj
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7th February 2005, 17:59	#28
revtech Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,992 Thanked: 39 Times View My Garage	no... was askin dipen.which nike are you talking about?
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9th February 2005, 00:41	#29
dipen Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 2,269 Thanked: 827 Times	revtech , I was talking abt the P180 when talking abt the gearbox Was referring to P150, when I compared mileage. IMO , P150 is a full 4500 cheaper than the UNicorn , 2000 actual price difference and 2500 for the above average quality alloys... IMO the UNicorn looks bland. IMO , Pulsar wins by a solid margin over the UNicorn .
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11th February 2005, 23:06	#30
revtech Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,992 Thanked: 39 Times View My Garage	i saw the unicorn today wasnt really happy with the looks. it had normal spokes and the tyres were not that thick either.does the pulsar 150 and 180 come with alloy wheel. and what is the av fuel economy of pulsaar 180 n 150 and unicorn.
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