Headlight Upgrade for Bajaj Pulsar 150 DTSi

Chipz · 2nd December 2010, 06:54

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Originally Posted by abhipuru16

Guys!
Have a query.
I own a Pulsar 200 and I am thinking of using a 200W headlight relay meant for cars and use it in my bike with a 100/90 or 130/90 or maybe even 55/60 bulb from Philips.

Would there be any problem because as far as I know the car's headlight run on DC and not the bike's?

Why do you want 100/90 bulbs. You wont believe how much heat is generated. The pulsar assembly wont take the heat. Like sagarpadaki said it will burn the glass, the reflector, and the wiring. You will end up birning the coil. Get a good 55W halogen.

abhipuru16 · 2nd December 2010, 14:52

Alright, I'll go for 55/60 but, are you sure that this mod can be done on the Pulsar 200.
I heard it can be performed only on Pulsar 150s or 180s.
Please clear the air for me.

abhipuru16 · 6th December 2010, 23:06

^^Please help me out, guys!

sagarpadaki · 7th December 2010, 20:30

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Originally Posted by abhipuru16

^^Please help me out, guys!

Yes if you have a pulsar 200 running on AC then it can be done without a hitch! go ahead and get it done.Even i was apprehensive like you about this>But took the plunge anyway and the results are great!

abhipuru16 · 7th December 2010, 20:50

Also, is there a feasible way to avoid the flickering of headlamp on idle?
I mean putting it directly on battery and switch with ignition?

abhipuru16 · 8th December 2010, 14:11

Guys, I asked TCS Bajaj (the only Bajaj Authorized dealer in Faridabad) for the Avenger 180 coil. As usual, they do not have it in stock. They are telling me to place an order and wait for a week or even two to receive it. Please tell me some other place preferably in Faridabad or South Delhi to get this part.

sagarpadaki · 13th December 2010, 22:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhipuru16

Also, is there a feasible way to avoid the flickering of headlamp on idle?
I mean putting it directly on battery and switch with ignition?

You can connect the headlamp directly to battery(through a relay) or change your setup to DC

ilangop · 2nd November 2011, 16:09

Sorry for waking up an old thread, but still I am hunting for some info pertaining to this topic.
My brother had always complained of the stock 35W bulb in his P220 with the P180 faring. He did not opt for (like) the HID setup. In a move to upgrade the Headlamp I wanted to know if the coil in the DTS-i & DTS-FI were the same or not? Is it safe to simply swap the 35W H4 with a 55/60W H4.
Many of the bhpians have mentioned lots about the coil upgrade. Yet I am skeptical regarding the rectifier / regulator unit. Will it be able to stand the higher load of about 1.3A?
Thanks in advance for anyone who can share the wiring diagram of P220 DTS-i with the P180 faring.

ankushmulay · 8th November 2011, 12:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilangop

Sorry for waking up an old thread, but still I am hunting for some info pertaining to this topic.
My brother had always complained of the stock 35W bulb in his P220 with the P180 faring. He did not opt for (like) the HID setup. In a move to upgrade the Headlamp I wanted to know if the coil in the DTS-i & DTS-FI were the same or not? Is it safe to simply swap the 35W H4 with a 55/60W H4.
Many of the bhpians have mentioned lots about the coil upgrade. Yet I am skeptical regarding the rectifier / regulator unit. Will it be able to stand the higher load of about 1.3A?
Thanks in advance for anyone who can share the wiring diagram of P220 DTS-i with the P180 faring.

Hi Ilangpop,
There are two options you can do.
1. Please check if Avenger 180's & P220's stator plate are identical. If they are you can directly put it and get a 55/60w headlight power. I have done this to my P150. Beautiful spread. You can do this by going to an authorised service station and check out both the service manuals that those guys have. If the pictures of both the stator plate mountings and the connections matches.... BINGO...! Nitin Scooters near Ramanbaug, Narayan Peth is the place where I got it done. Cost of stator plate is INR 500-550 + bulb
2. You can add a relay and then you can might as well put a 90/100w bulb...!
Please let me know which method you opted and what are the results.

hrish90 · 1st March 2013, 16:13

Hey folks, I have the Pulsar 150 Dtsi (2005 Model, Non-Digital). Just yesterday I'd installed the Monster Energy x9 HID Kit for my bike from Lamington Road, Grant Road, Mumbai.
As you know the pulsar has the AC setup for the headlight, which I was told is the headlight not working without starting the bike, the mechanic converted it to DC (just by changing some wiring and he also used the term cutout).
Well, the HID is pretty much awesome and very bright. No complaints about it. Everything went good, but after a 25km ride, suddenly my horn stopped working, and then also the self-start. Also when I use the pass light, it switched off the light after the 25km ride due to the battery drain I guess. After riding the bike for sometime without the HID, my horn started working and so did the selfstart (not as effective as earlier).
What I did was I called my mechanic and he asked me to check for the water in the battery. My battery is just 1 year old and the water level was good. The excide battery guys asked me to charge the battery. My mechanic asked me to charge the battery and then check for the battery charger if its working properly. If not, he would put a customized charger or something like that and if the charger is not working he asked me to replace it.
I do not have knowledge about this so I have no say in it, and nor do I understand the terms so I did what he asked me to. Now I am waiting for the battery to come back from charge as only then I could check if the battery charger is working.
I have searched online and looks like many people who have switched from AC to DC have battery drain issues after installing the HID.
I have been trying to find the solution but there are many techinacal worlds involved which I really don't understand and also too many methods which are confusing, like changing the coil, rectifier etc.
Do u think my mechanic is going in the correct path? Or the problem is something else which he is not able to troubleshoot ?
Many thanks,
Hrishi.

hrish90 · 1st March 2013, 20:59

UPDATE:
I got my battries charged and water level checked. No problem with the battery there.
The battery dude checked with the battery charger, it seemed to work fine until he started the HID. It caused a drop in batter power instead of charging the battery. All this was done after starting the bike and revving it.
Now my mechanic asked me to come meet him tomorrow and he will put an additional charger sought of a thing. I have no idea what he plans to do.

ashwin.terminat · 5th March 2013, 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilangop

Sorry for waking up an old thread, but still I am hunting for some info pertaining to this topic.
My brother had always complained of the stock 35W bulb in his P220 with the P180 faring. He did not opt for (like) the HID setup. In a move to upgrade the Headlamp I wanted to know if the coil in the DTS-i & DTS-FI were the same or not? Is it safe to simply swap the 35W H4 with a 55/60W H4.
Many of the bhpians have mentioned lots about the coil upgrade. Yet I am skeptical regarding the rectifier / regulator unit. Will it be able to stand the higher load of about 1.3A?
Thanks in advance for anyone who can share the wiring diagram of P220 DTS-i with the P180 faring.

The P220 comes with a Full DC setup. There is absolutely no need to change the coil or rewire anything. Infact, the present P180 is also Full DC. Just swap the 35W with a 55/60W and you're good to go.

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Originally Posted by hrish90

UPDATE:
I got my batteries charged and water level checked. No problem with the battery there.
The battery dude checked with the battery charger, it seemed to work fine until he started the HID. It caused a drop in batter power instead of charging the battery. All this was done after starting the bike and revving it.
Now my mechanic asked me to come meet him tomorrow and he will put an additional charger sought of a thing. I have no idea what he plans to do.

Is the HID fixed directly to the battery?

I changed my bike from AC to DC around 8 months ago, plonked in a 55/60W bulb. No issues ever since.

hrish90 · 6th March 2013, 00:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashwin.terminat

Is the HID fixed directly to the battery?

I changed my bike from AC to DC around 8 months ago, plonked in a 55/60W bulb. No issues ever since.

Well, by what i understand he said that he's put a cut-out. It didnt work very well because it drained by battery. I went to him again and he's put something on the battery. Look at the image, i've highlighted it

It kinda helped me a lot, does not drain my battery. But however, if i start my HID for a less time, say just for a 2mins ride, then it drains the battery.
Is there something wrong with my wiring or what ?

Headlight Upgrade for Bajaj Pulsar 150 DTSi-img2013030300070.jpg

ashwin.terminat · 6th March 2013, 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by hrish90

Well, by what i understand he said that he's put a cut-out. It didnt work very well because it drained by battery. I went to him again and he's put something on the battery. Look at the image, i've highlighted it

It kinda helped me a lot, does not drain my battery. But however, if i start my HID for a less time, say just for a 2mins ride, then it drains the battery.
Is there something wrong with my wiring or what ?

I'm not expert in this. So I'm not going to mislead you by giving you my opinion.

2nd December 2010, 14:52	#62
abhipuru16 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Faridabad Posts: 719 Thanked: 40 Times	Alright, I'll go for 55/60 but, are you sure that this mod can be done on the Pulsar 200. I heard it can be performed only on Pulsar 150s or 180s. Please clear the air for me.
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6th December 2010, 23:06	#63
abhipuru16 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Faridabad Posts: 719 Thanked: 40 Times	^^Please help me out, guys!
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7th December 2010, 20:50	#65
abhipuru16 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Faridabad Posts: 719 Thanked: 40 Times	Also, is there a feasible way to avoid the flickering of headlamp on idle? I mean putting it directly on battery and switch with ignition?
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8th December 2010, 14:11	#66
abhipuru16 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Faridabad Posts: 719 Thanked: 40 Times	Re: Headlight for Bajaj Pulsar 150 DTSi Guys, I asked TCS Bajaj (the only Bajaj Authorized dealer in Faridabad) for the Avenger 180 coil. As usual, they do not have it in stock. They are telling me to place an order and wait for a week or even two to receive it. Please tell me some other place preferably in Faridabad or South Delhi to get this part.
	() Thanks

2nd November 2011, 16:09	#68
ilangop BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 992 Thanked: 903 Times View My Garage	P220 DTSi HL upgrade Sorry for waking up an old thread, but still I am hunting for some info pertaining to this topic. My brother had always complained of the stock 35W bulb in his P220 with the P180 faring. He did not opt for (like) the HID setup. In a move to upgrade the Headlamp I wanted to know if the coil in the DTS-i & DTS-FI were the same or not? Is it safe to simply swap the 35W H4 with a 55/60W H4. Many of the bhpians have mentioned lots about the coil upgrade. Yet I am skeptical regarding the rectifier / regulator unit. Will it be able to stand the higher load of about 1.3A? Thanks in advance for anyone who can share the wiring diagram of P220 DTS-i with the P180 faring.
	() Thanks

1st March 2013, 16:13	#70
hrish90 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 27 Thanked: 0 Times	Pulsar 150 Dtsi AC to DC HID Help Hey folks, I have the Pulsar 150 Dtsi (2005 Model, Non-Digital). Just yesterday I'd installed the Monster Energy x9 HID Kit for my bike from Lamington Road, Grant Road, Mumbai. As you know the pulsar has the AC setup for the headlight, which I was told is the headlight not working without starting the bike, the mechanic converted it to DC (just by changing some wiring and he also used the term cutout). Well, the HID is pretty much awesome and very bright. No complaints about it. Everything went good, but after a 25km ride, suddenly my horn stopped working, and then also the self-start. Also when I use the pass light, it switched off the light after the 25km ride due to the battery drain I guess. After riding the bike for sometime without the HID, my horn started working and so did the selfstart (not as effective as earlier). What I did was I called my mechanic and he asked me to check for the water in the battery. My battery is just 1 year old and the water level was good. The excide battery guys asked me to charge the battery. My mechanic asked me to charge the battery and then check for the battery charger if its working properly. If not, he would put a customized charger or something like that and if the charger is not working he asked me to replace it. I do not have knowledge about this so I have no say in it, and nor do I understand the terms so I did what he asked me to. Now I am waiting for the battery to come back from charge as only then I could check if the battery charger is working. I have searched online and looks like many people who have switched from AC to DC have battery drain issues after installing the HID. I have been trying to find the solution but there are many techinacal worlds involved which I really don't understand and also too many methods which are confusing, like changing the coil, rectifier etc. Do u think my mechanic is going in the correct path? Or the problem is something else which he is not able to troubleshoot ? Many thanks, Hrishi.
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1st March 2013, 20:59	#71
hrish90 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 27 Thanked: 0 Times	Re: Pulsar 150 Dtsi AC to DC HID Help UPDATE: I got my battries charged and water level checked. No problem with the battery there. The battery dude checked with the battery charger, it seemed to work fine until he started the HID. It caused a drop in batter power instead of charging the battery. All this was done after starting the bike and revving it. Now my mechanic asked me to come meet him tomorrow and he will put an additional charger sought of a thing. I have no idea what he plans to do.
	() Thanks