Help required for restoring Enfield Fury 175 gp

powertwin · 3rd May 2009, 22:04

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Originally Posted by siddartha

hey everybody , puttin up a pic of some of the parts that i need for the engine rebuild. hey trammway thanks a lot for offering the help , please have a look these parts.

part no 1
part no. 2 :
part no.3
part no 4 :
part no 5 :
part no 6&7 : engine mounting rubbers/beddings.

other than these i need the following :
1 set of rings

5 carb inlet manifold.
6 front brake master and wheel cylinder kits
7 set of all cables
8 set of indicators

11 brake pads

In the above list :
I can give you my spare Rings set ( Nippon / Enfeild' O.E)
Indicators, inlet manifold..............have to check with my friend.
Brake pads.........Brembo is difficult to source ( bit expensive to!!)
some Indian make,think we can.
cheers!!

powertwin · 3rd May 2009, 22:25

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Originally Posted by siddartha

hey everybody , puttin up a pic of some of the parts that i need for the engine rebuild. hey trammway thanks a lot for offering the help , please have a look these parts.

part no 1 : engine/ crankshaft bearings.
part no. 2 : gear selector shaft.
part no.3 : kicker shaft
part no 4 : gear "push " rod.
part no 5 : first gear cog
part no 6&7 : engine mounting rubbers/beddings.

other than these i need the following :
1 set of rings
2 gudegeon pin
3 packing kit
4 oil seals
5 carb inlet manifold.
6 front brake master and wheel cylinder kits
7 set of all cables
8 set of indicators
9 gear palls and spring.
10 "dx" model side panels and rear mudguard.
11 brake pads

i know this is a huge list of mostly non existant parts . i will be happy find atleast some of the above parts with everybody's help. what i dont find i will make do with what ever i already have.

Some O.E's & Some alternatives:
1) Do not ask for Fury crank bearings.....just take the sample to the Exclusive
Bearing retail shop ( at Chennai or Mumbai)ask them, sure its available in "Swedan SKF",but may not be readily availble,....order and get it.
2) Stuffs like Packing kit ,has to be made
3) Reg Oil seals..............get as per sample from decent " Industrial Oil seal dealars"
4) Cables.............easy to find substiutes from the new gen bikes
5) If you need master cylnder washers & caliper washers,......that too get it from "Oil seal & O ring" dealars.
Other parts.....as on date...no idea,let me try.
ps: Confirm me......pm me

siddartha · 18th May 2009, 17:47

hey powertwin , what indicators are you using on your bike , are they shogun indicators?

powertwin · 19th May 2009, 15:14

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Originally Posted by siddartha

hey powertwin , what indicators are you using on your bike , are they shogun indicators?

it is "Shogan" Trafficators, where you see in the pics posted here !!!
but I have the original indicators

siddartha · 19th May 2009, 18:55

list of parts found/ procured after lots of searching.
1.packing kit
2. piston rings ( 2 sets)
3. all oil seals.
4. bearings for both ends of the con rod.
5. carb inlet manifold.
6.foot pegs
7. dx side panels
8 "magura" master cylinder.
9. headlight/indicators combinations switches.
10.ignition coil.
11. front sprocket.
12.clutch plates
13. engine mounting rubbers/beddings.
14. gear "push" rod
15. kicker shaft
16. gear selector shaft.
17 . connecting rod.

one very critical component still not found: 1 gear cog.

powertwin · 19th May 2009, 20:11

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Originally Posted by powertwin

it is "Shogan" Trafficators, where you see in the pics posted here !!!
but I have the original indicators

@ Sid :Have a look at the Fury's indicators ( which i hold in my hand)
Just for comparision, have also posted "Shogan's indicator light also"( seen fitted in my Fury)

Congrats,for sourcing so many parts !!! was it from a "FURY DONOR" or from a gentleman from Bangy ( sorry ,couldnt recollect his name) ??

siddartha · 19th May 2009, 20:17

@powertwin: none of the parts are from a "donor" fury. managed to get parts from 3 different sources , may be one of them is the same person you are talking abt. i dont know.

do you have extra set of indicators?

Thanh-BKK · 19th May 2009, 21:17

Hi

These are standard ULO indicators, Zundapp used them on pretty much every model fitted with indicators (except for K80, KS 80 Super and KS 80 Sport). Widely and cheaply available in Germany

Kind regards.....

Thanh

siddartha · 20th May 2009, 12:55

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Originally Posted by Thanh-BKK

Hi

These are standard ULO indicators, Zundapp used them on pretty much every model fitted with indicators (except for K80, KS 80 Super and KS 80 Sport). Widely and cheaply available in Germany

Kind regards.....

Thanh

now i will have to find friends / make friends in germany.

Thanh-BKK · 20th May 2009, 13:41

Hi

All you need is E-Bay and a PayPal account.... have a look:

http://cgi.ebay.de/4-Stueck-Zuendapp-CS-50-KS-50-80-Blinker-530-16-768-6-V_W0QQitemZ330267891500QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorrad _Kraftradteile?hash=item330267891500&_trksid=p3286 .c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1229|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1| 240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50

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With kind regards....

Thanh

powertwin · 22nd May 2009, 20:49

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Originally Posted by siddartha

@powertwin: none of the parts are from a "donor" fury. managed to get parts from 3 different sources , may be one of them is the same person you are talking abt. i dont know.

do you have extra set of indicators?

Sorry, No extras !!!
Let me try with a friend at Kerala (He has 1 or 2 sets, will ask him,wether he is ready to part it )

sandeepm · 2nd June 2009, 17:38

Hmmm.. pretty lucky to find all these parts. Hope they were genuine... especially the selector shaft..

I also got a bunch of parts for my bike from Delhi, Coimbi and Blr.. but many turned out to be fake.. waste of money :(

Repurchased most, but still havent got a kick lever spring..

who's doing up the bike? Mine is with R in Kmangala.. (and is going to be buried there I think

Sandeep

Quote:

Originally Posted by siddartha

list of parts found/ procured after lots of searching.
1.packing kit
2. piston rings ( 2 sets)
3. all oil seals.
4. bearings for both ends of the con rod.
5. carb inlet manifold.
6.foot pegs
7. dx side panels
8 "magura" master cylinder.
9. headlight/indicators combinations switches.
10.ignition coil.
11. front sprocket.
12.clutch plates
13. engine mounting rubbers/beddings.
14. gear "push" rod
15. kicker shaft
16. gear selector shaft.
17 . connecting rod.

one very critical component still not found: 1 gear cog.

Thanh-BKK · 2nd June 2009, 18:45

Hi

The kick lever spring is identical to the one in the Explorer, in case it is easier for you to find one such. Indeed the kick starter itself, while not identical in looks, will fit just fine. The kick starter on my KS 175 broke twice and each time, during the time it took to have it welded, i temporarily replaced it with one from a C50 Sport, worked just fine.

Kind regards.

Thanh

sandeepm · 3rd June 2009, 17:31

Hi Thanh,

Actually I did get the explorer spring. But it seems to be weaker than the KS175 ... the return is pretty limp and I suspect it wont last long..

Hence the search for the Fury spring..

Sandeep

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thanh-BKK

Hi

The kick lever spring is identical to the one in the Explorer, in case it is easier for you to find one such. Indeed the kick starter itself, while not identical in looks, will fit just fine. The kick starter on my KS 175 broke twice and each time, during the time it took to have it welded, i temporarily replaced it with one from a C50 Sport, worked just fine.

Kind regards.

Thanh

Thanh-BKK · 3rd June 2009, 20:11

Hi

Actually the springs are indeed identical, same part number in Zundapp part catalogue. I have practical experience, as mentioned it happened to me before - the entire kick starter assembly from the Explorer (Zundapp CS 50) can be used on the Fury (Zundapp KS 175). Actually pretty much all Zundapp models with the pushrod gearboxes and 3 to 5 gears use identical kick starters and springs, only the rear plate differs between some of the older models (old Sport Combinette and Falconette with fan cooling), anything from type 517 (late 60's) onward is identical right to the last 1984 GTS 50 five-speed (type 529). That of course includes the KS 100, KS 125 and KS 175 in all versions and others where such engine was used (GS and MC models, Laverda LZ 125).

You may need to wind the spring one more turn which is a little tricky as the spring loves to slip out of the retainer (correct word..?) on the rear plate. I don't know how to correctly explain in English. I often spend considerable time getting that spring in there as i had to change kick starters on customer's mopeds quite often. Wear some sort of goggles when handling that spring, if it does come out it does so fiercely

Kind regards.....

Thanh

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siddartha BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: bangalore Posts: 671 Thanked: 24 Times	hey powertwin , what indicators are you using on your bike , are they shogun indicators?
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19th May 2009, 18:55	#80
siddartha BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: bangalore Posts: 671 Thanked: 24 Times	list of parts found/ procured after lots of searching. 1.packing kit 2. piston rings ( 2 sets) 3. all oil seals. 4. bearings for both ends of the con rod. 5. carb inlet manifold. 6.foot pegs 7. dx side panels 8 "magura" master cylinder. 9. headlight/indicators combinations switches. 10.ignition coil. 11. front sprocket. 12.clutch plates 13. engine mounting rubbers/beddings. 14. gear "push" rod 15. kicker shaft 16. gear selector shaft. 17 . connecting rod. one very critical component still not found: 1 gear cog.
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19th May 2009, 20:17	#82
siddartha BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: bangalore Posts: 671 Thanked: 24 Times	@powertwin: none of the parts are from a "donor" fury. managed to get parts from 3 different sources , may be one of them is the same person you are talking abt. i dont know. do you have extra set of indicators? Last edited by siddartha : 19th May 2009 at 20:18.
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19th May 2009, 21:17	#83
Thanh-BKK Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bangkok Posts: 24 Thanked: 6 Times	Hi These are standard ULO indicators, Zundapp used them on pretty much every model fitted with indicators (except for K80, KS 80 Super and KS 80 Sport). Widely and cheaply available in Germany Kind regards..... Thanh
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20th May 2009, 13:41	#85
Thanh-BKK Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bangkok Posts: 24 Thanked: 6 Times	Hi All you need is E-Bay and a PayPal account.... have a look: http://cgi.ebay.de/4-Stueck-Zuendapp-CS-50-KS-50-80-Blinker-530-16-768-6-V_W0QQitemZ330267891500QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorrad _Kraftradteile?hash=item330267891500&_trksid=p3286 .c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1229\|66%3A2\|65%3A12\|39%3A1\| 240%3A1318\|301%3A1\|293%3A1\|294%3A50 http://cgi.ebay.de/Zuendapp-Blinker-CS-GTS-KS-Hai-50-80-125-175-517-529-530_W0QQitemZ400049986513QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorr ad_Kraftradteile?hash=item400049986513&_trksid=p32 86.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1229\|66%3A2\|65%3A12\|39%3A 1\|240%3A1318\|301%3A1\|293%3A1\|294%3A50 http://cgi.ebay.de/Zuendapp-Blinker-6V_W0QQitemZ270376427074QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorra d_Kraftradteile?hash=item270376427074&_trksid=p328 6.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1229\|66%3A2\|65%3A12\|39%3A1 \|240%3A1318\|301%3A0\|293%3A1\|294%3A50 With kind regards.... Thanh
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2nd June 2009, 18:45	#88
Thanh-BKK Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bangkok Posts: 24 Thanked: 6 Times	Hi The kick lever spring is identical to the one in the Explorer, in case it is easier for you to find one such. Indeed the kick starter itself, while not identical in looks, will fit just fine. The kick starter on my KS 175 broke twice and each time, during the time it took to have it welded, i temporarily replaced it with one from a C50 Sport, worked just fine. Kind regards. Thanh
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3rd June 2009, 20:11	#90
Thanh-BKK Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bangkok Posts: 24 Thanked: 6 Times	Hi Actually the springs are indeed identical, same part number in Zundapp part catalogue. I have practical experience, as mentioned it happened to me before - the entire kick starter assembly from the Explorer (Zundapp CS 50) can be used on the Fury (Zundapp KS 175). Actually pretty much all Zundapp models with the pushrod gearboxes and 3 to 5 gears use identical kick starters and springs, only the rear plate differs between some of the older models (old Sport Combinette and Falconette with fan cooling), anything from type 517 (late 60's) onward is identical right to the last 1984 GTS 50 five-speed (type 529). That of course includes the KS 100, KS 125 and KS 175 in all versions and others where such engine was used (GS and MC models, Laverda LZ 125). You may need to wind the spring one more turn which is a little tricky as the spring loves to slip out of the retainer (correct word..?) on the rear plate. I don't know how to correctly explain in English. I often spend considerable time getting that spring in there as i had to change kick starters on customer's mopeds quite often. Wear some sort of goggles when handling that spring, if it does come out it does so fiercely Kind regards..... Thanh
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