[Mr.U]

Originally Posted by Turbolove

Now I've been considering downsizing to the AX variant wheels with 245/75r16 tyres which have taller sidewalls. I don't want to upsize the current wheels to 265 because they already rub with the control arm on full lock ( wheel alignment hasn't fixed it and M&M folks say thats just how it is).

Any alternate suggestions would be appreciated.

I have upgraded to 16 inch alloys on my Thar with 275/70 R16 Maxxis AT 980 tyres. They have been great, no fouling with suspension components, no change in over size as compared to stock setup and also they have improved the ride quality. They also fill up the wheel wells pretty nice.

Here are some pictures for reference.

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by Mr.U

I have upgraded to 16 inch alloys on my Thar with 275/70 R16 Maxxis AT 980 tyres.e.

They look nice and it is great that they have helped improve the ride quality. Has there been any impact on fuel consumption?

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by yadavsid21

I am contemplating going for Avo and its usefulness (wrt claimed improved suspension) and robustness say when taken to Spiti/off road etc.

I am still recovering from prolapsed cervical and lumber disc so need better ride quality.

I am wondering, considering the above health points, ought you to even be driving around unnecessarily? Leave alone all the adventure stuff and that too, in a vehicle type and make, which is renowned for its hard ride and bumpiness.

However, for what it is worth, I am still finding AVO good and useful because my vehicle doesn't sway and pitch and nose dive and all. On tarmac the ride is smooth. But as Ive said earlier on these new white topped concrete roads every seam and imperfection translates itself into the cabin.

I would urge you to drive a new 2023 Thar and then another one which has AVO dampers installed. This will help with a direct back to back comparison.

I believe if one is buying a Thar now, it is no longer necessary to change to AVO. I say this because it seems clearly that Mahindra has been tuning and improving the suspension of the Thar to make for a much better ride than before. I have this impression after driving my friend Bibendum’s 2023 Feb Thar and comparing the ride in it to the ride in my 2021 Feb Thar when that had its stock suspension. I felt there was a significant positive difference in the ride of the 2023 Thar. Im not sure how old your Thar is, but if, like mine, it is a late 2020 or early 2021 and maybe up to mid 2022 model, then you may just want to go to Mahindra and buy the new suspension parts from them and swap out your old suspension. This is likely to be cheaper. But please do the ‘ride test’ as suggested above, before you do anything else.

[Turbolove]

Originally Posted by Mr.U

I have upgraded to 16 inch alloys on my Thar with 275/70 R16 Maxxis AT 980 tyres. They have been great, no fouling with suspension components, no change in over size as compared to stock setup and also they have improved the ride quality.

The wheels look really great. From the looks of it they have negative offset compared to the stock rims, I guess that would completely eliminate any possibilities of the tyre fouling.

Adding on the question above about fuel economy, how has the impact been on steering feedback due to the increased contact area ?

Also, when you say the ride quality is better, is it more supple over the smaller road imperfections ?

[yadavsid21]

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

I am wondering, considering the above health points, ought you to even be driving around unnecessarily? .

I moved to another car in house i.e. Seltos D AT, 6 months back and my wife is primarily using the Thar. We thought of selling it also at one point in time but its a heart over head decision and she kept it for herself.
Its Feb 2022 D AT CT. I was asking about AVO's reliability and ruggedness if any family member takes it to its natural habitat.

[Mr.U]

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

Has there been any impact on fuel consumption?

Thank you for the kind words.

There has been negligible difference in the efficiency. City traffic gets me around 11 to 11.5 kmpl and on the highway around 13.5 to 14 kmpl. If I drive a bit conservatively on the highway then I have achieved a bit north of 15.5 kms to the litre. My jeep is a Diesel AT and also the city efficiency is for Dehradun that does not have a lot of traffic as metros but has hills around.

Originally Posted by Turbolove

From the looks of it they have negative offset compared to the stock rims, I guess that would completely eliminate any possibilities of the tyre fouling.

Adding on the question above about fuel economy, how has the impact been on steering feedback due to the increased contact area ?

Also, when you say the ride quality is better, is it more supple over the smaller road imperfections ?

Thank you for the kind words.

Since the overall diameter of the alloy+tyre is almost the same as the stock setup, they do not even foul with the front bumper on full lock.

The steering wheel has definitely become heavy but I got used to it very quickly, that could also be due to the fact that I have driven a Hexa in the city for good amount of time. After the Thar whenever I drive our other car, a S-cross, the steering on that feels like a toy.

The ride is less bouncy now on the imperfections and higher side wall takes away the sharp bump from the pot holes. So overall an upgrade as compared to the stock setup.

[arunpools]

[quote=Dippy;5650155]Has anybody here tried to connect the Bluesense app to their Thar? Just wanted to know how to get it working. And if yes how good is it?

Mine gets connected every single time. My brother, who works on engine ECU development for Bosch, says that the Android operating system and the infotainment unit 'handshakes' are often bug ridden and unreliable in many implementations.

Trying another phone may work. My two cents.

[MithunSathianat]

Originally Posted by Turbolove

Now I've been considering downsizing to the AX variant wheels with 245/75r16 tyres which have taller sidewalls. I don't want to upsize the current wheels to 265 because they already rub with the control arm on full lock ( wheel alignment hasn't fixed it and M&M folks say thats just how it is).

If stock wheel is rubbing suspension components, do check the steering rack. Few Thar's including mine had this issue and had to replace steering rack.
245's will fit easily without any mods. But it might look bit skinny as you would loose .4 inches of width compared to stock.
265's will need some trimming of bumper. Bhpian karthikd21 has 245's in his Thar.

[sandeeprawat]

Originally Posted by sandeeprawat

I doubt if this is true. I booked Petrol CT 4x4 in Jun end but dealer is now communicating Dec as new delivery date. Earlier that had mentioned I may get in 2-3 months.

Not sure if they are selling these at a premium to customers who are willing to pay to get ahead in queue.

With delivery dates still falling somewhere in Nov-Dec, I wonder if I should wait for next year. Any issue with resale on nov-dec delivered vehicles? Though I intend to keep for a long time unless it becomes maintenance nightmare in future.

I'm sort of losing interest with kind of delay in delivery. Shankar's review of Jimny in other thread is not helping either and I love Maruti's fuss free ownership. Only edge Thar has over others SUVs in my books is convertible top.

[Nair.V8]

Ironman4x4 Nitrogas installed on Thar 4x4 Petrol AT

After having driven over 9,000kms (10 months since purchase) with the stock suspension, I got the Ironman Nitrogas suspension kit installed on Roxy. This kit consists of 4 dampers (front & rear) + front lower control arms. This setup gives a 1-inch lift at the front which eliminates the drooping front stance (as seen on all Thar’s with stock suspension) and levels out the vehicle. Not only does this lift enhance the road presence, but it also provides additional confidence when going off-road.

Purchase & installation was done at Mkraft (authorized entity for Mumbai), it comes with a 3year/60,000kms warranty. I have barely covered 100kms post installation and I’ve already started to appreciate the difference. This setup is noticeably sportier than stock, especially when driving at higher speed. Low speed ride is slightly stiff, but the damping seems to be much superior. This is my very first suspension upgrade experience, I’m excited to experience the new setup over various conditions.

[SA-G13B]

Originally Posted by Nair.V8

Ironman4x4 Nitrogas installed on Thar 4x4 Petrol AT



Purchase & installation was done at Mkraft (authorized entity for Mumbai), it comes with a 3year/60,000kms warranty.

Hi Nair.V8, congrats on the suspension upgrade! Could you share the pricing for procuring the parts & installation?

Also, any reason you didnt upgrade the steering damper to Ironman too?

[jimmzbond]

Originally Posted by sandeeprawat

With delivery dates still falling somewhere in Nov-Dec, I wonder if I should wait for next year. Any issue with resale on nov-dec delivered vehicles? Though I intend to keep for a long time unless it becomes maintenance nightmare in future.

I'm sort of losing interest with kind of delay in delivery. Shankar's review of Jimny in other thread is not helping either and I love Maruti's fuss free ownership. Only edge Thar has over others SUVs in my books is convertible top.

The delivery dates for all thar variants has hit 20 weeks now from earlier 8-10 weeks. Whereas its gone down significantly for XUV700. I checked with my dealer that petrol variants are not getting delivered. So, may be M&M has put more assembly lines for other vehicles. I suggest you to get contact details on M&M sales manager for your region and try to speak with him. Though they will be helpless most times - but worth taking a shot. I had booked Jimny and cancelled it - i suggest you to wait for Thar - you wont regret it. Even if its wait for few more months.

[yadavsid21]

Originally Posted by Nair.V8

Ironman4x4 Nitrogas installed on Thar 4x4 Petrol AT

I think this is first Thar with Ironman shocks on the group
Stiffer ride at low speed is a bummer. Look forward to your review ~1000 kms post installation

[Nair.V8]

Originally Posted by SA-G13B

Hi Nair.V8, congrats on the suspension upgrade! Could you share the pricing for procuring the parts & installation?

Also, any reason you didnt upgrade the steering damper to Ironman too?

Thanks! Purchase & installation was done at Mkraft itself, pricing was roughly around 1.25L. Didn't know that ironman steering dampers are available for the Thar, this is news to me. If you have details regarding this, please do share the link.

Originally Posted by yadavsid21

I think this is first Thar with Ironman shocks on the group
Stiffer ride at low speed is a bummer. Look forward to your review ~1000 kms post installation

The stiff low-speed ride should settle down over time, will update in due course.

[yadavsid21]

Originally Posted by Nair.V8

Didn't know that ironman steering dampers are available for the Thar, this is news to me.

I believe steering damper is required for solid front axel cars eg Jimny