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RWD pickup trucks are used regularly in snowed in areas like Minnesota with sandbags at the rear to weigh them down, for a better contact patch for the wheels with the road. Similarly, when weighed down with a full load, Indian RWD cars like the Scorpio, TUV and Innova too behave differently. With 7 people on-board, I drove through a proper slushy stretch in the Western ghats in 2019 in my TUV once - no problems. But in the absence of a full load, good wheel articulation, specific axle types, differentials...all of these things are needed to get RWD UVs out of tricky spots. I am told by Mahindra insiders that the MLD's cost was deemed a reason for not providing it as standard fitment. | |
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| ![]() This car launch and the subsequent discussions are quite thought provoking. Most of us on this forum are quite educated and technically or rather technologically sound (if such a word exists). We are dependent on gizmos and not machines. We enjoy our cars; we dont "use" them. This car appeals to those 15 to 20 thousand/month Eeco and Bolero buyers who have an entirely different set of expectations & needs from their cars. Many of the missing features or outdated designs in such cars don't matter to them at all. For example: 1. Electrically foldable OVRMs are not required if you always have a passenger who can open it for you. 2. Android auto is not needed if you have all the alleys and gullys of your village on the back of your hand. 3. Sunroof is a hindrance if you are going to load 10 days worth of luggage of 7 people on the roof. <image attached> What this car gives which no other car in this segment offers is: 1. Big car impression (perfect marriage gift for rich villagers. See the webseries panchayat to learn more) 2. Useful in its true sense. Load 10 people + 10 sacks of rice and it has the space, power & strength to accommodate this and more. 3. Inexpensive. For people who take loans to buy fertilizers and manure worth 10000 rupees, every rupee matters. IMO the main reason behind renaming the TUV as Bolero is to establish that rural connect, because Mahindra knows the pampered city folks will never buy it. Hence it will be unfair to compare this car with a Creta or a Nexon, because this machine can do so much productive work compared to its rivals, and that compels us to forgive all other shortcomings. |
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Mahindra owners are less in here as is and considering their customer base is 50% or more rural, I understand why. My father on his trip to rural Rajasthan saw how people were ferried in Boleros to some pilgrimage center, there were people all over it including the roof. My father was very impressed, surely it would have played in his mind during the next purchase. | |
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There was also some interview where M&M claimed more than 50% of their bookings were of the top end T8 variant (at that time T10 was not launched). The vehicle flopped due to issues like AMT, wheel spin, body roll and many other issues. They are trying to rectify it now with "Neo", and aiming at rural buyers by following Safari strategy employed by Tata. I also don't understand the strategy of removing roof rails, rural users love their roof rails. Not to mention taxi owners. Last edited by ramnaresh_2000 : 19th July 2021 at 22:36. | |
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| ![]() Those 2 jump seats at the rear really look so uncomfortable and are disastrous from a safety point of view. I know M & M is gunning for the rural customer who wants more seats, but such a major compromise is really uncalled for, especially in these times where safety is actually becoming a big differentiator. God forbid, in case of a rear end accident, can’t even imagine what those passengers would go through. |
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This was clearly a mistake and may be this is what they want to correct with the Bolero Neo I agree. I found it strange too. This is clearly a result of desperate cost reduction in order to price it as close as possible to the Bolero. But taxi owners will anyway install roof carriers; with or without roof rails. Innova is a good example of that. So it may not matter much. |
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And I can certainly relate - in my years spent in Jamshedpur, I've seen these bodyguards seated in open top jeeps at the rear. I somehow remember seeing thatched cots getting carried around in the jeeps; perhaps it's for the sarpanch/strongman to get off the jeep, sit down wherever required and to conduct an impromptu courtroom session ![]() In any case, to each his own. If an urban buyer doesn't have a use for the 3rd row seats, they can take them out. | |
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![]() Guard seat is another name for those seats. Access to third row without having to crawl through second row is important in such cases, therefore Scorpio \ Bolero etc still provides it, Sumo \ old Safari as well had it. An added utility is to provide 'lift' to known people in the rural environment\farm, they will be hesitant to sit in our normal seats, but jump seat is fine, its like a pickup bed. | |
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On further casual browsing I can see this website where you can check if the brand name is registered, https://business.indiafilings.com/tm...ch_text=taurus Well I am getting offtopic, so let me end it here. | |
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Team-BHP Support ![]() ![]() | ![]() Team, We drove the car on regular roads (preview was on a small test track) and have updated the review with a full driving report, as well as the list of pros & cons ![]() |
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| ![]() Isn't that a Panhard Bar/Rod and not a stabilizer bar Forgive me if I am being stupid ![]() |
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