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https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/india...ml#post5151283 (MG considering petrol ZS for India. Edit: MG Astor unveiled) I guess MG isn't too worried about the connotation of a Chinese (or British as they say ![]() | |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() Here is another good overview of the car shared by V3 cars. In this it is also mentioned that the 1.4L Turbo engine is a 4 cylinder engine, so should be smooth compared to other 3 pot competition cars. |
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I'm yet to see a similar update from another manufacturer, though everyone has connected tech these days. For example - Honda has Alexa listening in on you! Last edited by CrAzY dRiVeR : 20th September 2021 at 21:22. | ||||
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The onus of security lies with a classic beaten down Tier 2 IT Services company in India. Just waiting to be hacked and for the data to be leaked. Besides, like we've seen with other Chinese companies, data being stored in India doesn't mean anything. There are 100 ways in which you can access / call the data. Honda's tie-up with Alexa is more confidence inspiring. Amazon is pretty good with data security and privacy. Last edited by andafunda : 20th September 2021 at 21:35. | |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() I hadn't even heard about this car till a day or two ago and was ready to dismiss it out of hand but this review had me sit up and rub my eyes! Over the Seltos, who seems to be the default choice in this segment, this offers: - Torque convertor on the 140 BHP petrol instead of a potentially troubling DCT - All the bells and whistles that the Seltos GT line offers plus amazing ADAS features - Possibly 5* safety rating to the Kia's sorry 3 stars Am very happy with my GTX+ diesel Seltos which is coming up on a year of ownership soon but am glad that there is a good alternative now for others looking at the same segment. Am very skeptical about the red interiors but many who've seen it in the flesh report that it much more easy on the eyes that the pictures indicate. And there are options for black, beige etc. I understand. Good move by MG. Am watching this space with interest! |
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We should be worried about the lack of laws, lack of awareness and lack of overall ecosystem/framework. Looking at the whole scenario, Here MG is actually going one step ahed in transparently sharing who is handling it and how (to some extent in layman terms). They disclosed Azure, because it is understood that Microsoft has the best security for their cloud, better than Amazon AWS and Google cloud. Azure is used by most of the Fortune 500 MNCs. Is there a better alternative to store data on cloud? They disclosed LTI, because LTI is one of the most respected IT company in India for digitalization. Many Banking and insurance companies use LTI (including some major European/American companies) and some Indian banks as well. If you're worried about your conversation during a drive then you should be more worried about your insurance or banking services. Almost all the banking & insurance in India is shared among TCS, Infosys and LTI (and some share of Wipro & HCL). Yes, we should be worried about Privacy and Information security. But not about why MG is treating it to the best of available resources today. ![]() Last edited by dh.harshal : 20th September 2021 at 22:04. | |
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All I can say about any Chinese company (given the limitation of what my profession will allow me to say publicly) is that I wouldn’t be comfortable having personal conversations with that AI bot in the car. The rest is up to the buyers. They know best about their own privacy, security and personal information. After all there are people in India who willingly and happily spend 20 lacs on 2-star rated cars. | |
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![]() We trust the company which is known to have had the worst data security lapse in the Indian automotive scene - leaving customer data from their Connected Car app on an unsecured S3 bucket left open to public, the most basic step in data security while creating a bucket - since you are aware of cloud data security. Another basic - is that the data at rest wasn't encrypted, letting out even location information of the affected 50,000 odd users. In fact, Honda didn't have a clue for months that their data was even hacked by an ethical hacker who left them a warning note - till another security company hacked it and found the previous hacker's note and made the information public. They got away with it due to our lack of data protection laws. They would have been fined by the billions, had it been GDPR. Because MG made the information public, we know it is Microsoft and L&T handling the data. Honda's Connected Car Platform was (is?) managed by Minda iConnect Pvt Ltd. Now how would we compare that with the reputation of L&T? ![]() Last edited by CrAzY dRiVeR : 20th September 2021 at 22:59. | |
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If you want to trust MG or any Chinese company with your data security, please go ahead. With what I get to know owning to my vantage (and my view may be totally wrong and misguided), I will never trust any Chinese company with any sort of my personal data, much less live conversations. I'd rather not have the silly connected tech features on my car, from any manufacturer for that matter (thankfully the three cars in my immediate family don't have these features. Small mercies). There are more secure and better ways of tracking one's vehicle, anywhichways. Anyways since we are going off-topic, this is my last post on the issue. Last edited by andafunda : 20th September 2021 at 23:24. | |
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I had a question about the instrument cluster that is being offered on Astor, during my visit to the showroom, I went through the different options on MID but was not able to find any navigation option on it. I know Hectors MID shows it but wanted to know if Astor also gets it or not? The Koreans offer it on their MID and the implementation is simply superb, especially when there is a flyover coming up, it clearly shows which route to take, previously I have goofed up and taken the wrong route during my visits to Mumbai and ended up roaming around in the city. I also think that displaying navigation on MID avoids the situation where you keep asking your co passenger on where to turn or wether to take that flyover or not ![]() Uploading image for reference. Image sources : ownership reviews of forum members. |
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It made me seriously look for MG Motors Privacy policies. Please see below screenshots. ![]() ![]() ![]() Being India registered company as 'MG motors India Pvt Ltd', it has to follow the law of the land, i.e. Indian law. I also found their privacy statement and policy which says they are GDPR compliant too, however there's still disclaimer that owning to the nature of internet, we cannot hold MG accountable for the data. ![]() Again, I still see their policies, their ecosystem more transparent than most of the others. And their Chinese parent doesn't bother me. Also, I'm not sure what is our(Indians') tolerance on Privacy and information security. For me, in-car conversations are still okay if tampered with, but my financial data/ Aadhar etc. should never be compromised. | |
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