Team-BHP - 2023 Tata Safari Facelift Review

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Originally Posted by flameofforest (Post 5740853)

1. After s/w update the "Rear AC" option started working. How it works is - IF the AC is ON on 3rd row, then this is by default ON on the infotainment option. You can switch it OFF from here - works.
BUT - now with this option working - I found that the AC temperature doesnt go up/down rather it keeps it at very low of around 18C :Frustrati

In fact the issue is - switching it back to "ON" after you switch it off using the infotainment system. That doesn't work. At least this is still not working for me even after the Jan 2024 update.

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Originally Posted by flameofforest (Post 5740853)

3. Android Auto Music disconnects sometime when I switch the indicator on-off and something is on blind spot so alert comes. The map works but then music sound doesnt come like the audio is supressed with indicator alert. You have to switch off the car and turn it back on for it to work. I guess someone else also pointed this out.

Yes, the way out is to instantly press the change music source button (the bluetooth button on the steering control and move to Radio. Return back after 2 - 3 seconds and android music will be back.

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Originally Posted by flameofforest (Post 5740853)

5. Someone did mention - whenever the lane departure warning comes on, the dashboard display automatically switches to the "Driver Assist" menu, regardless of what screen I'm currently on (fuel efficiency, maps, etc.). Annoying.

I did. This started with Jan 2024 update and didn't face it with the previous version of the software. No proper testing at Tata, it seems.

Again, the erratic engine behaviour, looks like Safari has some mood swings at times. similarly, the Seat ventilation doesn't work, One of the speakers vibrating badly while in high bass - not sure what all we have to face.

I checked out the Safari Facelift today and it looks so dreamy.

Positives

Feels like you're at the Auto Expo, checking out a concept car. The shades on offer, drool-worthy lighting elements all around and head-turning looks just make you want to take out your cheque book.
The build quality and the crash test rating inspire confidence. I loved the door thud and weight.
All interior plastics were of decent quality except the power window switches. Those switches are the same story as Maruti, standard across the lineup.
All the tech on offer is refreshing to see in a Tata and so are the 2 huge screens. These screens are well-integrated and don't look out of place. Were slick to use as well.
The front row is quite comfortable with good adjustment options. Especially the electric boss mode for passenger seat takes the premium factor up a notch.
A great engine and gearbox pair on offer which suits the car very well. The ride feels planted & body roll is well controlled.

Negatives

The second row is just now good enough for the price paid. It is fine in width and can accommodate 3. However, to start with the legroom, it is not proportional to the size of the car. Especially when someone has to be seated in 3rd row.
The space management is really bad and you cannot sit in all 3 rows when all seats are adjusted to your comfort. This is something I can do with my XL6 so it was puzzling what went wrong in a much bigger car. With all 3 rows up the boot space is unusable. Again, my XL6 can accommodate 2 mid-size trolleys with all rows in place.
Moving on, the front seats & 2nd-row seats are placed too close to the floor and thus, allowing no possibility of sliding your feet under to extract more room.

The car has lots of positives but TATA ASC remains a BIG gamble. Tata is focussing on exclusive SCs for their EVs and I feel the same approach should be followed for premium ICE offerings. Tata should not shy away from opening company-owned ASCs. At the very least, they should involve themselves more with dealer-owned SCs to ensure good service.

All in all a great 5 seater and an all-rounder package. Once Tata sorts the aftersales, R&D and quality of components used(tech), it is game over for a few big players in the market.

However, for a family of 6, looking for an upgrade to XL6, the car fails miserably on the comfort front. You might consider me crazy for comparing the two cars, but this is just my humble opinion. Cheers!

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Originally Posted by DDISclatters (Post 5741912)

However, for a family of 6, looking for an upgrade to XL6, the car fails miserably on the comfort front. You might consider me crazy for comparing the two cars, but this is just my humble opinion. Cheers!

I can totally relate to your opinion when considering an upgrade from XL6. I had an Ertiga and while looking for an upgrade, all the big ones - Safari, XUV700, ScorpioN fail miserably in space management both in leg-room and boot space.
Finally went for Kia Carens which is great in this respect.

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Originally Posted by DDISclatters (Post 5741912)

I checked out the Safari Facelift today and it looks so dreamy.

However, for a family of 6, looking for an upgrade to XL6, the car fails miserably on the comfort front. You might consider me crazy for comparing the two cars, but this is just my humble opinion. Cheers!

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Originally Posted by Knightrider (Post 5741939)

The minivan body style is the most space efficient. That is why vehicles like Etriga, Carens and BRV are able to fit 3 usable rows of seating + a decent boot in a compact form factor. Also why Innova is the king of space, again, cabin as well as boot space. The SUV body styling means there has been a compromise. It is form over function.

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Originally Posted by Enigmatic (Post 5741102)

Separately, I noticed a small crack on the rear connected light bar :crying. At first I thought it was caused by the Tata ASS during the first service however upon reviewing the photos I took of the car before handing it over for the first service, I noticed that the crack was visible.

Best,
Enigmatic

I suspect it to be a stone hit. Any speeding car next to you on a bad road can cause such damage to your vehicle and other vehicles around you.*

One month ownership update of my Safari:

Enjoying the plush ride , specially speeding up when other cars are slowing down for broken patches and speed barkers

Have faced all issues already discussed here (Menu button not working, Speed stuck to 0, RPM meter stuck ,inconsistent DTE , Memory Seat error) but all have been solved with a forced restart of the infotainment system.

Im on a lower version of the SW, will ask for a upgrade when i go in for service this week.

Have clocked ~900KM on odo , mostly city run and couple of 50+KM stretches' in and around Bangalore

Have been thinking of dashcam lately , but wanted to understand from other Safari owners here if there is a way to push in a SD-card and get a recording like in a XUV700. Has any one heard if this is possible?
Trying to avoid extra cables and adding dashcam to an already full cluster in the front(camera mounted on top of the windshield +fasttag already clutters the area IMO)

Hello all,
I have my first service for the safari coming up. I have faced no issues till date (touch wood) and my purchase and driving experience has been all good.
I have read that the lane departure warning in the new software update causes an issue on the MID.

Can anyone please tell me the changes in the latest software update because I use navigation quite often and if it changes to driver attention every time I change a lane, it will be quite an issue. I won't get the software updated if I don't find value in the updates.

Regards,
Sphere

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Originally Posted by Thinking_Slow (Post 5725395)

Sharing a happy update:
Visited Trend automobiles today. Found about them from this thread.

It is a pretty decently equipped body shop in a locality called Garebhavipalya on hosur road in South Bangalore. Luckily it is only 15mins away from my place. The damages are shown in my previous post. They were able to fix it within 20 minutes!

To be honest, Trend Auto has been my go to place for any body work since 11-12 years. Aneesh and his team have done a wonderful job each time I've gone there. I had a similar situation when a fully loaded Luna rammed my front bumper of my Verna back in 2013. They did the job well.and matched the color as much as possible given that the car was already 2 years old.

Trend Auto a definite recommend.

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Originally Posted by Thinking_Slow (Post 5725395)

It is a pretty decently equipped body shop in a locality called Garebhavipalya on hosur road in South Bangalore. Luckily it is only 15mins away from my place. The damages are shown in my previous post. They were able to fix it within 20 minutes!

I monitored the entire process and it looked super simple. They removed some screws under the chrome bumper (shown in image below) and it came off easily. They used a heat gun to straighten the bumper and then nicely pushed it back. That area now looks like as if nothing had happened!

This made me realize that quality of Tata ASS (Kropex, Singasandra) is really poor. They wanted to replace the whole front bumper for a minor damage. This also made me realize that Tata Safari is a well built car and the bumper material is very high quality and repairable.

Trend automobiles earned a long-term customer today (hopefully I won't need them again though, LOL). I am going to have a great weekend!

Please ensure that the Radar Sensor for the ADAS system has not been hit. If it has been bent beyond its calibrated range it might cause it to behave unexpectedly. And we don't want any unexpected behaviours from an automated system that controls your vehicle.

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Originally Posted by Abhishek_Garg (Post 5725264)

Hi Friends,
I would get delivery of safari acc plus AT next week. I am planning to take 2yr extended warranty. Dealer is quoting 40K whereas somewhere on tata website I saw it as 33K.
Can anyone who has taken EW recently confirm?

Hello, please do take an EW for your Tata Safari, it does cover major parts after your standard warranty expires. I have an Altroz, the EW was 14000/- on the website, I paid close to 17000/- for the same including GST. The website price wasn't inclusive of GST, when I got it in 2020.

Also, the suspension link rods and wiper assembly are not included in EW.