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Originally Posted by Palio_2005 (Post 5914314)
Tata's cars are always a hit and a miss. This stops me from upgrading my Nexon to a Harrier.

I had recently visited the showroom (Garve Tata) in Baner. At first no one took notice of us for 15-20 minutes. Every salesperson was busy on their phone or chatting to someone.

I had to make some noise before someone attended to me half-heartedly. They pointed to the Harrier parked which was a demo piece. Wasn't clean outside or inside. Looking at the product I could see that this car would not age well.

When asked for a test drive they took all the details. When I sat in the car another guy came running saying there is no diesel in the vehicle. That's it. They said sorry test drive is not possible.

Considering the attitude I have totally dropped the idea of upgrading and wasting money on a Tata. I will probably book an XUV as the Mahindra team was super responsive. Car was clean and I was given a 20 km test drive.

Unless one stops purchasing Tata cars they will not learn

Hi,
I purchased my Harrier from Dev Motors on Symbiosis College Road in April 2024. Since then, I have completed three services with them, and my experience has been excellent—both during the purchase process and with their service quality.

I highly recommend giving them a try!
Cheers.

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Originally Posted by flameofforest (Post 5914266)

4. Even after the s/w update the radio reception was still bad so the technician mentioned that all of the tail-lights would need to be replaced so some TD needs to be raised. (Someone else also mentioned on the forum that this was done to their vehicle also so I too agreed). They raised TD as the part had to be obtained from the plant as they are vehicle specific.

Post-Service issue – 1
I came back home, parked the vehicle and then didn’t use it for next 2 days. 3rd day when I took it out I saw a big oil mark on the garage floor. I bent down to see and touched under the vehicle belly with my hand and it was all oil (the place where oil filter was kept). Scared, I ran to the service center to get it checked as I was about to go on a 1500kms trip to my home town during Christmas break.
The service center put the vehicle on the lift. Opened the under cover and checked. As per them there was no oil leakage from the filter, or the place from where oil is taken out for discharge. They cleaned it with dry cloth. As per them reasoning – when they took the oil during servicing some of it goes and gets stuck near the wheel and that’s from where it keeps dripping for some days to follow. For me those some days were good 10 days as every day I was seeing some spot on the garage.

Tail Light Change Update –
Got a call from service center that the replacement part has arrived and come after taking an appointment. So went there last Saturday. Again, waited for full time during the replacement. Took 5hrs (1hr lunch time 😊). They replaced all the 3 lights on the tail and voila the radio is working way-way better now !!! Don’t know how come taillight is linked to radio signal (may be Tata added 1 more receiver in the modified tail light for better reception).

Is this a solution recommended by your service advisor for poor radio reception? The service center i go to vehemently denied that this could be an issue with rear lighting. So, i am not sure how to proceed with this as the knowledge doesnt seem to be commonly shared by all service partners.

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Originally Posted by bhaskaracs (Post 5914963)
Is this a solution recommended by your service advisor for poor radio reception? The service center i go to vehemently denied that this could be an issue with rear lighting. So, i am not sure how to proceed with this as the knowledge doesnt seem to be commonly shared by all service partners.

Yes, the service center technician mentioned that he has been told to try to replace the rear tail-lamp lights for improving the radio reception. So he took the request to order the new set of lights.
Rather, after my fix, he is also suggesting other owners to do the same :) with more confidence !!!

One more issue I am facing is with AndroidAuto after the s/w upgrade - it is not able to judge properly day-vs-night so the map during the day also sometimes goes in dark-mode, and in the night it comes in light-mode.

Question - Does anybody knows how to control going-up/down ONLY the favorites radio channel using the steering wheel control. when I click it up/down - it goes to scan mode so it picks up radio stations which i dont want to listen to, and not saved in the favorites.
In my Hyundai it only shuffles between the favorites so a much more pleasing listening experience. <sorry for the showoff as radio has started working now :uncontrol>

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Originally Posted by Palio_2005 (Post 5914314)
Tata's cars are always a hit and a miss. This stops me from upgrading my Nexon to a Harrier.

I had recently visited the showroom (Garve Tata) in Baner. At first no one took notice of us for 15-20 minutes. Every salesperson was busy on their phone or chatting to someone.

I had to make some noise before someone attended to me half-heartedly. They pointed to the Harrier parked which was a demo piece. Wasn't clean outside or inside. Looking at the product I could see that this car would not age well.

When asked for a test drive they took all the details. When I sat in the car another guy came running saying there is no diesel in the vehicle. That's it. They said sorry test drive is not possible.

Considering the attitude I have totally dropped the idea of upgrading and wasting money on a Tata. I will probably book an XUV as the Mahindra team was super responsive. Car was clean and I was given a 20 km test drive.

Unless one stops purchasing Tata cars they will not learn

Similar experience at SP Automotive, Udaipur
I asked one of the sales two to show me Safari Adventure plus at the warehouse before the test drive. They agreed but the attendant was so impatient and would not let observe the car.

For test drive, I had to wait for 15 mins, then a sales rep came, took DL details. But nobody had the the keys !! Wasted another 30 mins.

They called me 4 times on my decision about the car. I Asked for quotations and price list every time but they never shared it.

So many people had already warned me about the dreaded after sales

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Originally Posted by flameofforest (Post 5914981)
Yes, the service center technician mentioned that he has been told to try to replace the rear tail-lamp lights for improving the radio reception. So he took the request to order the new set of lights.
Rather, after my fix, he is also suggesting other owners to do the same :) with more confidence !!!

One more issue I am facing is with AndroidAuto after the s/w upgrade - it is not able to judge properly day-vs-night so the map during the day also sometimes goes in dark-mode, and in the night it comes in light-mode.

Question - Does anybody knows how to control going-up/down ONLY the favorites radio channel using the steering wheel control. when I click it up/down - it goes to scan mode so it picks up radio stations which i dont want to listen to, and not saved in the favorites.
In my Hyundai it only shuffles between the favorites so a much more pleasing listening experience. <sorry for the showoff as radio has started working now :uncontrol>

this was helpful. Also you mentioned about the Tata logo missing when the headlights were fit again. Do you have a pic of what was actually missing. I didn't exactly pick what you said.

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Originally Posted by bhaskaracs (Post 5915096)
this was helpful. Also you mentioned about the Tata logo missing when the headlights were fit again. Do you have a pic of what was actually missing. I didn't exactly pick what you said.

I am referring to the blue high-lighted Tata Logo on the taillamp. So it seems the lights from the factory comes without this silver logo.
Also, if you see, I used to get sometimes half tail-light only illuminated so by replacing them even this issue is now resolved.

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Originally Posted by Baby Driver (Post 5914906)
Hi,
I purchased my Harrier from Dev Motors on Symbiosis College Road in April 2024. Since then, I have completed three services with them, and my experience has been excellent—both during the purchase process and with their service quality.

I highly recommend giving them a try!
Cheers.

Hi. I have purchased my Nexon EV from them. Sales experience was good. But it is salesman dependent. Will check it there

Good to know about your positive experience

Any feedback on the Adaptive Cruise Control?
Last weekend I did a road trip from Gurgaon-Jaipur-Gurgaon via the Delhi Mumbai Expressway and tried out the ACC for the first time.
While it worked fine when it was operational, i.e. auto brakes/slow down when there was a vehicle in front, auto re-accelerate when the road was clear, there were a couple of glitches that I felt otherwise.

The car refused to get into ACC mode a few times with the message "Adaptive Cruise Control conditions not met".

Quite a few times the ACC would get disconnected with a message around "camera/radar blockage" and the ACC symbol would go orange from green !

All this gave me less confidence on using the ACC. Are these software glitches? What if the car doesn't automatically slow down?

Anyways the best highways in India also don't let you enjoy ACC for long stretches given that lane driving is a rarity here !

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Originally Posted by Unhurried (Post 5917105)
The car refused to get into ACC mode a few times with the message "Adaptive Cruise Control conditions not met".

Quite a few times the ACC would get disconnected with a message around "camera/radar blockage" and the ACC symbol would go orange from green !

Is there something on your windshield that is blocking the radar at some angles? Please check where your Fastag was applied on your windshield. It could be the reason. We faced this when we sent out driver to get a Fastag for our Safari from a roadside vendor, who applied it on the WS blocking the radar. We had a to procure a new FT few days later, when we frequently saw the "ACC conditions not met" alert. Never experienced it after the FT was relocated.

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Originally Posted by bhaskaracs (Post 5917265)
Is there something on your windshield that is blocking the radar at some angles? Please check where your Fastag was applied on your windshield. It could be the reason. We faced this when we sent out driver to get a Fastag for our Safari from a roadside vendor, who applied it on the WS blocking the radar. We had a to procure a new FT few days later, when we frequently saw the "ACC conditions not met" alert. Never experienced it after the FT was relocated.


Thanks ! Will check this out. Possibly and hopefully this is the case. The sensors anyways keep throwing random errors such as TPMS Malfunction, Memory Seat failure so am hoping that this one is a false alarm.

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Originally Posted by flameofforest (Post 5914981)
One more issue I am facing is with AndroidAuto after the s/w upgrade - it is not able to judge properly day-vs-night so the map during the day also sometimes goes in dark-mode, and in the night it comes in light-mode.

I have a 2023 pre facelift that came with the same infotainment system that is now shipped today. The day night theme on map is influenced by auto headlamp sensor. Whenever I pass an underpass during the day,this happens with me

...and this happens only when your headlight stock is in auto mode. So, it's by design and not an issue. It's quite smart actually in my opinion. If you don't like it then change the position to manual.

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Originally Posted by r24x7 (Post 5918718)
I have a 2023 pre facelift that came with the same infotainment system that is now shipped today. The day night theme on map is influenced by auto headlamp sensor. Whenever I pass an underpass during the day,this happens with me

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Originally Posted by Rodie09 (Post 5918761)
...and this happens only when your headlight stock is in auto mode. So, it's by design and not an issue. It's quite smart actually in my opinion. If you don't like it then change the position to manual.

Thanks for responding. I am also aware that this behavior is linked to the headlight auto-switching on/off, but what my issue is that after the s/w update this dark-light theme switching is not consistent/seamless. It used to be more accurate before the s/w update.
I take the same route to office daily so very well know that the experience before the s/w update was more aligned to driving conditions, and now its a hit-n-miss.
Not a big issue, but sometimes it suddenly becomes dark even in bright sunlight so following the map for directions gets tough.

Also, a new issue I am facing is with steering wheel. It is now feeling a bit heavier for the last few days. Not sure, what could be the reason. Anyone that has faced this and know the probable route cause.

Possible that S/W update messed this up a bit. From what you tell it does sound abnormal as mine (2023 Pre facelift) works fine with the dark/light themes and the auto head lamps.

Couple of things you can look for:

1. Have you checked if it's just the screen which toggles or the headlamps also turn on in such scenarios?
2. Is this behavior observed even when laps are not on auto?

Screen going light in night time is pretty odd - the other way is normal though when passing through underpass, below flyovers etc. in day time.

One s/w related issue that I didn't have in beginning but got later on is that the reverse camera and sensors now remain active/beep longer than what it used to be when moved from R to D or R to P. Anyone facing this?

I own the Adventure+ AT variant, with no ADAS and it is due for the 3rd service, now I'm a bit hesitant to go for the software upgrade during the upcoming servicing.
I have adjusted to existing issues and am not inclined to get more new issues.
Can anyone suggest a reliable TASS in Hyderabad?


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