[cpbopanna]

Originally Posted by ashishy

Hasn't happened with my Thar even at the 4k RPM. It has done more than 40k kms.

I suspect fuel quality if black smoke is coming out of the exhaust. Try another pump and if the issue is still there then I would suggest consulting a good mechanic.

Hard acceleration (in a Diesel engine) generates black smoke, whether the engine is CRD or otherwise (more so in a non-CRD engine).

We normally don't notice it, that's all!
Please check in the rear view mirror after dusk when accelerating hard; when there are vehicles behind - the headlights of the vehicles following us highlight the smoke spewing from our exhausts, which otherwise is not clearly evident!

[akshay4587]

Originally Posted by ashishy

Hasn't happened with my Thar even at the 4k RPM. It has done more than 40k kms.

I suspect fuel quality if black smoke is coming out of the exhaust. Try another pump and if the issue is still there then I would suggest consulting a good mechanic.

That is because you didn't notice.
Drive your thar in choc a bloc traffic and do not exceed 2K RPM.
Then floor it in 2nd or 3rd gear, you will notice some smoke at 3K+ RPM, this is normal.

[ruchirtnt]

Has anybody tried smoked headlights in Thar?

[ruchirtnt]

Originally Posted by maheepgupta

Hi Guys

Just to give a quick update. Took delivery of a Black Thar yesterday

will post the details and more photos later on.. here is a quick one though.

Can you share your experience of Yokohama 265/70/16 tyres. Did it created any issue while driving or any torsion/ fender issue?

[desertfox]

Sure it should create issues. The scrub ratio tolerence in a Thar is very limited. What is wrong with the OE tyres ?

[akshay4587]

Originally Posted by ruchirtnt

Has anybody tried smoked headlights in Thar?

Why do you want to do that?
Stock lights look perfect on any color, smoked out lights would look odd on a thar.

[ruchirtnt]

Originally Posted by desertfox

Sure it should create issues. The scrub ratio tolerence in a Thar is very limited. What is wrong with the OE tyres ?

I want a upsize one for sure. Yokohama dealer told me that 275 did created some issue with one of customer and hence he offered 255. But I am more interested in a Broader one and hence requesting for some feedback

Originally Posted by akshay4587

Why do you want to do that?
Stock lights look perfect on any color, smoked out lights would look odd on a thar.

Thanks. But I just wanted to understand that is it possible through some arrangements.

[akshay4587]

Originally Posted by ruchirtnt

I want a upsize one for sure. Yokohama dealer told me that 275 did created some issue with one of customer and hence he offered 255. But I am more interested in a Broader one and hence requesting for some feedback



Thanks. But I just wanted to understand that is it possible through some arrangements.

Might be possible, if you install clear lens headlamps.

[Live To Jive]

There have been several posts in various Thar threads that have questioned the reliability of the Thar's IFS. In fact some have even said it's totally unsuitable for "Real" off-roading. How many of you have actually damaged the IFS or seen an IFS being damaged during any sort of off-roading?

[KkVaidya]

Originally Posted by ruchirtnt

I want a upsize one for sure. Yokohama dealer told me that 275 did created some issue with one of customer and hence he offered 255. But I am more interested in a Broader one and hence requesting for some feedback



Thanks. But I just wanted to understand that is it possible through some arrangements.

I would suggest you do not go broader then 255. And as Desert Fox quoted, the OE Bridgestone tyres are perfect for this vehicle. Infact, Behrambhai says he has done a lot of R&D before finalizing it. So maybe we should utilize his efforts.

[desertfox]

Originally Posted by Live To Jive

There have been several posts in various Thar threads that have questioned the reliability of the Thar's IFS. In fact some have even said it's totally unsuitable for "Real" off-roading. How many of you have actually damaged the IFS or seen an IFS being damaged during any sort of off-roading?

Many cases almost every weekend here in Gurgaon where about three off road events take place on most weekends during the winter months.

Normal offroading to enjoy with friends and family the vehicle does fine. The moment there is an attempt to try climbing hard mud banks and go through ponds and over rocks these problems occur.

[DHABHAR.BEHRAM]

Originally Posted by Live To Jive

There have been several posts in various Thar threads that have questioned the reliability of the Thar's IFS. In fact some have even said it's totally unsuitable for "Real" off-roading. How many of you have actually damaged the IFS or seen an IFS being damaged during any sort of off-roading?

Dear Live To Jive - IFS is the designed and engineered solution for this vehicle application. If the vehicle is driven sensibly in any off-road situation, absolutely nothing will happen.

Dear all - I very well know that the "IFS v/s non-IFS" debate for Thar CRDe application has been going on since 2008. People have converted Thar CRDe to non-IFS also. I have 100% authenticated information that the non-IFS front axles of Thar CRDe are breaking like matchsticks. The exact words are "breaking like matchsticks". This is the ground reality. I continue to have the highest respect for everybody's capabilities.

I once again humbly request that this debate must be put to rest. .

Best regards,

Behram Dhabhar

[Live To Jive]

Originally Posted by DHABHAR.BEHRAM

Dear Live To Jive - IFS is the designed and engineered solution for this vehicle application. If the vehicle is driven sensibly in any off-road situation, absolutely nothing will happen.

That's good news.

I once again humbly request that this debate must be put to rest.

Starting or re-starting a debate was not my intention. I was just looking for facts as I didn't beleive the IFS was that easy to break.

Originally Posted by desertfox

Many cases almost every weekend here in Gurgaon where about three off road events take place on most weekends during the winter months.

Normal offroading to enjoy with friends and family the vehicle does fine. The moment there is an attempt to try climbing hard mud banks and go through ponds and over rocks these problems occur.

Are the above mentioned activities considered "extreme off-roading" or "moderate/average off-roading"? I'm not an expert and that's why this question.

[DHABHAR.BEHRAM]

Originally Posted by 4x4addict

An ideal vehicle would have been the Gurkha platform with Thar CRDe power train, dash and steering.

Dear Tini - I do not agree to your quote above. Only one black color "ideal vehicle" ever existed (), it is also now diluted. The "ideal vehicle" lives on inside my brain, every single cell of it! Thar CRDe was only the first step to get the thing going, gain momentum and sniff the market. As the result is very positive, logically, the next step should have been to grow volumes by infusing fresh energy into the project, I would have made the "ideal vehicle" step in now and decimate everything forever! On 21 December 2014, 4 years have passed since the launch which happened on 21 December 2010, but we don't see it happening. Instead, we are seeing huge stickers on the body (what a waste of money), aftermarket seat covers and Mary Poppins ribbon cross on top of the driver's head!

Sad, but this was expected. I call it "systematic satyanaash"! When the thinking is not there, the product will not come.

You know everything so you will understand what I mean yaar!



Best regards,

Behram Dhabhar

[Parm]

Here is a trip down the memory lane with "Only one black color "ideal vehicle" ever existed"


Here is a reminder of "huge stickers on the body, aftermarket seat covers and Mary Poppins ribbon cross on top of the driver's head!"

Contrast is clearly visible in the Black vs the Orange and Red colours.