Bull bars, good or bad??

superman · 24th October 2006, 21:42

I am going in for the Scorpio realllll soon... and am kind of deciding on what accessories to "acquire"!!

Have always been fascinated by bull bars on the SUVs, great looks, adds to the macho image of the car, but is a great deterrent and is quite handy in Delhi, for the paint job I mean...

But how good and safe are they? I mean for the chasis. Was discussing this with a friend who just got a DICOR and he didnt go in for one as they apparently are bolted on to the chasis and it might actually dis-aligning(!?) in case of a collision. Well the least of the concerns I know, but still.

So what do you all say then?? Good, BAD??

hellspawn · 25th October 2006, 00:21

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Originally Posted by superman

Well the least of the concerns I know,

So what do you all say then?? Good, BAD??

why is it least of your concerns.you asked a question and answered it yourself.yes,it is bad for your vehicke as in a major collision,the force will be transferred to the chassis and it will get misaligned.also while driving you have to take into account the extra length that the bull bar adds to your car.otherwise you'll keep bumping into the cars in front of you.apart from a butch look it doesnt offer anything else.

gonecase_01 · 25th October 2006, 00:30

in case of a small accidents bull guard helps in protecting your front bumpers it also helps u in getting a better judgement from the front incase of a huge vehicle like a suv.
so i say go for it
anyways in case of a huge collision there will definitely be some alignement issues whether or not u put on the bull guard.

nitrous · 25th October 2006, 00:46

Its dangerous. If u knock down a pedestrian by accident,it'll injure him a lot seriously than standard bumpers.Hence, i removed the bull-bars from my sumo.
Use bull-bars only if it comes as OE.

rahul_intlad · 25th October 2006, 00:58

Seen taveras with something like a bull-bar for the rear bumper,it makes sense since in case of Most big vehicles [muvs/suvs] in traffic two wheelers some how manage to bang into you from behind.

dr fate · 25th October 2006, 01:09

but i think you can consider it a good option in case you want to fit a set if fog/clear lamps like hella 2000,

you can buy some thing like carry-boy fit it with above said fit it hours before your out-station or fog situations and remove it when in city,
since scorpio bumpers do not protrude too much outside this seems like a better idea,otherwise i agree with others.

suman · 25th October 2006, 08:59

Would be a no-no if your SUV had airbags as it apparently may interfere with the sensors & deployment of airbags (as I was reading in my Dicor manual) but since the Scorpio doesn't have airbags it should be OK from that angle.........but aesthetically? Dunno, haven't seen one, but I'd think it would spoil the beauty of the front airdams etc?

superman · 25th October 2006, 14:08

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Originally Posted by hellspawn

why is it least of your concerns.you asked a question and answered it yourself..

Well chasis alignment issues should be one of the lesser conerns in case of a mishap, GOD forbid

superman · 25th October 2006, 14:14

Does M&M provide bull bars as OE, the dealers do offer it as part of accessories though!!

Any idea??

2L8uLoose · 25th October 2006, 16:20

Bull bars on any vehicle is a whole load of BULL according to me...

Boom Shiva · 25th October 2006, 16:31

Bull bars are definitely bad. They only look "macho" and save you from small scratches, but in a big collision they will cause more harm than good to your car and to any pedestrians involved.

prabuddhadg · 25th October 2006, 18:23

A friend of mine was driving in bumper to bumper traffic in his 800. He did not stop in time and on the second gear hit the car in front. He was gleeful that his bull bar had taken all the force and the bumper was intact. Then it was pointed out that the bullbar was tilted, which meant it being solid, it was in fact the supports under the car that were twisted. His mechanic gave him a royal firing. He does not have a bull bar now.

superman · 25th October 2006, 18:42

I guess the macho image comes at a cost!! Well reading all this might just not go in for it right now..... atleast the steel ones.

One other thing, I saw a lot of Scorpios with a different types of bull bar these days, sides are steel but the middle part is all cladding color plastic.

Any idea where this one gets bolted?

gd1418 · 25th October 2006, 21:07

I dunno what you mean but the bull bar on my GLx is all steel and this front cladding of fibre is bolted on this. Guys I wnated to post an image of that. How do I do it?

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Originally Posted by superman

I guess the macho image comes at a cost!! Well reading all this might just not go in for it right now..... atleast the steel ones.

One other thing, I saw a lot of Scorpios with a different types of bull bar these days, sides are steel but the middle part is all cladding color plastic.

Any idea where this one gets bolted?

Insane Devil · 26th October 2006, 01:28

with the scorpio, i wud definately recommend the Bullbar! they look awesome, give the macho look, and an suv is totally incomplete without a bullbar in front of it. It will save u from minor accidents, but while major accidents, it will go kaput!

and the insurance guys are not goin to pay for it if u getting it done outside the showroom in most cases.

24th October 2006, 21:42	#1
superman Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 12 Thanked: 0 Times	Bull bars, good or bad?? I am going in for the Scorpio realllll soon... and am kind of deciding on what accessories to "acquire"!! Have always been fascinated by bull bars on the SUVs, great looks, adds to the macho image of the car, but is a great deterrent and is quite handy in Delhi, for the paint job I mean... But how good and safe are they? I mean for the chasis. Was discussing this with a friend who just got a DICOR and he didnt go in for one as they apparently are bolted on to the chasis and it might actually dis-aligning(!?) in case of a collision. Well the least of the concerns I know, but still. So what do you all say then?? Good, BAD??
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25th October 2006, 00:30	#3
gonecase_01 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 163 Thanked: Once	in case of a small accidents bull guard helps in protecting your front bumpers it also helps u in getting a better judgement from the front incase of a huge vehicle like a suv. so i say go for it anyways in case of a huge collision there will definitely be some alignement issues whether or not u put on the bull guard.
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25th October 2006, 00:46	#4
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Its dangerous. If u knock down a pedestrian by accident,it'll injure him a lot seriously than standard bumpers.Hence, i removed the bull-bars from my sumo. Use bull-bars only if it comes as OE.
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25th October 2006, 00:58	#5
rahul_intlad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 1,579 Thanked: 4 Times	Seen taveras with something like a bull-bar for the rear bumper,it makes sense since in case of Most big vehicles [muvs/suvs] in traffic two wheelers some how manage to bang into you from behind.
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25th October 2006, 01:09	#6
dr fate BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 78 Thanked: 6 Times	but i think you can consider it a good option in case you want to fit a set if fog/clear lamps like hella 2000, you can buy some thing like carry-boy fit it with above said fit it hours before your out-station or fog situations and remove it when in city, since scorpio bumpers do not protrude too much outside this seems like a better idea,otherwise i agree with others.
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25th October 2006, 08:59	#7
suman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 4,589 Thanked: 279 Times View My Garage	Would be a no-no if your SUV had airbags as it apparently may interfere with the sensors & deployment of airbags (as I was reading in my Dicor manual) but since the Scorpio doesn't have airbags it should be OK from that angle.........but aesthetically? Dunno, haven't seen one, but I'd think it would spoil the beauty of the front airdams etc?
	() Thanks

25th October 2006, 14:14	#9
superman Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 12 Thanked: 0 Times	Does M&M provide bull bars as OE, the dealers do offer it as part of accessories though!! Any idea??
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25th October 2006, 16:20	#10
2L8uLoose BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 628 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	Bull bars on any vehicle is a whole load of BULL according to me...
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25th October 2006, 16:31	#11
Boom Shiva BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,055 Thanked: 18 Times	Bull bars are definitely bad. They only look "macho" and save you from small scratches, but in a big collision they will cause more harm than good to your car and to any pedestrians involved.
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25th October 2006, 18:23	#12
prabuddhadg BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 812 Thanked: 81 Times View My Garage	A friend of mine was driving in bumper to bumper traffic in his 800. He did not stop in time and on the second gear hit the car in front. He was gleeful that his bull bar had taken all the force and the bumper was intact. Then it was pointed out that the bullbar was tilted, which meant it being solid, it was in fact the supports under the car that were twisted. His mechanic gave him a royal firing. He does not have a bull bar now.
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25th October 2006, 18:42	#13
superman Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 12 Thanked: 0 Times	I guess the macho image comes at a cost!! Well reading all this might just not go in for it right now..... atleast the steel ones. One other thing, I saw a lot of Scorpios with a different types of bull bar these days, sides are steel but the middle part is all cladding color plastic. Any idea where this one gets bolted?
	() Thanks

26th October 2006, 01:28	#15
Insane Devil BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 987 Thanked: 173 Times View My Garage	with the scorpio, i wud definately recommend the Bullbar! they look awesome, give the macho look, and an suv is totally incomplete without a bullbar in front of it. It will save u from minor accidents, but while major accidents, it will go kaput! and the insurance guys are not goin to pay for it if u getting it done outside the showroom in most cases.
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